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you might not be familiar with tactical nukes.
Oh, brother. So now you're a nuclear arms expert? A know-it-all on the matter of what you not-so-intelligently refer to as "the nuclear thing"?!?! What a pretentious dumbass!! You're as proficient at slinging poop as poopslinger himself.

You're a fool.
 
What sources are you skeptical of? The Ukrainians just won themselves a major victory. What's been lied about? Are you not happy that we're helping a people defend themselves from an aggressive, imperialistic power?
if you're skeptical of the media, as anyone with half a brain should be at this point, how do you know that the Ukrainians just won themselves a major victory? No environment is richer in propaganda than a war environment, unless it's a democrat election campaign, and the media can be counted on to accurately report what is known about as much as you can count on me to keep my opinions to myself.

There are a hundred variations to what you might be led to believe about Ukraine (or anything else), and instead of accepting any one thing at face value, my suggested approach is always to think in terms of probabilities of each of them. The most probable scenario to my mind is that Ukraine made a recent advancement, to which Russia will counter with redoubled effort. But that's in my mind only the most likely, and certainly not the only, possibility. Maybe the gains are exaggerated. Maybe the Russians purposely led the Ukrainians to overextend their resources. Etc., etc.
 
Oh, brother. So now you're a nuclear arms expert? A know-it-all on the matter of what you not-so-intelligently refer to as "the nuclear thing"?!?! What a pretentious dumbass!! You're as proficient at slinging poop as poopslinger himself.

You're a fool.
lol, your butthurt over being outed as a blatant liar is beyond obvious. You're too oblivious to get that your petty little spitballs project your deep insecurity.

I am starting to seriously wonder if you and @prlyles aren't one and the same poster.
 
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Aside from your insipid flat earth "knee slapper" attempt at "personal insult," please tell me when Trump ever stood up to Vladimir Putin when he was in office.
maybe you should first give an example of Trump being Putin's errand boy, you disingenuous jerk. Include substantiation please.
 
if you're skeptical of the media, as anyone with half a brain should be at this point, how do you know that the Ukrainians just won themselves a major victory? No environment is richer in propaganda than a war environment, unless it's a democrat election campaign, and the media can be counted on to accurately report what is known about as much as you can count on me to keep my opinions to myself.

There are a hundred variations to what you might be led to believe about Ukraine (or anything else), and instead of accepting any one thing at face value, my suggested approach is always to think in terms of probabilities of each of them. The most probable scenario to my mind is that Ukraine made a recent advancement, to which Russia will counter with redoubled effort. But that's in my mind only the most likely, and certainly not the only, possibility. Maybe the gains are exaggerated. Maybe the Russians purposely led the Ukrainians to overextend their resources. Etc., etc.

Skepticism is one thing, but these are all reports being verified by sources on the ground within the country itself. I mean come on, you actually don't believe Reuters or the BBC? I don't understand this mindset. The fog of war certainly casts a bit of uncertainty, the initial reports about Ukraine's offensive were being taken with a grain of salt even by outlets like the NYT. But now everyone's confirming they retook an area half the size of Wales.
 
you might not be familiar with tactical nukes. Also, the threat IINM is if Ukraine takes the action to Russian territory. That is, ACTUAL Russian territory. I might be mistaken about that now, but at one time that was correct.

Finally, you yourself said Putin was desperate. Wouldn't that qualify as an act of desperation?


Here's another funny situation. regarding the nuclear thing. Some lefty news media said that privately, the Biden admin has been warning Russia of the consequences of using nukes. See the irony? You can't make this numbnutted shit up. That's a test, BTW. If you don't see it, you're a knee-jerk liberal. If you do see it, you're still probably a knee-jerk liberal but there's a small chance that you are not.

Lol, if I don't see the irony, or rather if I don't see things the way you do, I'm just a knee jerk liberal? Maybe you're just an anti-Biden reactionary and engage in the exact same behavior as those you accuse of being anti-Trump.

My understanding is that the news about the administration warning Russia was purposefully leaked. It's not the first time either. They were declassifying information before the Russians invaded right up until the moment the bombardment started.
 
