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Yeah and I'm calling bullshit.

It's an insinuation and more often than not, an insult. Not legitimate fact. And you're smarter than that.
I guess I'm not smart enough, or not so biased, as to let my eyes deceive me.

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I think there are only 2 democrats that even participate on here- @blazers and @Heels Noir

I Googled "democrats groomers" and I don't see this tidal wave of people "grooming" children to be... whatever the hell it is you guys are terrified about. I mostly see references to some Michigan lawmaker... and saw this video:



I don't think Hillary Clinton's comments help anyone, or anything. But, I con't stop her from chiming-in on this stuff.

What exactly is the apocalyptic issue here?
at the present, the problem is your ridiculous hyperbole. You know, the usual problem.
 
Listen to blue long enough and you’ll hear a lot of things you never knew before. All of it is lies, of course, but he’ll never admit to it. In fact, question him and he’ll inform you that you’re a liar.
still butthurt over being outed as an actual liar I see. I guess you might just never get over being outed for what you are. I SHOWED you to be a liar. All you can do is lie about me being one. I don't think anyone is surprised that you would rather walk across the street in heavy traffic to tell a lie than to stay on the sidewalk and tell the truth.

BDS has you all shook up.
 
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....in all honesty, if you had a cute little daughter would you leave her alone with him for even a minute?
Grooming takes at least 3 minutes, so I think a single minute is fine as long as hunter's laptop isn't out in the open rotating thru nudie pics of hookers (and blow).
 
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where exactly is the line that one crosses into pedo territory? I draw it this side of him creeping on young girls and inappropriately touching them and kissing them and whispering in their ears as they squirm to escape his clutches. He definitely crossed it, and that's just what he has done publicly. If he couldn't resist that right out in the open, I have to ask anyone here....in all honesty, if you had a cute little daughter would you leave her alone with him for even a minute?
I always took pedophilia as actually reaching that point where in most states it would be considered a sexual assault or crime otherwise. But, you made me look. Not that Wiki is definitive in any way, it is a quick and dirty way to get some info about any given topic. Here are the first few lines:

"Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2] Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[4] A person must be at least 16 years old, and at least five years older than the prepubescent child, for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia.[4][5]"

In that context, it does reach the point where Joe could certainly be asked questions about his bizarre behavior. I won't hold my breath waiting on the NYT or WaPo to do so.
 
Again, when you’re own son nicknames you “Pedo Pete”… And judging from those pics with Hunter and his niece, he knows too much about pedophilia.
I am not ignoring or excusing this behavior as appropriate or "presidential" as the behavior police like to always attack a certain former president with, but I have to approach this from the perspective of Joe is our president and his influence is vast. Thus, just like I can do with with orangeman (versus those with TDS), I have to set aside the personal deficiencies and look at what he is doing from a policy standpoint and how he has directly influenced things with EO's, appointments, etc. For me, that is the THE issue with our current sitting president.
 
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In that context, it does reach the point where Joe could certainly be asked questions about his bizarre behavior. I won't hold my breath waiting on the NYT or WaPo to do so.

or the usuals on this board. It's been pointedly discussed here, plenty of clips and pictures have been posted of different incidents; but dare suggest the obvious, that Joe is a pedo, and it's WHAT? What do you mean?
 
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Damn! Too bad Trump isn’t still our President or he could order an atomic bomb to be dropped on Hurricane Ian and part of Florida’s Gulf Coast wouldn’t be about to get wiped out. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
 
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I am not ignoring or excusing this behavior as appropriate or "presidential" as the behavior police like to always attack a certain former president with, but I have to approach this from the perspective of Joe is our president and his influence is vast. Thus, just like I can do with with orangeman (versus those with TDS), I have to set aside the personal deficiencies and look at what he is doing from a policy standpoint and how he has directly influenced things with EO's, appointments, etc. For me, that is the THE issue with our current sitting president.
here's the thing. So many who are anti-Trump are that way on the basis of his character (as they perceive it), and not his policies or his effectiveness or much else regarding his job performance. As you suggest of your own outlook in that regard, I have defended him on the basis that his character flaws, WITHIN REASON, matter little to me relative to his job performance. To me though, this behavior of Joe's is not something that I can consider to be within reason. It's an issue to be considered all on its own. As president he's a terrible executive but just as important, he's a president creeping on children at a time when there seems to be a push to introduce or expose children to adult sexual behavior.
 
