Luke

[coryfly]

I have no problem saying Luke did very well last night and scarily enough we needed him to. The game and team we were up against is a team Id expect Luke to do well against.

The issue comes where the OP states "any more questions" as if a solid outing against a mediocre Davidson team should just make us all realize Luke Maye is a great player and should play a lot of minutes against top flight competition. Then you have others throwing Hansbroughs name around and well- you shouldnt be surprised with what you get in this thread.

I don't think that is what Mike meant at all. I think his point was simply Maye can contribute here when many have bashed him pretty good. I get that there a ton of people sitting on their couch who need to bash a bunch of guys after games for whatever reasons. People can't wait to point out what certain guys can't do. Some do it to everyone. Some just to certain players. It is all sort of in poor taste IMO.

 

[carolinablue34]

I see some of the minions are joining this thread...

Like yourself?

 

[coryfly]

I like my minions with onions . . . . . Sprinkled w/bacon of course.

I had a nice bacon sandwich with Miracle Whip for breakfast. It was glorious.

 

[UNC71-00]

I had a nice bacon sandwich with Miracle Whip for breakfast. It was glorious.

Dude

 

[carolinablue34]

The original post that started this squabble was "How much better can he get? The ceiling on an unathletic, undersized, worker-type player is pretty low." The answer is he CAN get pretty good. While I'm in no way comparing anybody with anybody Larry Bird was pretty slow, undersize, and unathletic. He was also one of the toughest SOB's to ever play and made himself into a Hall of Famer. So the answer to the original question is there really is no ceiling. Some of you folks need to learn to develop basic reading comprehension skills.

The hell am I supposed to think when you throw the name "Larry bird" out there without any context whatsoever? ****ing Christ

 

[BillyL]

The hell am I supposed to think when you throw the name "Larry bird" out there without any context whatsoever? ****ing Christ

Have some respect for our Lord and Savior on this board please.

 

[Tom79]

Some of "our" posters are lacking....

good post above cory.

 

[JuleZ '02 HEEL]

I had a nice bacon sandwich with Miracle Whip for breakfast. It was glorious.

Miracle Whip? Is that a new nickname for Grayson Allen?

Oh, and people actually eat that stuff?

 

[Butterbutt44]

I mean wouldnt it be easier to just say "I think Luke can get a lot better and has a higher ceiling than most believe" rather than throwing around Tyler Hansbrough and Larry damn Bird as your comparisons? Might give you a touch more credibility.

 

[carolinablue34]

Miracle Whip? Is that a new nickname for Grayson Allen?

Ha nice

 

[BillyL]

Miracle Whip? Is that a new nickname for Grayson Allen?

Oh, and people actually eat that stuff?

I think Miracle Whip is Cool Whip's little brother . . . I wouldn't eat either.

 

[coryfly]

I eat it on everything. It is the best stuff ever. I've cut back though. I used to go through over a jar a week. Figured that was unhealthy though.

 

[GoNtheDistance]

We can split hairs about the comparison or the intention to not make a comparison. Fact is, whether it was about athleticism and size, or about production, a comparison was made. And it was stupid. If that offends you I'm sorry but it's stupid in my opinion and looks like a few others feel the same. Comparing Maye and Hans on ANY level is mind boggling. As much as I like Mike, I also think the thread in itself was questionable and just asking for a bitch session. At this point in the season, I'd compare it to a thread being started as soon as Roy calls his first timeout and then asking "any questions"? One decent game against a good, not even really good or great mid major doesn't mean a thing. It's not like he had 30 and 10. He helped us win. But until he can show he belongs on the court against a upper level ACC team or top 25 program then it's falling on mostly deaf ears.

 

[GoNtheDistance]

And for the record, I'm not calling dean for president or anybody else stupid. I respect any and all opinions on the board. The comparison at any level between Maye and Hans is what is stupid and I think we can all agree on that at some level.

 

[JuleZ '02 HEEL]

I eat it on everything. It is the best stuff ever. I've cut back though. I used to go through over a jar a week. Figured that was unhealthy though.

Just lost my lunch.

 

[RP12]

How about a poor man's Joe Harris?