I really have no idea of what to do about Ukraine and I must admit that I am so skeptical of all news sources that I really have no idea of what to believe about what has happened and what is happening in Ukraine. They lie and spin the narrative so much on issues right here where we do have access to other sources, it makes it almost impossible to believe anything from that situation.

However, the one thing I do know is that you can always follow the $$$$. The defense industry was hating orangeman for getting us out of our last war. Now, they are making big, big bank once again. All those dollars of weapons being sent over there under the label of doing the right thing just happen to have the consequence of dollars being spent on the defense contractors. America - arming the world.
It's better to arm them and give them intelligence. Let them fight the fight because that's cheaper. I can assure you that the defense industry would be happier if we were actually fighting. And if we don't help Ukraine at all, we'll definitely be fighting Russia because they wouldn't stop.
 
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Lol, if I don't see the irony, or rather if I don't see things the way you do, I'm just a knee jerk liberal? Maybe you're just an anti-Biden reactionary and engage in the exact same behavior as those you accuse of being anti-Trump.

My understanding is that the news about the administration warning Russia was purposefully leaked. It's not the first time either. They were declassifying information before the Russians invaded right up until the moment the bombardment started.
so then, you did see it, but then....did you?. It was leaked as being discussed privately. If it was discussed privately, why was this supposedly private conversation made public by leaking it? I guess you see that irony, and my point was that if you didn't see the irony it was because you didn't want to....a key characteristic of the knee-jerk liberal. But then you add that last sentence which makes no sense at all so I have no idea what you took from this.

Obviously. news of this supposed discussion was leaked, in particularly moronic fashion, to show that Biden is ballsing up. But we can't know just how it went, or what might be being traded off, because the discussion was 'private'. Right. It's bullshit, and not just in @Heels Noir narrow and self-serving sense of it.
 
Only MAGAtards like yourself believe that nonsense. Putin didn't invade Ukraine while Trump was in office because he didn't need to since he had his orange BFF doing his dirty work for him. You know, like holding back military aid to Ukraine in an effort to win the 2020 election and continue on as Putin's errand boy, or trying to dismantle NATO, or obliging any other special request Putin made. As I said, Putin never had it so good.

You mean above where I actually share your posts, proving you said those things and that I wasn't lying? This isn't the first time I've BUSTED you using your own words, but each time you call me a liar rather than legitimately defending yourself or better yet, owning up to it. Lately, whenever I bother reading your posts that aren't addressed to me, I've noticed you do the same thing with others.

You need to work on your ignorantly limited vocabulary, fire pants.
You are really messed up. First, Trump offered and delivered lethal aid. Obama withheld it. So you are lying or just misinformed or both.

Trump was much tougher on Russia including with sanctions than the Obama people were.

However, he had the common sense to realize we should try to have good, diplomatic relations with Russia and avoid childish and absurd insults like calling Putin another Hitler.

Trump also was feared by Putin and others. He said what he would do if they got out of hand and they believed him. That's why we went 18 months without the Taliban daring to kill one single American soldier.
 
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I really have no idea of what to do about Ukraine and I must admit that I am so skeptical of all news sources that I really have no idea of what to believe about what has happened and what is happening in Ukraine. They lie and spin the narrative so much on issues right here where we do have access to other sources, it makes it almost impossible to believe anything from that situation.

However, the one thing I do know is that you can always follow the $$$$. The defense industry was hating orangeman for getting us out of our last war. Now, they are making big, big bank once again. All those dollars of weapons being sent over there under the label of doing the right thing just happen to have the consequence of dollars being spent on the defense contractors. America - arming the world.
What about the civilians, women and children even that will be bombed?

Hey, there's money in it? That's all the DC crowd has to know to want to start a war, it seems.
 
The DOJ and FBI really are like the Gestapo and lawless.

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The warrant charged Mark with violating the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, due to a claimed “ATTACK OF A PATIENT ESCORT.”

Ryan-Marie stated this charge comes from an incident that had already been thrown out of the District Court in Philadelphia but was somehow picked up by Merrick Garland’s Department of Justice.

On several occasions when Mark went to sidewalk counsel last year, he took his eldest son, who was only 12 at the time, she explained. For “weeks and weeks,” a “pro-abortion protester” would speak to the boy saying “crude … inappropriate and disgusting things,” such as “you’re dad’s a fag,” and other statements that were too vulgar for her to convey.