Damn! Too bad Trump isn’t still our President or he could order an atomic bomb to be dropped on Hurricane Ian and part of Florida’s Gulf Coast wouldn’t be about to get wiped out. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
Let's be honest and unequivocal about it, if Trump was still our President, you, a few others on this board, and most of the msm would be somehow blaming him for this hurricane. Thanks though for once again demonstrating your affliction of LTDS since even now as Fl is going to get hammered and Joe has been our President coming up on close to two years, you have to talk about the hurricane only as some perceived attack on orangeman.
 
Let's be honest and unequivocal about it, if Trump was still our President, you, a few others on this board, and most of the msm would be somehow blaming him for this hurricane.
yep, they did it before. Bush was responsible for hurricane Katrina and the reason so many were devastated was because he hated black people. People with at least enough intelligence to put their own shoes on, and with a liberal outlook, actually believed it.

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yep, they did it before. Bush was responsible for hurricane Katrina and the reason so many were devastated was because he hated black people. People with at least enough intelligence to put their own shoes on, and with a liberal outlook, actually believed it.

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We can only hope and pray trump might show up in fla to throw some paper towels to those affected
 
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We can only hope and pray trump might show up in fla to throw some paper towels to those affected
not the worst idea ever, but this is no time for symbolic gestures of a willingness to help. We need to get George Bush on the job to redirect this monster, assuming his powers over hurricanes didn't go out with his term in office.
 
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yep, they did it before. Bush was responsible for hurricane Katrina and the reason so many were devastated was because he hated black people. People with at least enough intelligence to put their own shoes on, and with a liberal outlook, actually believed it.

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Once again you are LYING, bluetard.

George Bush was never accused of being responsible for Hurricane Katrina. That’s absolutely ludicrous.

What he was responsible for was his delayed response to Hurricane Katrina, including remaining on vacation on his Texas ranch for two days after the hurricane struck. He had already been on vacation for 27 days prior to Katrina making landfall.

Furthermore, Bush declined to visit the devastated area in the aftermath of the storm. His supporters agreed that his slow reaction and the weak federal response undermined Bush's reputation for being an effective crisis manager or a decisive leader.
 
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Once again you are LYING, bluetard.

George Bush was never accused of being responsible for Hurricane Katrina. That’s absolutely ludicrous.

What he was responsible for was his delayed response to Hurricane Katrina, including remaining on vacation on his Texas ranch for two days after the hurricane struck. He had already been on vacation for 27 days prior to Katrina making landfall.

Furthermore, Bush declined to visit the devastated area in the aftermath of the storm. His supporters agreed that his slow reaction and the weak federal response undermined Bush's reputation for being an effective crisis manager and a decisive leader.
you're your usual idiot self. To begin with, there was no delayed response, the response came when the local authority finally requested it after having first rejected the offer of aid. The media and the dem character assassins took advantage of the opportunity to make some political hay out of a situation that was actually the fault of those local politicians.

And although my tongue-in-cheek comments about Bush being blamed for sending a hurricane to New Orleans weren't meant to be taken seriously, there actually were people at that time that blamed Bush for the hurricane itself. A dem politician believed that Guam might tip over and capsize if all the people went to one side of that island at the same time. Is it really a stretch that some dems might actually blame a hurricane on a president? Believe it, they did.

Weak sauce, dude. The reason that so many suffered under Katrina is that so many absolutely refused to heed the order to evacuate. Who are you going to blame that on? Never mind, the answer is a given.

ETA; you might as well stop trying to get over your butthurt by accusing me of lying, liar. That's just another lie. When a liar like you lies to get out of his other lies, he only digs his own lying hole deeper.
 
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you're your usual idiot self. To begin with, blah, blah, blah . . .
The American public is highly critical of President Bush’s handling of Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. Two-in-three Americans (67%) believe he could have done more to speed up relief efforts, while just 28% think he did all he could to get them going quickly. At the same time, Bush’s overall job approval rating has slipped to 40% and his disapproval rating has climbed to 52%, among the highest for his presidency. Uncharacteristically, the president’s ratings have slipped the most among his core constituents Republicans and conservatives.

The reason that so many suffered under Katrina is that so many absolutely refused to heed the order to evacuate. Who are you going to blame that on?
I’m certainly not so out of touch that I’ll blame the victims, that's for sure. Most of them didn’t have the resources to evacuate which is a common problem. Whether it is the lack of owning a vehicle or having the financial means to relocate to another city or state for an indefinite amount of time, not everyone is able to simply up and leave their home. Your simplistic comment shows how clueless you truly are.
 
