Has entered the transfer portal and Carolina is involved. A 3 man rotation of Bacot,Manek and Garcia with McCoy mixed in would be ideal at the 4 and 5 positions.
Marquette PF/C Dawson Garcia
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Dawson Garcia makes this a top 5 team in my opinion, but I am not sure about recruiting over Manek unless Garcia is good with being the 1st big off the bench.
Personally, I think Garcia would be our BEST big if he were on our roster. That is without seeing the new and improved? Bacot
Starters:
Love
Walton
Garcia
Manek
Bacot
End of story.
Love
Walton
Garcia
Manek
Bacot
End of story.
Exactly. If either Manek or Garcia can play the three then there is your line up.
All hands need to be on deck trying to get Garcia.
He would be a helluva player to add to our roster, no doubt. I’d be surprised if there hasn’t been some contact between he and our staff.
I'm guessing you meant the 2022 class.
I think Garcia would be a one and done at UNC if he chose to come but thats just my guess.
If things go well for him I'm sure that is his preference. I also would think he is looking for a fit where he will used primarily as a shooter with size, as opposed to spending a large chunk of his time in or around the paint.
Happens to be what Hubert is looking to do, I am really not sure who would start, Mancek or Garcia, I suspect it would be Garcia but either along with Bacot would get near 30mins a game and leave McKoy and Styles to battle it out for what ever time is left over. All 3 of Mancek, Bacot, and Garcia would be gone after next season unless some serious injury did happen. When you think about it that would be an even deeper front court than we had last season to go along with a huge deep back court that now has experience.
Can you just imagine a starting lineup of Love, Walton, Dawson, Bacot with either Puff/Styles/Dunn/leaky as the starting wing? Then come back with RJ, Ant, Dunn, Mancek, and McKoy/Styles! You pull Dawson for a rest, bring in Mancek, then pull Bacot and go back to Dawson so Bacot gets a rest. With Dawson/Mancek in with Walton/RJ/Dunn we could be legit 3pt threats across 5 guys on the court, talk about spreading the court!
Man are you guys going to have a fit when leaky starts....
Does Hubert have a flux capacitor?
Yes he does and he is waiting for that lighting strike sir!
I doubt all 3 start.
With 80 minutes to divide among those 3 and McKoy, I assume McKoy will be the loser. But he will still get good PT sharing SF with Leaky.
The question will be, which of the 3 bigs comes off the bench. I don't any of them being happy coming off the bench.
Maybe it becomes a question of whether Hubert and his staff can sell Garcia on a Marvin Williams path to the NBA.
Another thing you can talk about is Final Four!
Oh man if this kid comes to Carolina!! I would LOVE that team !!! Just dreaming now but......
He would be a perfect addition. The problem of figuring out lineups and PT allotment would be a nice one to have!
TarHeelIllustrated - Dawson Garcia Enters Portal, Hears From UNC
Dawson Garcia is in the transfer portal and sources tell us that North Carolina and others have already reached out.
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i would like to see Garcia at UNC ... imo he doesnt come here
It can work with Garcia if he buys into the team concept and the exposure he gets on a NCAA title run. This team should be a #1 seed and a Final Four contender.
Your starters Love, Walton, Garcia, Manek, Bacot.
The Heels could lose all 5 starters after this season. Hear me out before you slaughter me on my logic on Walton.
You go 10 deep, with McKoy, RJ, Leaky, Puff and Harris off the bench.
Dunn and Styles with limited minutes first year.
If Walton has an "outstanding" statistical year and "improves" on his weaknesses, with the Heels making a push at the Final Four, he may not be back. He can make a living in the NBA as a shooting specialist off the bench (i.e. Wayne Ellington, Seth Curry). Heck, Seth Curry almost led Philadelphia to the NBA finals this year. There are many more examples of good "shooters" sticking in the NBA as role players.
