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Yeah, ok, YOU know what I meant more than I did.

I'm sorry that you're not very good at this.

I'm sorry I'm not a damn mind reader when you don't specify what you mean when you say shit like "Hansbrough is calling" in response to the opinion that Luke Maye is merely a hustle type role player.

No one is denying he had a good game last night, I'm very glad he did. It was needed at a crucial juncture, but to say this puts to bed my concerns about him going up against tougher competition or that he's the second coming of Hans? That's ludicrous.
 
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If this thread had started with an OP of:

"Great game by Maye last night- it was great to see him play so well when Carolina needed someone to step up"

instead of
"ENOUGH SAID" (bold was there by OP, not my emphasis)

It probably would have been nothing but nice things. However, when OP came out of the gate bowed up, inevitably chaos followed.
 
How much better can he get? The ceiling on an unathletic, undersized, worker-type player is pretty low.
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I'm sorry I'm not a damn mind reader when you don't specify what you mean when you say shit like "Hansbrough is calling" in response to the opinion that Luke Maye is merely a hustle type role player.

No one is denying he had a good game last night, I'm very glad he did. It was needed at a crucial juncture, but to say this puts to bed my concerns about him going up against tougher competition or that he's the second coming of Hans? That's ludicrous.

That's the problem, you DID try to act like a mind reader. You tried to conflate my implying that an unathletic and undersized player COULD have a high ceiling with stating the he was the equal of Hans in talent, when nothing in my post even remotely implied that.
Obviously he's going to struggle against supremely gifted and taller opponents. But he's not the scrub most make him out to be, and he puts forth more effort than some of those more "gifted" players.
 
Well weve already had Sterling Manley, the 250th ranked recruit in the 2017 class and a UNC signee, compared to antawn Jamison. Not only compared to him, but was labeled as an "Antawn Jamison clone". So Im pretty much to the point where anything said here doesnt surprise me.

You're going to beat that horse not just after it's dead, but after they put it 6 feet under
 
No, dean4 pres started off by saying "Hansbrough says hello" insinuating that Tyler is somehow in the same realm as Luke Maye. So even though he clarified after that he WAS still making the comparison even with the qualifications. Its still a really really dumb "comparison" or "observation" as the two are worlds apart talent wise .. Tyler was a first round draft pick, so using NBA draft net to prove some type of similarity to Luke is beyond absurd. Hes basically saying that Tyler overcame limitations to be a high level player. What he fails to mention is Tyler was the number 5 recruit in the country and was hardly considered unathletic by college standards, which Luke assuredly is.

If you cant see how unintelligent even mentioning the 2 in the same sentence regardless if it was a straight up "comparison" or not its probably because you are resorting to semantics.

Reading comprehension dude, you are brutal! Agree w/everything TFKAPS said in the post after yours. Out
 
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I have no problem saying Luke did very well last night and scarily enough we needed him to. The game and team we were up against is a team Id expect Luke to do well against.

The issue comes where the OP states "any more questions" as if a solid outing against a mediocre Davidson team should just make us all realize Luke Maye is a great player and should play a lot of minutes against top flight competition. Then you have others throwing Hansbroughs name around and well- you shouldnt be surprised with what you get in this thread.

Especially not when you can't comprehend that he wasn't comparing Luke & Hans as players, but their player type......then insist that he was comparing them. Ok, now I'm out.
 
So if he's not comparing them, what is the point of even bringing Hansbrough up? Because they have similar size and skin color? That's like me comparing Westbrook to Woods because of their "athleticism" and "fearlessness".

I swear, some of you would have a great career in PR & Damage Control. The levels of backtracking and defenses for this ridiculousness is well beyond the normal limits.
 
That's the problem, you DID try to act like a mind reader. You tried to conflate my implying that an unathletic and undersized player COULD have a high ceiling with stating the he was the equal of Hans in talent, when nothing in my post even remotely implied that.
Obviously he's going to struggle against supremely gifted and taller opponents. But he's not the scrub most make him out to be, and he puts forth more effort than some of those more "gifted" players.

Unathletic is a relative term. Hansbrough was called unathletic compared to NBA lottery draft picks. Maye would be called unathletic compared to starting 4s and 5s for top tier P5 teams. However Maye is more athletic than any 4 or 5 on Davidson.

You are the one who brought up Hansbrough with very little explanation. Seems a bit much to get aggressive with people who made a response that misunderstood your unstated point but which was otherwise completely in line.
 