The American public is highly critical of President Bush’s handling of Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. Two-in-three Americans (67%) believe he could have done more to speed up relief efforts, while just 28% think he did all he could to get them going quickly. At the same time, Bush’s overall job approval rating has slipped to 40% and his disapproval rating has climbed to 52%, among the highest for his presidency. Uncharacteristically, the president’s ratings have slipped the most among his core constituents Republicans and conservatives.


I’m certainly not so out of touch that I’ll blame the victims, that's for sure. Most of them didn’t have the resources to evacuate which is a common problem. Whether it is the lack of owning a vehicle or having the financial means to relocate to another city or state for an indefinite amount of time, not everyone is able to simply up and leave their home. Your simplistic comment shows how clueless you truly are.

Oh, 2/3rds of Americans believed he didn’t act quick enough? Well, that settles that. The American people know everything.

I’ve never seen someone work so hard on showing everyone else what a clown they are.
 
Oh, 2/3rds of Americans believed he didn’t act quick enough? Well, that settles that. The American people know everything.
Here’s another stat you’re probably in denial over even though it eats you up inside every day:

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Actually, Joe Biden won by more than 7 million votes, but what do you expect from FOX News reporting? At least they acknowledge Trump lost, which is more than the MAGAmorons here are willing to admit.
 
The American public is highly critical of President Bush’s handling of Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. Two-in-three Americans (67%) believe he could have done more to speed up relief efforts, while just 28% think he did all he could to get them going quickly. At the same time, Bush’s overall job approval rating has slipped to 40% and his disapproval rating has climbed to 52%, among the highest for his presidency. Uncharacteristically, the president’s ratings have slipped the most among his core constituents Republicans and conservatives.


I’m certainly not so out of touch that I’ll blame the victims, that's for sure. Most of them didn’t have the resources to evacuate which is a common problem. Whether it is the lack of owning a vehicle or having the financial means to relocate to another city or state for an indefinite amount of time, not everyone is able to simply up and leave their home. Your simplistic comment shows how clueless you truly are.
you're the worst kind of disingenuous blowhard there is. You're citing approval numbers instead of facts surrounding the event. Obviously, approval ratings and surveys hinge on media-generated perceptions, and they of course don't address the facts of the matter.

I'm not going to bother dancing to your deceptive drumbeat, but the details are easily found on the internet. The local authorities, the mayor of N.O. and the gov. of Louisiana both managed to bungle the legitimate initial response which falls on local government, while the federal government was doing what it was legally allowed to do. Perfectly? Of course not, perfection doesn't happen in real life, but that isn't what we are talking about. We're talking about George Bush having the blame for the disaster in N.O. placed on him when it was not his fault. He did nothing to hinder the federal response, but the federal response was hindered by the actions of the local authorities.



"I’m certainly not so out of touch that I’ll blame the victims, that's for sure. Most of them didn’t have the resources to evacuate which is a common problem. Whether it is the lack of owning a vehicle or having the financial means to relocate to another city or state for an indefinite amount of time, not everyone is able to simply up and leave their home. Your simplistic comment shows how clueless you truly are."

no, but you are dishonest enough to fail to point out that victims sometimes victimize themselves. There were plans in place for evacuation, they just weren't implemented properly by the local authorities. I am honest enough to not try to hide that fact in order to make a specious, one-sided argument as you so famously and routinely do. There were buses available for evacuation, and in some cases they were ignored and in other cases, the mayor of N.O. directed people to the Superdome instead of to the buses. I admit, George Bush was nowhere to be seen directing traffic or calling for evacuation with a bullhorn. Damn him for that, I guess.

Then there was the matter of security. The area had to be secured before other aid could commence. The locals bungled that while rejecting the federal request to take over, and when they finally acceded/made a proper request, the delay was blamed on Bush...even by those same local authorities, IINM. That's a fact, and Bush's approval rating has nothing to do with it.

here's an excerpt from wiki on the subject. I will not engage in more stupid back and forth with you on this, because you won't conduct any such back and forth honestly....