Here is how the minutes looked like for the 2017 and 2005 NCAA Title teams:
2017: Meeks (24.3), Hicks (23.3) Bradley (14.6), Luke Maye (14.1)
2005: Sean May (26.8), Jawad Williams (24.0), Marvin Williams (22.2), Noel (16.9)
If you take the 2005 season as an example, Bacot gets 26-27 minutes a game. You sell Garcia on 24-25 minutes and Manek on 22-23 minutes a game.
2017
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2005
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Your starters Love, Walton, Garcia, Manek, Bacot.
The Heels could lose all 5 starters after this season. Hear me out before you slaughter me on my logic on Walton.
You go 10 deep, with McKoy, RJ, Leaky, Puff and Harris off the bench.
Dunn and Styles with limited minutes first year.
If Walton has an "outstanding" statistical year and "improves" on his weaknesses, with the Heels making a push at the Final Four, he may not be back. He can make a living in the NBA as a shooting specialist off the bench (i.e. Wayne Ellington, Seth Curry). Heck, Seth Curry almost led Philadelphia to the NBA finals this year. There are many more examples of good "shooters" sticking in the NBA as role players.
Here is how the minutes looked like for the 2017 and 2005 NCAA Title teams:
2017: Meeks (24.3), Hicks (23.3) Bradley (14.6), Luke Maye (14.1)
2005: Sean May (26.8), Jawad Williams (24.0), Marvin Williams (22.2), Noel (16.9)
If you take the 2005 season as an example, Bacot gets 26-27 minutes a game. You sell Garcia on 24-25 minutes and Manek on 22-23 minutes a game.
2017
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2005
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It can work with Garcia if he buys into the team concept and the exposure he gets on a NCAA title run. This team should be a #1 seed and a Final Four contender.
Your starters Love, Walton, Garcia, Manek, Bacot.
The Heels could lose all 5 starters after this season. Hear me out before you slaughter me on my logic on Walton.
You go 10 deep, with McKoy, RJ, Leaky, Puff and Harris off the bench.
Dunn and Styles with limited minutes first year.
If Walton has an "outstanding" statistical year and "improves" on his weaknesses, with the Heels making a push at the Final Four, he may not be back. He can make a living in the NBA as a shooting specialist off the bench (i.e. Wayne Ellington, Seth Curry). Heck, Seth Curry almost led Philadelphia to the NBA finals this year. There are many more examples of good "shooters" sticking in the NBA as role players.
Here is how the minutes looked like for the 2017 and 2005 NCAA Title teams:
2017: Meeks (24.3), Hicks (23.3) Bradley (14.6), Luke Maye (14.1)
2005: Sean May (26.8), Jawad Williams (24.0), Marvin Williams (22.2), Noel (16.9)
If you take the 2005 season as an example, Bacot gets 26-27 minutes a game. You sell Garcia on 24-25 minutes and Manek on 22-23 minutes a game.
2017
2016-17 UNC Tar Heels Men's Roster and Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
Check out the detailed 2016-17 UNC Tar Heels Roster and Stats for College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
2005
2004-05 UNC Tar Heels Men's Roster and Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
Check out the detailed 2004-05 UNC Tar Heels Roster and Stats for College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
I couldn't agree more with everything you said. Now it is up to the staff to sell that vision (and it IS a realistic possibility) to Garcia, then Manek.
If I remember correctly, Garcia really liked UNC and visa versa during his recruitment but Kessler snuck out of his parents basement and committed before Garcia. UNC no longer had a need for yet another big, and Garcia was left to go elsewhere.
Funny how things work out. Come to the hill young fella - it's where you wanted to be all along!
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If Garcia signs with UNC, match-ups may determine the amount of playing time in a given game for Manek and Garcia. I do think both would be starters.
I have no idea what Hubert is telling Garcia, but I hope he is selling winning and opportunity. You sell growing the kid’s game. You sell championships. You sell Carolina. If Garcia is worried about is starting, then it might not be the best fit.
