Y'all see this? I'm curious to everyone's reaction.
http://gawker.com/texas-high-school..._source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
http://gawker.com/texas-high-school..._source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Muslim student arrested for building a clock
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"When he tried to call his father, Mohamed said he was told he couldn’t speak to his parents until after the interrogation was over."
I've reached out to see if he needs legal representation.
I've reached out to see if he needs legal representation.
Hmm. Whole thing strikes me as odd.
Let's put it this way- what if I came from a neighborhood with a bunch of Confederate flags flying in front of a good number of houses. And some of those houses had nooses hanging from trees. And a few of my neighbors had even been arrested for some pretty graphic lynchings and murders. However my family and I, even though we are from this neighborhood, have never been accused of anything and are by all accounts good, law abiding citizens who have never been known to be racist in the slightest.
And let's say my passion was to sew. And I sewed a cool ghost costume- had a hood and everything. And then I show to some of my minority friends and they all freak out and accuse me of being in the KKK and had police investigate me for hate crimes. Who is in the wrong here?
Here's another anecdote- I have a great friend who is Indian but wears a goatee or a beard sometimes. He fully expects to be given the royal treatment every time he gets on a plane and it doesn't bother him in the slightest.
I mean, on the one hand, this kid did nothing wrong. On the other hand, how do his parents look at a clock that he built that looks like every clock ever attached to a bomb on all the TV shows and movies we have all seen and not say to the kid "perhaps you shouldn't take that to school?"
Let's put it this way- what if I came from a neighborhood with a bunch of Confederate flags flying in front of a good number of houses. And some of those houses had nooses hanging from trees. And a few of my neighbors had even been arrested for some pretty graphic lynchings and murders. However my family and I, even though we are from this neighborhood, have never been accused of anything and are by all accounts good, law abiding citizens who have never been known to be racist in the slightest.
And let's say my passion was to sew. And I sewed a cool ghost costume- had a hood and everything. And then I show to some of my minority friends and they all freak out and accuse me of being in the KKK and had police investigate me for hate crimes. Who is in the wrong here?
Here's another anecdote- I have a great friend who is Indian but wears a goatee or a beard sometimes. He fully expects to be given the royal treatment every time he gets on a plane and it doesn't bother him in the slightest.
I mean, on the one hand, this kid did nothing wrong. On the other hand, how do his parents look at a clock that he built that looks like every clock ever attached to a bomb on all the TV shows and movies we have all seen and not say to the kid "perhaps you shouldn't take that to school?"
Ok, but arrested?! If it's not a bomb, and he didn't say it was a bomb or act like it was a bomb, why in the hell was he arrested? It would still be ridiculous if they suspended him, but to march him out in handcuffs is outrageous.
I heard today that the idiot in DC has invited him to the White House!!!! Seriously!!!!! Just when I think that the idiot can not get any worse....he goes and becomes a bigger POS than ever.....
As far as the kid goes.....stupid to bring a clock that looks like that to school.....wasn't there though in making that decision....stupid to arrest the kid...but again was not there to see or hear what was being said!!!! Did I mention the POS in the White House!
As far as the kid goes.....stupid to bring a clock that looks like that to school.....wasn't there though in making that decision....stupid to arrest the kid...but again was not there to see or hear what was being said!!!! Did I mention the POS in the White House!
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/comm...ted-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece
How about an unbiased article that explains things a little more.......
How about an unbiased article that explains things a little more.......
Am I missing something here? Extending a WH invitation to the young man makes Obama a POS?
To be honest witchoo, and by all means call me a denier of civil liberties, but I'm OK limiting one person's liberties in exchange for keeping everyone safe. Sorry, that's the world we live in. 9/11 anniversary just came and went. You wanna protect the civil liberties of Muslims (again, sorry, but they're the ones who do terrorism these days. Yes, I'm aware whites have done is as well) at airports, fine, but don't cry to me when another attack happens.
This dovetails with political correctness. It isn't PC to single out an Arab-looking person. Is it to PC to mourn after said person commits an attack? Please advise.
ETA: And this comes for me....someone who is all about personal freedoms and liberties. But with respect to certain things, you have to sacrifice some of your freedoms because the lives of the many are potentially at risk. Pat me down all you want at the airport. I like being alive.
he got bonus points for getting suspended and arrested...might as well meet a rockstar too!
now holding out for the most epic ding dong ditch (the WH) of all time!!!!
now holding out for the most epic ding dong ditch (the WH) of all time!!!!