"Considered a three-star recruit by Rivals.com, Harris was listed as the No. 32 shooting guard and the No. 119 player in the nation in 2010.[5]"

 

[DeanFor President]

I mean wouldnt it be easier to just say "I think Luke can get a lot better and has a higher ceiling than most believe" rather than throwing around Tyler Hansbrough and Larry damn Bird as your comparisons? Might give you a touch more credibility.

That's what I said, if you had the comprehension skills to understand. I never said they had the SAME CEILING OR TALENT LEVEL. Damn, you twits are tedious.

 

[DeanFor President]

People of THR, comparing a low level role player to one of the best to ever play in a Tar Heel uniform makes this board look like a laughingstock. Can we please stop trying to over compensate and look at this with a degree of common sense?

You are the only one making anyone (yourself) look like a laughingstock. Get a damn tampon to stop that flow.

 

[gobblercalls]

I mean wouldnt it be easier to just say "I think Luke can get a lot better and has a higher ceiling than most believe" rather than throwing around Tyler Hansbrough and Larry damn Bird as your comparisons? Might give you a touch more credibility.

You still having problems understanding! I specifically said I was not comparing anybody to anybody but don't let facts get in the way.

 

[Butterbutt44]

That's what I said, if you had the comprehension skills to understand. I never said they had the SAME CEILING OR TALENT LEVEL. Damn, you twits are tedious.

hahah ok, Youre the one manipulating and using semantics to complicate your original statement. So youre using Tyler fricken Hansbrough, a first round draft pick and an all time UNC great to prove what exactly? That players sometimes exceed their ceiling or assumed potential? Except its false. Tyler was the number 5 recruit in the nation and scored 40 points as a freshman and ended up being a borderline lottery pick. He was considered "unathletic" in some scouting reports concerning the NBA but even still youre pointing that out in regards to Luke Maye who isnt even on the NBA radar and is unathletic at the mid major division one level. Its ridiculous.

Tyler was never an underdog and pretty much did exactly what everyone thought he would. Its still a horrible (I wont use the word comparison since thats getting your panties in a bunch) "observation".

 

[carolinablue34]

You are the only one making anyone (yourself) look like a laughingstock. Get a damn tampon to stop that flow.

You made the comparison not me. You said his ceiling was the same as Tyler Hansbrough which is undoubtedly false. Don't be surprised when people point out how ridiculous it is.

 

[alabamaheel]

I thought Luke was great last night. He is what he is. A guy that hustles, gonna give his best, and plays with a passion. Simple but true. Don't make it hard guys. Give him props. Problem I have with some is ya'll claiming it was just Davidson. Well Hello, they still have to play the games in front of them, and the fact was the starters were NOT getting it done!!! Please applaud him and others no matter their talent level. Problem I have is why does the "lower level" guys have to be the ones to play with those standards mentioned above, because that is "all they have to give"? A guy that hustles, gonna give his best, and plays with a passion. If everyone gave those simple things that can be given by anyone every time......WOW! LOOK OUT!

 

[DeanFor President]

Learn to read. The "observation" was simply that an unathletic undersized player could have a high ceiling and contribute. Based on the article on the front page of this site, you are the ones in the minority.

 

[coolwaterunc]

Personally, I think we rename the Dean E. Smith Center to the Luke D. Maye Center, but that's JMO. It's also a fact.

 

[alabamaheel]

Learn to read. The "observation" was simply that an unathletic undersized player could have a high ceiling and contribute. Based on the article on the front page of this site, you are the ones in the minority.

DFP was this to me?

 

[gobblercalls]

Not against the Davidsons of the world. However, I think anytime Luke plays against teams that are ultra athletic (Indiana, Kentucky, Duke) or not undersized on the interior he will need to learn how to be productive and understand his role. My question with Luke is what exactly will his role be as we face the type teams that we will have to beat to win the national championship.

The same Davidson team that was manhandling Meeks, Hicks, JJ, Williams, and Nate until Maye and company came in and changed the flow of the game!

 

[Butterbutt44]

Seems as our recruiting has devolved, so has the fans ability to recognized what a UNC caliber basketball player looks like. Its fine to have guys that can come off the bench and contribute and win games against the Davidsons of the world. But we really dont need to pretend its something more than what it is.