"New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin was also criticized for failing to implement his flood plan and for ordering residents to a shelter of last resort without any provisions for food, water, security, or sanitary conditions. Perhaps the most important criticism of Nagin is that he delayed his emergency evacuation order until less than a day before landfall, which led to hundreds of deaths of people who (by that time) could not find any way out of the city.[3] Adding to the criticism was the broadcast of school bus parking lots full of baby blue school buses, which Mayor Nagin refused to be used in evacuation. When asked why the buses were not used to assist evacuations instead of holing up in the Superdome, Nagin cited the lack of insurance liability and shortage of bus drivers.[4]

New Orleans has been classified as a non-regime city. Regimes involve governmental and non-governmental cooperation, a specific agenda, a recognized problem, and resources to deal with the problem. New Orleans only had a temporary coalition to deal with Hurricane Katrina, which led to the ineffective, temporary, and inefficient evacuation and provision of resources. Organizations such as the Red Cross attempted to form coalitions, but the various actors could not agree on a specific solution, and this failure to cooperate led to instability and misunderstanding between governmental and non-governmental actors"

^^^^^This references 'emergency evacuation'. That doesn't mean there weren't calls for evacuation other than and prior to this. There were, and the 'victims' chose to ignore them. Damn that Bush.
 
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you're the worst kind of disingenuous blowhard there is. You're citing approval numbers instead of facts surrounding the event. Obviously, approval ratings and surveys hinge on media-generated perceptions, and they of course don't address the facts of the matter.

I'm not going to bother dancing to your deceptive drumbeat, but the details are easily found on the internet. The local authorities, the mayor of N.O. and the gov. of Louisiana both managed to bungle the legitimate initial response which falls on local government, while the federal government was doing what it was legally allowed to do. Perfectly? Of course not, perfection doesn't happen in real life, but that isn't what we are talking about. We're talking about George Bush having the blame for the disaster in N.O. placed on him when it was not his fault. He did nothing to hinder the federal response, but the federal response was hindered by the actions of the local authorities.



"I’m certainly not so out of touch that I’ll blame the victims, that's for sure. Most of them didn’t have the resources to evacuate which is a common problem. Whether it is the lack of owning a vehicle or having the financial means to relocate to another city or state for an indefinite amount of time, not everyone is able to simply up and leave their home. Your simplistic comment shows how clueless you truly are."

no, but you are dishonest enough to fail to point out that victims sometimes victimize themselves. There were plans in place for evacuation, they just weren't implemented properly by the local authorities. I am honest enough to not try to hide that fact in order to make a specious, one-sided argument as you so famously and routinely do. There were buses available for evacuation, and in some cases they were ignored and in other cases, the mayor of N.O. directed people to the Superdome instead of to the buses. I admit, George Bush was nowhere to be seen directing traffic or calling for evacuation with a bullhorn. Damn him for that, I guess.

Then there was the matter of security. The area had to be secured before other aid could commence. The locals bungled that while rejecting the federal request to take over, and when they finally acceded/made a proper request, the delay was blamed on Bush...even by those same local authorities, IINM. That's a fact, and Bush's approval rating has nothing to do with it.

here's an excerpt from wiki on the subject. I will not engage in more stupid back and forth with you on this, because you won't conduct any such back and forth honestly....

"New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin was also criticized for failing to implement his flood plan and for ordering residents to a shelter of last resort without any provisions for food, water, security, or sanitary conditions. Perhaps the most important criticism of Nagin is that he delayed his emergency evacuation order until less than a day before landfall, which led to hundreds of deaths of people who (by that time) could not find any way out of the city.[3] Adding to the criticism was the broadcast of school bus parking lots full of baby blue school buses, which Mayor Nagin refused to be used in evacuation. When asked why the buses were not used to assist evacuations instead of holing up in the Superdome, Nagin cited the lack of insurance liability and shortage of bus drivers.[4]

New Orleans has been classified as a non-regime city. Regimes involve governmental and non-governmental cooperation, a specific agenda, a recognized problem, and resources to deal with the problem. New Orleans only had a temporary coalition to deal with Hurricane Katrina, which led to the ineffective, temporary, and inefficient evacuation and provision of resources. Organizations such as the Red Cross attempted to form coalitions, but the various actors could not agree on a specific solution, and this failure to cooperate led to instability and misunderstanding between governmental and non-governmental actors"

^^^^^This references 'emergency evacuation'. That doesn't mean there weren't calls for evacuation other than and prior to this. There were, and the 'victims' chose to ignore them. Damn that Bush.
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