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The original post that started this squabble was "How much better can he get? The ceiling on an unathletic, undersized, worker-type player is pretty low." The answer is he CAN get pretty good. While I'm in no way comparing anybody with anybody Larry Bird was pretty slow, undersize, and unathletic. He was also one of the toughest SOB's to ever play and made himself into a Hall of Famer. So the answer to the original question is there really is no ceiling. Some of you folks need to learn to develop basic reading comprehension skills.

Larry Bird was a 6'9" SF, that is in no way undersized.
 
So the 250th ranked player in the class being called a "Jamison clone" isnt even just a little ridiculous to you?

Jamison clone are your words, not his. He never said that, as he alluded to in an earlier post in this thread.
 
Whats the matter? Catch a glimpse of yourself in the mirror?

I said Luke played a great game.. there is no "narrative" here. If youre expecting me or others to say Luke is an amazing stretch four who will lead us to the promised land , then no. If Im proven wrong on that I will be the first one here to say Im wrong. But I still hold that he shouldnt be getting major burn against big time competition.
 
I said Luke played a great game.. there is no "narrative" here. If youre expecting me or others to say Luke is an amazing stretch four who will lead us to the promised land , then no. If Im proven wrong on that I will be the first one here to say Im wrong. But I still hold that he shouldnt be getting major burn against big time competition.
I'm not expecting a damned thing. I replied to Mike's post, not yours. But since you brought it up, I imagine Luke will continue to get significant minutes vs any and all competition, as he should. And yeah, you do have a narrative --- a pretty persistent one, in fact --- that anyone who doesn't come to UNC with big * ratings can't play against "big time competition".
 
I'm not expecting a damned thing. I replied to Mike's post, not yours. But since you brought it up, I imagine Luke will continue to get significant minutes vs any and all competition, as he should. And yeah, you do have a narrative --- a pretty persistent one, in fact --- that anyone who doesn't come to UNC with big * ratings can't play against "big time competition".

False. You responded to mine after I laughed at you. Now youre just talking out of your ass again making assumptions about what my "narrative" may or may not be. No, I think based on what Ive seen that Kenny can, and he wasnt highly rated, so there goes your make believe assumption.
 
I said Luke played a great game.. there is no "narrative" here. If youre expecting me or others to say Luke is an amazing stretch four who will lead us to the promised land , then no. If Im proven wrong on that I will be the first one here to say Im wrong. But I still hold that he shouldnt be getting major burn against big time competition.

This. Right here.
 
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False. You responded to mine after I laughed at you. Now youre just talking out of your ass again making assumptions about what my "narrative" may or may not be. No, I think based on what Ive seen that Kenny can, and he wasnt highly rated, so there goes your make believe assumption.
No assumptions here, just the ability to read.
And seriously? You just questioned Kenny's abilities a few days ago o_O...
...but hey, ok, glad to see you've come around.
#progress
 
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Yes, he did, and hes said it a bunch of times.. as well as insisting Manley will be a 5 star come next summer.

Negative, said some of his moves were Jamison like, and suggested he could become a 5*, never insisted, as you say. I'm going to agree to disagree on this, hope you can but I have my doubts.
 
No assumptions here, just the ability to read.
And seriously? You just questioned Kenny's abilities a few days ago o_O...
...but hey, ok, glad to see you've come around.
#progress

I did question wether Kenny would contribute meaningfully at this level based on last year. Hes proven to be serviceable. I do have the ability to maintain a flexible viewpoint.

Off topic but I just cant get used to grown men using hashtags before words. The dumbing down of America has indeed been a success.
 
Seems as our recruiting has devolved, so has the fans ability to recognized what a UNC caliber basketball player looks like. Its fine to have guys that can come off the bench and contribute and win games against the Davidsons of the world. But we really dont need to pretend its something more than what it is.
A UNC caliber player to me means the best player we can get. That may be a Harrison Barnes or it may be a Kenny Williams. Either way is fine by me. They wear the same uniform and as long as they are good citizens I'll take 'em. I'd prefer the ones that are ranked in the top 40 or so but that is not the determining factor as to whether or not I will show them the respect they deserve for representing UNC.
 
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A UNC caliber player to me means the best player we can get. That may be a Harrison Barnes or it may be a Kenny Williams. Either way is fine by me. They wear the same uniform and as long as they are good citizens I'll take 'em. I'd prefer the ones that are ranked in the top 40 or so but that is not the determining factor as to whether or not I will show them the respect they deserve for representing UNC.

Sure but let's not go insulting Hansbrough, one of the all time greats, by comparing him with a guy who would back up both Chris Brust and Kris Lang
 
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