If he’s leaving Marquette, he’s not necessarily leaving because he wants a better role. He will get 30-32 minutes a game there and be the "main man".
Whether it's Garcia or another player, Hubert is looking for another big for this season. To assume that Bacot will go the full year without missing games is a big risk. Perhaps a risk that Hubert is not willing to take. Efton Reid anybody?
I do think Manek will be a starter because of the spacing issue. If Hubert plays some zone, I can see Manek, Garcia and Bacot in the line-up at the same time. Perhaps Hubert is planning to play more zone defense if he signs Garcia.
Of course, since Hubert has no prior head coach experience we are doomed...
I know its not the same, but doesn't Hubert running and coaching the JV program count as experience of sorts???
Did Not Williams get his start that way???
Did Not Williams get his start that way???
Somebody should interview some of the JV players. Could be interesting. After all, we have over 3 months before we get a direct view of his coaching.
If interviewing someone who started with the JV team and then moved to the varsity squad, you could explore the differences (if any).
No! It doesn't count. It's not even close to coaching in high school. JV players try hard and listen to the Coach. I would rather my coach have high school and AAU experience to learn how to deal with attitudes
Close but not completely accurate. Both Roy and DES have said that JV coaching is a good incubator for HC responsibilities. High school coaches and AAU do not have to handle the same level of compliance issues, housing, travel, recruiting, adult issues, tutoring/grade monitoring, ego, skill + strength/conditioning development, etc. JV coaches are also recruiters for the Varsity and often run the same system/practice plan. They learn at the feet of the HC and sit on the bench for varsity games. They have access and are often included in the day to day operations of major college programs and this experience is valuable! AND I think both Roy and Hubs did/are doing well coming from that deep well!
(I was a High School bball coach and it ain't even close to the stuff a college coach has to manage! X/Os + practice are the only things that are even close!)
(I was a High School bball coach and it ain't even close to the stuff a college coach has to manage! X/Os + practice are the only things that are even close!)
You do realize that Hubert did not coach Chapel High schools JV team, that he in fact coached the UNC JV team, college team, college players? Any point you tried to make fell apart with that realization.
AAU experience? Really, is that what you want, UNC's program run like AAU programs? Do you have any feel at all of the things learned at the AAU level that a college coach must undo in order to get their players to play the team game at the college level? Way to many of the negative influences that whisper nonsense in to a kid's head happen at the AAU level and you want that to infect this UNC program?
Wonder how much money Caleb Love is going to make on his NIL deal? Garcia may be in complete agreement in a 6th man role playing 22-23 minutes a game if he can make 50-100K in NIL.
Would not be shocked at all if Cabeb Love pulled in 250K if the Heels reach the Final Four.
Would not be shocked at all if Cabeb Love pulled in 250K if the Heels reach the Final Four.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Duke and Ky have been exceeding the G-league pay roll numbers for years!
At this point, all I can pray for, all any college ball fan can is that the NCAA can be smart enough to make sure that any NIL deal can not have the program they either are playing for or are considering to have any involvement in that players NIL deals. I am fine with players getting an agent that negotiates NIL deals for them but that can have no, ZERO school involvement! I don't care how much a kid like Caleb Love makes in NIL deals nor do I think his team mates care, they would support him to get as much as he can. Problem is any agent that gets a NIL deal for a kid is going to want part of his NBA deal or at very least the NIL deals that come to him as a NBA player so they have every inducement to guide a kid away from the college game.
NIL should not be allowed to favor any 1 program over any other or guide a recruit to a particular program over any other program because a big time donor wants to steer a kid to any particular program. Example, a kid playing for Memphis should not be able to get a NIL deal from Fedex, a kid looking at Oregon should not get a Nike NIL deal while in college.
I have absolutely ZERO faith the NCAA as either willing or capable in putting in place a program that is fair for all involved at least until Mark Emmert is no longer associated with the NCAA in any capacity!
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