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I've never embraced Putin. MAGA folks are just generally anti-war if the war isn't necessary and in our strategic interests, and this is especially so after we witnessed what happened in Iraq.

Bush and company seemed to have no plan for what to do after taking out Saddam. That incompetence level really struck a cord with a lot of conservatives and of course, Rand Paul type conservatives already had a beef with the war.

One the main things Trump ran on was getting us out of ME and other, unneeded wars, and for any sensible person, who rules the Donbass isn't worth WWIII.
That is the most direct and straight forward post I have read from you.
 
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DeSantis with the same exact look my daughter has when I tell her it's time for a bath.
 
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DeSantis with the same exact look my daughter has when I tell her it's time for a bath.
Lol. Although that's probably a more appropriate demeanor given the state of events that has brought them to that location than the old fart behind him chumming it up, giddy that he's seconds away from getting a nice sniff of that broad's hair.
 
To those that like to rag on other sources and cite the NYT as the authority and final say on things, there is the following. Now I know you'll jump on Mollie as the source here, but that doesn't mean she has the facts wrong in this instance. Literally one day passed from dumping on the story and the arrest of the guy accused.

 
To those that like to rag on other sources and cite the NYT as the authority and final say on things, there is the following. Now I know you'll jump on Mollie as the source here, but that doesn't mean she has the facts wrong in this instance. Literally one day passed from dumping on the story and the arrest of the guy accused.

Pravda on the Hudson should be a national laughingstock. It amazes me people uphold them as anything but sheer propaganda, at least when it comes to politics.

Maybe for dining reviews and stuff like that, it could be Ok.
 
That is the most direct and straight forward post I have read from you.
Consider this as well.

Putin enjoys immense public approval and support from the Russian people, far above any American politicians with the American public.

Even when his approval has dipped, and it has, 77% still approve of Putin. The idea if we got rid of Putin, that Russians would install someone better is therefore quite absurd. They like this kind of ruler even if there are many pro-western Russians who do not.

" That month, a still-high 77 percent of Russians said they approved of Putin, down from 83 percent in August."

 
I still just want somebody to give me a practical explanation for why Putin would blow up his own pipeline.
 
Lol. Although that's probably a more appropriate demeanor given the state of events that has brought them to that location than the old fart behind him chumming it up, giddy that he's seconds away from getting a nice sniff of that broad's hair.
Biden only got onto the plane cuz they told him they might swing a trip to disney.
 
Putin and practical don't really belong in the same sentence lately.
Still, how does it help him in the short or long run? I understand that everything we don't like or everything we want to dispute the truth on is russian disinformation or a russian conspiracy, I just don't get how anyone can say with a straight face that it helped Putin to sabotage his own pipeline, even from Putin's perspective of expanding his empire at all costs.
 
What happened to the 23% who disapproved of Putin?
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Bull-crap and more nonsense. Putin is more legitimately elected than Biden, and as bad as Putin can be, he has not done a tenth of what NATO and we have in destroying nations and interfering and rigging elections.

The fact of the matter is Russia has always, for centuries, had it's own Monroe doctrine relative to Ukraine and some other areas.

Is that wrong?

Maybe but we do the exact same thing and have routinely invaded and started wars in Latin America for over 100 years.
 
Still, how does it help him in the short or long run? I understand that everything we don't like or everything we want to dispute the truth on is russian disinformation or a russian conspiracy, I just don't get how anyone can say with a straight face that it helped Putin to sabotage his own pipeline, even from Putin's perspective of expanding his empire at all costs.
I mean, nothing he has done has helped Putin out. He's been cutting off his nose to spite his face this whole time. I'm guessing he just assumes he can get someone else to buy enough to replace his losses and Europe can't. That's all I got for you.
 
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Still, how does it help him in the short or long run? I understand that everything we don't like or everything we want to dispute the truth on is russian disinformation or a russian conspiracy, I just don't get how anyone can say with a straight face that it helped Putin to sabotage his own pipeline, even from Putin's perspective of expanding his empire at all costs.
Everyone knows we did it either with our own forces or by proxy. Biden promised we would.
 
I mean, nothing he has done has helped Putin out. He's been cutting off his nose to spite his face this whole time. I'm guessing he just assumes he can get someone else to buy enough to replace his losses and Europe can't. That's all I got for you.
Really? Um, no h didn't assume. He can and is, not just China but India, Japan and a whole host of other nations.