Repeatedly, Mark would tell this pro-abortion man that he did not have permission to speak to his son and please refrain from doing so. And “he kept doing it and kind of came into [the son’s] personal space” obscenely ridiculing his father. At this point, “Mark shoved him away from his child, and the guy fell back.”

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“He didn’t have any injuries or anything, but he tried to sue Mark,” and the case was thrown out of court in the early summer."

 
My problem with Trump has always been his utter lack of morality, inability to keep his mouth shut, and the precedent he sets by inflaming people's lesser instincts. And, of course, trying to stay in power when he lost an election but I'm not getting into that again. As far as the childish insults go, it's all the same. Trump, Biden, etc. I'm not losing sleep over it.



What sources are you skeptical of? The Ukrainians just won themselves a major victory. What's been lied about? Are you not happy that we're helping a people defend themselves from an aggressive, imperialistic power?
Except Russia could if it wants, totally reverse that victory by simply taking down their ower grid like we did with Serbia.
 
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Skepticism is one thing, but these are all reports being verified by sources on the ground within the country itself. I mean come on, you actually don't believe Reuters or the BBC? I don't understand this mindset. The fog of war certainly casts a bit of uncertainty, the initial reports about Ukraine's offensive were being taken with a grain of salt even by outlets like the NYT. But now everyone's confirming they retook an area half the size of Wales.
I already indicated that I accept this with a high degree of probability, so what's your point? I buy nothing 100% and anyone who does is just naive, even in an atmosphere of greater trust in the media.

During the Vietnam War, the Tet Offensive took place and it was a huge deal. Walter Cronkite, the newscaster that America trusted almost completely, came on one night and said we got our ass kicked and that the war was now officially unwinnable. He was full of shit, but the reality didn't become known for a long time. We took a heavy initial hit but we came back and thoroughly kicked that commie ass, such that militarily it was a great victory for us.....and if it hadn't been for the groundswell of defeatism in reaction to Cronkite's decision to present his opinion as news, there would have been no reason to start throwing in the towel. That POS turned public opinion and caused us to defeat ourselves from within. Don't take some things with a grain of salt, take it all with a grain of salt.

There are always unknown variables that you are silly to disregard. So they apparently retook a sizeable area. You said the war was over, and that's just laughable. They can lose the regained area as quickly as they retook it. What's reported, besides not being completely or at all trustworthy, is the tip of the iceberg; and we know what happens when you are guided by the tip of the iceberg. Your ship sinks and then they make an overrated movie about it.

All that being said, I'm hoping you're right.
 
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The DOJ and FBI really are like the Gestapo and lawless.

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The warrant charged Mark with violating the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, due to a claimed “ATTACK OF A PATIENT ESCORT.”

Ryan-Marie stated this charge comes from an incident that had already been thrown out of the District Court in Philadelphia but was somehow picked up by Merrick Garland’s Department of Justice.

On several occasions when Mark went to sidewalk counsel last year, he took his eldest son, who was only 12 at the time, she explained. For “weeks and weeks,” a “pro-abortion protester” would speak to the boy saying “crude … inappropriate and disgusting things,” such as “you’re dad’s a fag,” and other statements that were too vulgar for her to convey.

Repeatedly, Mark would tell this pro-abortion man that he did not have permission to speak to his son and please refrain from doing so. And “he kept doing it and kind of came into [the son’s] personal space” obscenely ridiculing his father. At this point, “Mark shoved him away from his child, and the guy fell back.”

“He didn’t have any injuries or anything, but he tried to sue Mark,” and the case was thrown out of court in the early summer."

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imagine that!
 
LifeSiteNews is a Canadian Catholic conservative to far-right anti-abortion advocacy website and news publication. LifeSiteNews has published misleading information and conspiracy theories, and in 2021, was banned from some social media platforms for spreading COVID-19 misinformation.


imagine that!
So you just repeat known liars who smear legit news. Not surprised. No facts on your side. Just smears.
 
Groomers. The woke folks are all-in on child/adult sex and are grooming the children for it.

" A young girl rubs her hand across the crotch area of the drag queen's mermaid costume, but the individual does not stop the child."