You mean you have to sacrifice other people's freedoms to protect the lives of many. You might feel differently if it was you getting singled out because of your race or religion.
And who's talking about airports? It was a 14-year-old kid at his school. Has a Muslim ever attacked a school in the U.S.? White kids do that, mostly.
Look, if he had brought it in as a joke-bomb, that might be different. But by all accounts, he brought it to show his teachers the cool thing he made. Sure, check to make sure it's not a bomb. But if it's not, and he never acted like it was (even jokingly), then why on earth would he be put in handcuffs and arrested? It's not about being PC. Wrongful arrest is against the law.
That's actually a good question and one which you are better suited to answer. Is it legally possible to communicate threats non-verbally? My assumption was yes, but after pondering it, I realize I don't actually know.
Denying certain people their civil liberties keeps us "safe?" Safe from what? I used to wonder HOW in the world could Germans have EVER allowed their government to single-out a group and vilify them and then deny them right after right and then exterminate them. But, when I see people have reactions like this, it becomes crystal clear.
Limiting "one person's" civil liberties keeps us all safe. Well... we have royally f*cked-up big time somewhere along the way, if that's true!
And when you read this story, it all makes sense.
This is exactly the reason that people like Trump. People are sick of having bullshit shoved in their faces and no one will call the bullshit what it is. Trump has proven he will do that. Unfortunately he goes on the attack far too often and with a force much greater than required.
I am so ****ing sick of the horseshit that gets passed around as the gospel truth. HIS- want another example of how Obama exacerbates and exploits racial situations? He's at it again here.
Everyone handled this situation correctly, with the exception of the first teacher who saw it and just told the kid not to show it to anyone else instead of confiscating and returning it after school with a lecture about what was wrong. But now this little kid is some kind of martyr because he is an Arab who took a working device that looked like a bomb to school. That is some class A bullshit.
You know what would happen to my WASP daughter if she took a device that looked like a bomb to school? She would be arrested. And everyone would say that she was stupid for doing so. But because this little nerd is an Arab, he has been discriminated against and deserves to be put on a pedestal by Obama.
**** that shit.
Of course Zuckerberg is a piece of shit. He started Facebook by stealing someone else's idea. He was a POS before any of us knew his name.
For Christ's sake- kids get arrested for taking toy guns to school. Yet little Ahmed makes a working clock in a box that looks like a bomb to everyone who sees it, but because people reacted like he brought a bomb to school, he's this week's Rosa Parks.
Jesus Christ we are a country of idiots and pussies.
Jesus Christ we are a country of idiots and pussies.
Wonder what would happen if my white ass tried to bring young Ahmed's clock onto a plane? Think I might get arrested? Maybe so and then I too can get invited to meet our beloved president.
****ing pathetic
****ing pathetic
Yeah, I agree... that's another extreme that's way off-balance.
Are there any images of what this "clock" looked like, or the clock itself?
Pretty stupid thing to do. That looks like an attempt to cry wolf, or draw suspicious attention.... from what I can tell, anyway. There's no call to treat this kid like a hero for all of this.
But, I don't want to profile an entire race or group over individuals doing dumb things. Nor do I wanna start regulating, or scaling-back on our Constitutional Liberties because some individuals do dumb things.
Who is profiling a group or a race? Oh, that's right- only the people who are saying that the kid is a victim of discrimination and racism.
No way in hell you would be arrested for bringing a clock on a plane unless you acted like it was a bomb. If you walked up and told them it was just a clock (like Ahmed did), they would inspect the hell out of it, and would probably detain you while they did. But once they determined it wasn't dangerous, you would board your plane with your clock. You would NOT be paraded out of the airport in handcuffs and taken to the police station like this kid was.
I don't think this kid's a hero, and I have no interest in any media firestorm about this. I just think it's stupid to handcuff and arrest a kid when they already knew the item wasn't dangerous. In the article, the police even say that "there’s no evidence to support the perception he intended to create alarm." The item wasn't dangerous. He didn't do it to try to scare anyone. Why was he arrested?
THN11 above was hinting at it. Lots of people profile Muslims, man You know that. I understand why, I just wish they could reign it in when it comes to the idea of "We have to give up liberty to be safe." Liberty is never worth giving up for the illusion of safety.
He was arrested because the police didn't know initially that there was no evidence. They erred on the side of caution.
And you are right, TSA would only detain me. Because TSA is trained to look for small bombs. Think the Irving PD has the same training?