1. Biden said we are going to phase out fossil fuels for the US. Putin is sitting fat then unless Trump or someone like him gets back in.

2. If he was going to annex the Donbass, Putin knows he better do it while Biden is president.

3. Putin has succeeded in getting Nato and the West to destroy their own economies. I don't know if it was a result of brilliant strategy (doubt it) but regardless, Putin and Russia are kicking the West's and Nato's butts. Europe is the one that cut off their nose to spite their face because they don't have inexpensive replacements or just sufficient replacement for Russian natural sources.
 
I mean, nothing he has done has helped Putin out. He's been cutting off his nose to spite his face this whole time. I'm guessing he just assumes he can get someone else to buy enough to replace his losses and Europe can't. That's all I got for you.
At least that's a working theory. Thanks.
 
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1. Biden said we are going to phase out fossil fuels for the US. Putin is sitting fat then unless Trump or someone like him gets back in.
Biden also said he'd take out the pipeline if Putin invaded with troops and tanks. Seem pretty empty to just now say that we had nothing to do with it.
 
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At least that's a working theory. Thanks.
The problem with him doing that is the countries he's selling to are buying it at a significant discount and are running out of places to store it. That doesn't even take into account the fact that Europe has sped up it's moving away from Russian gas/oil. He's made so many mistakes in this war that it will be a case study in what not to do.
 
The problem with him doing that is the countries he's selling to are buying it at a significant discount and are running out of places to store it. That doesn't even take into account the fact that Europe has sped up it's moving away from Russian gas/oil. He's made so many mistakes in this war that it will be a case study in what not to do.
Not so much anymore. The discount was temporary, and the increase in oil prices were bigger than the discounts.

 
The problem with him doing that is the countries he's selling to are buying it at a significant discount and are running out of places to store it. That doesn't even take into account the fact that Europe has sped up it's moving away from Russian gas/oil. He's made so many mistakes in this war that it will be a case study in what not to do.
And the Saudis and OPEC just sided with Russia against the Soros administration.

 
[Biden] chumming it up, giddy that he's seconds away from getting a nice sniff of that broad's hair.
Even though she probably hasn’t had a shower in over a week and reaks as bad as her cracker husband? Maybe that’s the reason for DiSantis’ sour demeanor and why he’s keeping his distance.
 
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And the Saudis and OPEC just sided with Russia against the Soros administration.

Who's going to be the go-to scapegoat guy once George Soros is dead? I mean the guys 173 years old already.
 
Who's going to be the go-to scapegoat guy once George Soros is dead? I mean the guys 173 years old already.
Looks like Bill Gates is already stepping into the role. The New World Order typically has at least one billionaire fronting for them in public.
 
"So nothing about a giant international influence-peddling operation while his dad was VP?"

 
Looks like Bill Gates is already stepping into the role. The New World Order typically has at least one billionaire fronting for them in public.
That's good news! I'd hate to think you guys would be lacking some phantom boogie man to be afraid of in the future.
 
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That's good news! I'd hate to think you guys would be lacking some phantom boogie man to be afraid of in the future.
While there is no shortage of phantom boogie men or claims on either side of the spectrum to be afraid of depending on one's particular perspective, are you really suggesting that Soros' vast amount of wealth and where he has spent it has not had an impact on politics, elections, policies, etc.? I mean, we can debate all day whether something was good, bad, or indifferent, but do you not acknowledge that Soros spending has had influence?
 
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While there is no shortage of phantom boogie men or claims on either side of the spectrum to be afraid of depending on one's particular perspective, are you really suggesting that Soros' vast amount of wealth and where he has spent it has not had an impact on politics, elections, policies, etc.? I mean, we can debate all day whether something was good, bad, or indifferent, but do you not acknowledge that Soros spending has had influence?
I'm well aware that the United States is an oligarchy. It has been for quite a while. I mean like for most of its existence. Wealthy people influence the rest of the world. They always have, they always will. Picking out one or the other, and insisting that only those are pulling the levers for some evil Injustice, is just your average right wing q anon nutcase paranoia. That's one of the reasons why I laugh at people that act like Donald Trump is the working man's friend, or the average citizens friend. He's a f****** bloated oligarch that will screw over anybody to get his best interests taking care of
 
please, do tell us what it's like having a boogie man to be afraid of. LMAO.

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Well, the difference is, I don't credit Trump with being behind the scenes doing all these underhanded phantom tasks. He's just a moron that bullshited people really well and fell into the presidency and didn't know what the hell it was doing.
 
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