 
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What sources are you skeptical of?
All of them. Everyone has their audience and their agenda. Everyone.
the initial reports about Ukraine's offensive were being taken with a grain of salt even by outlets like the NYT.
That you would use the NYT as an example proves the point. They are no longer (if they ever were) the pinnacle of trustworthy neutrality about anything. See the entire Hunter Biden laptop fiasco as just one example of how their political agenda made them get something pretty major 100% wrong. I cannot say whether it was purposeful or just influenced by how they see and want things, but they still got it wrong.

Perhaps the best example I can give you is the N&O. Their readership and audience is surely predominated by those that support State. To survive in this day and age, not only must they have hardcopy readership, but they are looking for clicks. Do you think it is just coincidence that they incessantly issue FOIA requests to Carolina (and seemingly never report anything equivalent about State) and articles critical of happenings in Chapel Hill? I'm sure it's just their journalistic integrity that drives them because Carolina is the dirtiest school and sports program in the entire state. They must be because there is no other way to explain all that winning across the board for their sports programs.
 
this is flat out bullwhip-worthy, if it isn't some photoshop deal...and if it is, it's a damn good job and if it is, whoever put it out there needs a few lashes. It does not look like a photoshop job. Posters here accuse me of being angry when when in fact I'm grinning like a possum. But I'm not smiling now, I'm genuinely pissed.. Somebody needs a good ass-kicking and then some.
 
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this is flat out bullwhip-worthy, if it isn't some photoshop deal...and if it is, it's a damn good job and if it is, whoever put it out there needs a few lashes. It does not look like a photoshop job. Posters here accuse me of being angry when when in fact I'm grinning like a possum. But I'm not smiling now, I'm genuinely pissed.. Somebody needs a good ass-kicking and then some.
This is now mainstream democrat.
 
this is flat out bullwhip-worthy, if it isn't some photoshop deal...and if it is, it's a damn good job and if it is, whoever put it out there needs a few lashes. It does not look like a photoshop job. Posters here accuse me of being angry when when in fact I'm grinning like a possum. But I'm not smiling now, I'm genuinely pissed.. Somebody needs a good ass-kicking and then some.

If that clip footage is indeed real, and I don’t see why it isn’t, that drag queen should be arrested and rung up on charges.
 
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If that clip footage is indeed real, and I don’t see why it isn’t, that drag queen should be arrested and rung up on charges.
I don't necessarily disagree, but I don't think the drag queen is who encouraged those girls. I think an entire mindset needs its ass kicked.
 
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If that clip footage is indeed real, and I don’t see why it isn’t, that drag queen should be arrested and rung up on charges.
It's just par for the course. Time to wake up and though you detest the messenger, the dems are the groomer party, up and down. It's systemic and a core part of their new woke identity and agenda.
 
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I don't necessarily disagree, but I don't think the drag queen is who encouraged those girls. I think an entire mindset needs its ass kicked.

Well straight up, drag isn’t for kids. It’s for adults. Problem solved.

But this incident shouldn’t cast a pall on drag queens or trans people as a whole. There are pedophilic men, clowns, teachers, priests, etc. we don’t cast them all into a fiery pit or condemn them as a whole.
 
Well straight up, drag isn’t for kids. It’s for adults. Problem solved.

But this incident shouldn’t cast a pall on drag queens or trans people as a whole. There are pedophilic men, clowns, teachers, priests, etc. we don’t cast them all into a fiery pit or condemn them as a whole.
Ok, but drag is being explicitly marketed to kids, and kids are encouraged to participate in drag such as the 11 year old drag boy that performed sexually with grown men throwing money at them.

Ever been to or have seen clips of a Pride rally?

Are "trans-people" standing up to these things as a whole? Or not?

Are they condemning the woke teachers, the democrat party and all of those pushing this stuff on kids, or just complaining that people like me call them groomers for doing it? If you still vote democrat, you are voting for things like teaching young children to rub the genitals of a drag performer.
 
Ok, but drag is being explicitly marketed to kids, and kids are encouraged to participate in drag such as the 11 year old drag boy that performed sexually with grown men throwing money at them.

Ever been to or have seen clips of a Pride rally?

Are "trans-people" standing up to these things as a whole? Or not?