Why in the f*&( would he invite this kid to the WH….why? The POS can't even recognize that we have a cluster f(&# going on in this Country with Cops getting killed……no mention of them…..yes this idiot of a POS and he has proven it time and time again! How anyone can possible support the trash in the WH is beyond me……give me one good reason why this kid should be invited to the WH…..
I guess I'll chime in now that I've gotten the natives all riled up.
I tend to agree with 71-00 here. But I might also acknowledge HIS's statement of me being ok sacrificing someone else's freedom. But as 71-00 stated, Muslims have to understand the current climate and that they may be under the microscope. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. If we had an overwhelming number of white, Christian males with Irish heritage wanting to do in the US and the principles on which we stand, I would accept the scrutiny that would come along with that. But that's not the case. It may be easy for me to say because it isn't the case,...but oh well.
The parents share a lot of the blame here so I better not hear any griping out of them. What kind of an idiot parent let's their son take anything like that to school without at least giving the teachers or administration the heads up? Post 9/11, clocks look like bombs. You can say it shouldn't be that way and we all wish it wasn't. But it is.
As far as releasing him when he told them it wasn't a bomb, call me crazy, but I doubt someone making bomb would admit that they are making a bomb. Do some of you really expect the police and admin to go, "well he said it wasn't a bomb so we should just take him at his word". They have to be skeptical.
And stop with the "poor boy and how this might impact him" crap. Big deal...he was taken out in handcuffs. I've been handcuffed several times and in front of peers. I got over it. In fact, with the attention this case has gotten, he's probably a celebrity now. I think he'll be ok...unless of course he doesn't want to be ok or the left gets in his ear and tells him not to be ok.
Lastly, the invite to the White House, at face value, is a nice gesture. But some of y'all are acting like this should be taken at face value. If Obama wasn't sending people to criminal's funerals and ignoring police officer's deaths and if he wasn't making absurd comparisons of jihadists to the crusades and if he wasn't attempting to tear down all of the morals and principles that this country has stood on since its inception, then I'd be ok with a White House visit for the kid. But it's just another example of Obama thumbing his nose at traditional America. And that's pissing people off. He doesn't miss an opportunity to shine the light on a minority that has supposedly been done wrong by assumed bigots in an effort to discriminate. He's a divider - plain and simple. And a prick. And I loathe him with pretty much every fiber of my being.
I tend to agree with 71-00 here. But I might also acknowledge HIS's statement of me being ok sacrificing someone else's freedom. But as 71-00 stated, Muslims have to understand the current climate and that they may be under the microscope. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. If we had an overwhelming number of white, Christian males with Irish heritage wanting to do in the US and the principles on which we stand, I would accept the scrutiny that would come along with that. But that's not the case. It may be easy for me to say because it isn't the case,...but oh well.
The parents share a lot of the blame here so I better not hear any griping out of them. What kind of an idiot parent let's their son take anything like that to school without at least giving the teachers or administration the heads up? Post 9/11, clocks look like bombs. You can say it shouldn't be that way and we all wish it wasn't. But it is.
As far as releasing him when he told them it wasn't a bomb, call me crazy, but I doubt someone making bomb would admit that they are making a bomb. Do some of you really expect the police and admin to go, "well he said it wasn't a bomb so we should just take him at his word". They have to be skeptical.
And stop with the "poor boy and how this might impact him" crap. Big deal...he was taken out in handcuffs. I've been handcuffed several times and in front of peers. I got over it. In fact, with the attention this case has gotten, he's probably a celebrity now. I think he'll be ok...unless of course he doesn't want to be ok or the left gets in his ear and tells him not to be ok.
Lastly, the invite to the White House, at face value, is a nice gesture. But some of y'all are acting like this should be taken at face value. If Obama wasn't sending people to criminal's funerals and ignoring police officer's deaths and if he wasn't making absurd comparisons of jihadists to the crusades and if he wasn't attempting to tear down all of the morals and principles that this country has stood on since its inception, then I'd be ok with a White House visit for the kid. But it's just another example of Obama thumbing his nose at traditional America. And that's pissing people off. He doesn't miss an opportunity to shine the light on a minority that has supposedly been done wrong by assumed bigots in an effort to discriminate. He's a divider - plain and simple. And a prick. And I loathe him with pretty much every fiber of my being.
What makes this whole ordeal sadly ironic is that we have educators and LEOs who don't possess the basic scientific knowledge to tell the difference between a clock and a working explosive device. It's pretty clear to an average Joe like me that there's no charge in that box.
Oh good lord. You should've let me know to cue up "America the Beautiful" before reading that last paragraph.
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