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I’m a Panthers fan, baby. Never liked the Jags. Just calling it like I see it.
 
a-Obvious call, not sure why one would justify not calling it. I mean, it is hard to argue that guy didn't have the angle to tackle him without the hold, which is the very holds they say they call.
b-Already admitted that.
There have been plenty of NFL games this season where the officiating was awful and deserved to be criticized. I've banged the drum on it in this thread during the season. This game wasn't one. I thought it was officiated very accurately. The Gronk helmet-to-helmet was correctly called. The one big DPI on the Patriots' drive right before half where they scored was correctly called. The blatant hold in the open field on Jaguars' tackle Robinson was called. Other than that, the refs let them play and only threw flags when needed. They also correctly identified some plays in real time that were tough to identify, and got them all right (the Jack fumble recovery, some of the sideline and endline catches, etc.)


Except for the call that ended the game. That isn’t really acceptable. You also are a Brady guy so are as biased as me just in the other direction. No way to justify freezing up on that play when it was that blatant.
 
I’m a Panthers fan, baby. Never liked the Jags. Just calling it like I see it.
As am I. I didn't see it that way. Complaining about holding is a bit much. It isn't just mindless drivel when folks say it goes on on every play. It really does.

Except for the call that ended the game. That isn’t really acceptable. You also are a Brady guy so are as biased as me just in the other direction. No way to justify freezing up on that play when it was that blatant.
Not sure I'm a "Brady guy." I think he is 110% clearly the best QB to ever play. But I don't live and die if he wins games or not. Unless UNC is involved (and honestly, even then), I'm pretty non-biased when I evaluate how a game is called.
 
As am I. I didn't see it that way. Complaining about holding is a bit much. It isn't just mindless drivel when folks say it goes on on every play. It really does.


Not sure I'm a "Brady guy." I think he is 110% clearly the best QB to ever play. But I don't live and die if he wins games or not. Unless UNC is involved (and honestly, even then), I'm pretty non-biased when I evaluate how a game is called.

It does go on every play. The NFL acknowledges that. They also have said it should be called when it impacts the play, as it did here. It wasn't. So the question is why did they miss it? It seems pretty consistent, just like in the first half of the Titans game last week when it was tied up and three or four calls go their way that even the announcers call out. It always seems to help one team.

Sorry about the Brady thing. I'm probably thinking of someone else.
 
That Jack fumble recovery should have never been blown dead either. May have been a TD. I can hate on the Pats all day. I'm not ashamed of it.
 
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As am I. I didn't see it that way. Complaining about holding is a bit much. It isn't just mindless drivel when folks say it goes on on every play. It really does.


Not sure I'm a "Brady guy." I think he is 110% clearly the best QB to ever play. But I don't live and die if he wins games or not. Unless UNC is involved (and honestly, even then), I'm pretty non-biased when I evaluate how a game is called.
Jags had the best pass rush of any team this year. To come out of that game with without any holding calls is absurd. Pats were mailing the Jags.

There were also 3 blatant missed PI calls that killed drives for the Jags.

It’s part of th genius of Belichek. He coaches his guys to do it knowing the refs aren’t going to call it on them.
 
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one of the more interesting subplots to this game is that the vikings have keenum, bridgewater, and bradford as qb’s.

2018 is gonna be an interesting year in free agency
 
but who do you go with out of those guys?

i think they’re all free agents...teddy might have one more year, though.
That’s a tough one if Keenum gets them to the SB. I think Bradford is done there; he’s always injured. Not sure about Bridgewater. I mean I thought he was ok, but not sure if he could run the Vikings offense any better than Keenum.
 
I am actually NOT going to watch the SB. The two teams are both repugnant. Philly has THE most obnoxious fans on planet earth and NE hell they are the Dookies of the NFL So sick of them and bellichek and Brady.. and the calls they get ....God it is like watching Punksont and Vader at UK east. I am just going to the movies or do something else. Waste of time to watch these two teams. I will bet it is one of the LOWEST rated SBs in a decade.
 
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Are you sure? Seemed like they called it one.

Yeah, of course. Because it is the Patriots. It happens all the time and is considered good defense. That was the only call against the Jags I thought was bad (though I would like to see the delay of game again as from my understand once the clock hits zero the ref looks to see if the ball is snapped and then throws the flag if it isn't). They didn't show a replay of that one though. Outside of that bad PI call the only issue I had was the holding NE does and gets away with, which was there for everyone to see on that one play.
 
Isn't the play supposed to be blown dead if a delay of game is called? I thought that was weird. I didn't hear any whistles or anything while the play was going on.
 
Isn't the play supposed to be blown dead if a delay of game is called? I thought that was weird. I didn't hear any whistles or anything while the play was going on.

Yes, it is. But, you know, they just decided to run the play out and then call it.
 
the news/videos coming out of philly is straight disgusting...low class people up there.
Saw a video of a couple fans wearing Vikings jerseys (attn: @UNC71-00) walking into the game. I don't know if they mouthed off prior to the camera rolling, but I doubt it since they were so far away. Anyway, these guys are just strolling to the game and Eagles fans are throwing full cans of beer at them. WTH is wrong with people?
 
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