Are they condemning the woke teachers, the democrat party and all of those pushing this stuff on kids, or just complaining that people like me call them groomers for doing it? If you still vote democrat, you are voting for things like teaching young children to rub the genitals of a drag performer.

This is one incident. Not proof a democratic lead conspiracy of ‘grooming’. Chill out on the insanity coffee there bud.

I have never been to a pride parade. Sorry to disappoint you. I can speak with certainty that every trans person I know would condemn a child rubbing a drag queen’s junk.

If it were up to me, I’d classify drag shows as adult entertainment and make it illegal for anyone under 18 to go to one.
 
This is one incident. Not proof a democratic lead conspiracy of ‘grooming’. Chill out on the insanity coffee there bud.

I have never been to a pride parade. Sorry to disappoint you. I can speak with certainty that every trans person I know would condemn a child rubbing a drag queen’s junk.

If it were up to me, I’d classify drag shows as adult entertainment and make it illegal for anyone under 18 to go to one.
One incident? Guess you aren't paying attention.

Why are democrats so bent on arranging drag shows for children?

U mentioned pedophiles in other areas of life. Yep, including most likely in the WH at present. But I am not trying to focus on pedophiles or the new term, Minor Attracted People, soon to be added to the alphabet list. I get why they want to be normalized.

It's the non-pedos on a personal level that are pushing this across education and institutions all over America that deserve scrutiny, and it's very widespread. Why are they, the Left and the democrats doing that?
 
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Well straight up, drag isn’t for kids. It’s for adults. Problem solved.

But this incident shouldn’t cast a pall on drag queens or trans people as a whole. There are pedophilic men, clowns, teachers, priests, etc. we don’t cast them all into a fiery pit or condemn them as a whole.
problem NOT solved. You think saying 'drag isn't for kids' solves anything? This is what we keep trying to get through to you. We don't give a shit that there are people who for whatever reason want to be like whatever they want to be. I can't tell you not to be yourself because then I lose the right to require that you allow me to be MYself. That part isn't an issue. at all. No one is being thrown into a fiery pit because others like them behaved inappropriately.

But, for example, putting a drag queen show on normally viewed television is promoting drag queenism or whatever it's called, and the mindless sheep side of the equation just start accepting that as normal, and then they start exposing kids to it like why not. Then other mindless sheep start asking 'what's the big deal?'.

As much as I support your choices for yourself, I can't accept those choices being promulgated if they are something that might negatively affect a kid. I can't support efforts to find individual acceptance when those efforts become a desire to promote the condition itself. That drag queen needs his ass kicked but he isn't the problem. Whoever is encouraging or even just allowing those children to do what they are doing is the problem.
 
problem NOT solved. You think saying 'drag isn't for kids' solves anything? This is what we keep trying to get through to you. We don't give a shit that there are people who for whatever reason want to be like whatever they want to be. I can't tell you not to be yourself because then I lose the right to require that you allow me to be MYself. That part isn't an issue. at all. No one is being thrown into a fiery pit because others like them behaved inappropriately.

But, for example, putting a drag queen show on normally viewed television is promoting drag queenism or whatever it's called, and the mindless sheep side of the equation just start accepting that as normal, and then they start exposing kids to it like why not. Then other mindless sheep start asking 'what's the big deal?'.

As much as I support your choices for yourself, I can't accept those choices being promulgated if they are something that might negatively affect a kid. I can't support efforts to find individual acceptance when those efforts become a desire to promote the condition itself. That drag queen needs his ass kicked but he isn't the problem. Whoever is encouraging or even just allowing those children to do what they are doing is the problem.
Why do you care if a boy wants to dress-up like a girl??? Look at the outrageous costumes the RCC wears!!!
 
Why do you care if a boy wants to dress-up like a girl??? Look at the outrageous costumes the RCC wears!!!
are you a 'minor-attracted person'? I'm not and I think most people are not. Otherwise, I don't care how outrageous are the costumes worn at some community college.
 
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are you a 'minor-attracted person'? I'm not and I think most people are not. Otherwise, I don't care how outrageous are the costumes worn at some community college.
You guys swim around in this far-right conspiracy illusion bowl. Enjoy yourself.
 
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