 

[alabamaheel]

Seems as our recruiting has devolved, so has the fans ability to recognized what a UNC caliber basketball player looks like. Its fine to have guys that can come off the bench and contribute and win games against the Davidsons of the world. But we really dont need to pretend its something more than what it is.

But we can appreciate them when they do excel right?

 

[Butterbutt44]

But we can appreciate them when they do excel right?

Obviously. I stated I thought Luke Played great last night. That doesnt mean Im declaring him the next Tyler Hansbrough or saying he can do this against top level competition consistently as that remains to be seen. Just like the other Night when Kenny went off against Radford, Its an encouraging sign but the great ones do it consistently, and the good ones at least do it often enough against good teams.

 

[alabamaheel]

Obviously. I stated I thought Luke Played great last night. That doesnt mean Im declaring him the next Tyler Hansbrough or saying he can do this against top level competition consistently as that remains to be seen. Just like the other Night when Kenny went off against Radford, Its an encouraging sign but the great ones do it consistently, and the good ones at least do it often enough against good teams.

I agree Butt, and nor do I compare him to others of that caliber.

 

[gunslingerdick]

My thoughts on everything going on in this thread:

1 - Luke Maye played really well last night.
2 - Luke Maye has never met a shot he didn't like.
3 - Luke Maye could have gone to Davidson and been a really big time player for them.
4 - Luke Maye is not in the same ballpark as Tyler Hansbrough in any way (athletically, size-wise, skill set, hair color, etc).
5 - Poasters on Radar do not like to use conventional wisdom (NTTAWWT)
6 - Poasters on Radar are far more optimistic than the OOTB clan.
7 - Radar poasters and OOTB poasters mix like oil and water.
8 - Miracle Whip is an abomination.

/thread

 

[carolinablue34]

Learn to read. The "observation" was simply that an unathletic undersized player could have a high ceiling and contribute. Based on the article on the front page of this site, you are the ones in the minority.

You said nothing of the sort.

 

[mikeirbyusa]

All I wanted was to see the kid get a well deserved pat on the back after the beating he took on here after the IU game. Sure didn't take long to throw him under the bus.

 

[Butterbutt44]

I do wonder if say Joel jame had a terrible game and posters called him out and then had a decent one would you feel the need to open a thread asking to praise him

 

[mikeirbyusa]

When they deserve a pat on the back you dern right I do! Go read AJ's piece on him on premi.

 

[alabamaheel]

How much better can he get? The ceiling on an unathletic, undersized, worker-type player is pretty low.

Dad13 are you being sarcastic? Honest question btw. I do somewhat understand what you mean by undersized and worker type, but to say unathletic is way off in my opinion of course. It takes pretty good ability to see the floor in any d1 game, may I add in a unc game. I admit i'm a homer fan but dang what percentage of players coming out of high school can do even what Luke can do. Few, very few percent, next level, even fewer.

 

[coryfly]

My thoughts on everything going on in this thread:

1 - Luke Maye played really well last night.
2 - Luke Maye has never met a shot he didn't like.
3 - Luke Maye could have gone to Davidson and been a really big time player for them.
4 - Luke Maye is not in the same ballpark as Tyler Hansbrough in any way (athletically, size-wise, skill set, hair color, etc).
5 - Poasters on Radar do not like to use conventional wisdom (NTTAWWT)
6 - Poasters on Radar are far more optimistic than the OOTB clan.
7 - Radar poasters and OOTB poasters mix like oil and water.
8 - Miracle Whip is an abomination.

/thread

You are a terrible person.

 

[coryfly]

I do wonder if say Joel jame had a terrible game and posters called him out and then had a decent one would you feel the need to open a thread asking to praise him

People praise him all the time. Like, constantly. He deserves it but surely you understand the difference.

 

[DeanFor President]

DFP was this to me?

No, not at all. It's to those that wish to play word games and like to denigrate the student athletes that play scholarship sports for our university.

 

[BillyL]

I don't know how to quote another poster on this board, but, I totally agree with poasts #s 66, 68, 71 & 73 . .