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NRA members who don't own assault rifles, like poopslinger, support their sales because they are paranoid that one day if these weapons are banned and unavailable to the general public it's just a matter of time before -- how do you folks say it -- the Dems come after all your guns. That's the fallacy you're living with.
Thanks for not answered my specific questions (call me shocked). The fallacy is yours. You don't know who does or doesn't own anything. What is this "assault rifle" to which you refer? Do you refuse or are you unable to define what you are discussing? But just as importantly, what is your false belief that "banning" these (undefined items) would accomplish?

Speaking of statistics, and cities aside, murders from firearms occur more often in red states than blue.
And murders occur more often in a blue led country (ours) than they do in a constitutional monarchy with an Emperor that has ceremonial authority (Japan). See how easy it is to play statistics? Your claim references a study done by the left leaning "think tank" known as Third Way. They refer to per capita rates and list states such a Mississippi and Louisiana as one and two. I haven't ever had a reason to dive into the breakdown, but it would be interesting to see a separation when one pulls out the cities led by D's versus the areas led my R's. PA went blue last election (assuming one believes the voting numbers, ha, ha), but it is decidedly red once you pull out Philly, Pissburg, and their suburbs. So, not surprisingly, it's not nearly as simple as you want to make it. The problem with any claim regarding states being red or blue is that they include the vast concentration of populations in blue cities. You're confusing two different criteria.
 
What kind of direct impact are you, or me, or anyone else here going to have on the Chinese communist party?

The way things are going, they don't have to do anything except for sit around and watch us implode from within.
That's the wrong question. It's what impact are they having or going to have on us. It's such a large issue that I'm not even gonna try. Someone else can attempt it for you.
 
What is this "assault rifle" to which you refer? Do you refuse or are you unable to define what you are discussing? But just as importantly, what is your false belief that "banning" these (undefined items) would accomplish?
The AR-style rifles, the XM-15, the M&P-15. You know, all those self-loading automatic weapons so cheap and easy to purchase that the mass shooters adore and buy when the voices inside their head tells them to. I'm not currently a gun owner but someday I might be. I like knowing I have that option so I strongly support the Second Amendment. But I won't be looking for a weapon that is capable of firing one or more shots per second.

To bring back something similar to the Federal Assault Weapons Ban with more stringent background checks would be a start but the gun owners see that as a threat.

And murders occur more often in a blue led country (ours) than they do in a constitutional monarchy with an Emperor that has ceremonial authority (Japan). See how easy it is to play statistics? . . . So, not surprisingly, it's not nearly as simple as you want to make it
You're the one who introduced statistics with your "blue cities-gun violence" remark. Now that I counter with the violence in red states you want to dismiss numbers, or blame the sources, or over complicate it. Maybe you and Marjorie Taylor Greene can find the resolution with God.
 
A Midnight Express plan is probably going to end badly.

Jim Cornette always had the correct plan for the Midnight Express.

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Hopefully, he can tell if it's raining or not. He's not wrong, but that doesn't qualify him for a job as a meteorologist.

"China", to him, is basically one person who doesn't like him. His perception is that simplistic.
is that one guy Xi Jinping? Might as well just go ahead and say China doesn't like us, because he pretty much speaks for everybody there, whether they want him to or not, and whether they like us or not. Simple as can be.
 
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Well, he is wrong because "China" doesn't "hate America" It's a fictional narrative based solely on fear. It's a custom-made ruse for exploiting the Grand Old Protestant party of rubes who are afraid of every immigrant or "foreign" entity that can be conjured-up.

Seems like the Definitely Embarrassing Morons are afraid of Native Americans. Thats the reason most of them wanted to rename the Redskins and Indians. Oddly, most Native Americans I know (many being in my family) don't give a shit about the names. Most of my cousins are Redskins fans. Not one of them have gotten rid of their Redskins items. It was just a bunch of white people bitching and crying about how bad it was.

BTW, I love Chris Cooley.
 
In a dozen what? Houses? Grocery stores? Space shuttles?

Correct the wording.
How many eggs are in a dozen eggs? In other words, how many of anything makes a dozen? It isn’t a trick question. I was lobbing softballs to bluetard to see just how incompetent he is after showing his utter lack of aptitude over something as simple as percentages
 
Seems like the Definitely Embarrassing Morons are afraid of Native Americans. Thats the reason most of them wanted to rename the Redskins and Indians. Oddly, most Native Americans I know (many being in my family) don't give a shit about the names. Most of my cousins are Redskins fans. Not one of them have gotten rid of their Redskins items. It was just a bunch of white people bitching and crying about how bad it was.

BTW, I love Chris Cooley.
I think they got heat from some tribal councils in Minnesota and New York State (Oneidas and a tribe around Minneapolis). And, yes, a lot of white people were offended, and insisted that all native tribes were offended, and therefore it must be changed.

The helmet logo the Redskins used from 1971-2019 was created by a Blackfoot tribal member and submitted by the entire tribal nation of Montana, I think it was. They sent it to the Washington Redskins organization and asked if they would use it instead of the Circle R they had been using. They felt it was a better representation of a "Redskin." I think it was based on the buffalo nickel flipside profile image. They chose the name Braves and then Redskins because the original starting lineup and coach they signed were all native tribe members.

I saw where the moderators asked Herschel Walker and Warnock about the Atlanta Braves name in the recent debate. They both kind of blew it off. But, it will eventually be changed and so will the Chiefs in KC. The Seminoles will get banished eventually as well.
 
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In today's episode of "everything Trump touches dies": his billionaire friend Tom.

-In testimony on Monday, the billionaire reportedly said Trump was "disastrous" for his business.

-He said that it would be "unquestionably" better if he hadn't supported Trump, per multiple outlets.

 
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In today's episode of "everything Trump touches dies": his billionaire friend Tom.

-In testimony on Monday, the billionaire reportedly said Trump was "disastrous" for his business.

-He said that it would be "unquestionably" better if he hadn't supported Trump, per multiple outlets.


My 401K said I was "unquestionably" better if so many fukcsticks hadnt voted for a pedophile dixiecrat with dementia.
 
In today's episode of "everything Trump touches dies": his billionaire friend Tom.

-In testimony on Monday, the billionaire reportedly said Trump was "disastrous" for his business.

-He said that it would be "unquestionably" better if he hadn't supported Trump, per multiple outlets.

wait, this is what you're reduced to now, pointing out crooks who are worse off for Trump having been President? By God, that'll show 'im.
 
How many eggs are in a dozen eggs? In other words, how many of anything makes a dozen? It isn’t a trick question. I was lobbing softballs to bluetard to see just how incompetent he is after showing his utter lack of aptitude over something as simple as percentages
jeesus, dealing with retards is so tedious.

Here you go, Ricky Retardo.

You are grocery shopping, and you pick up two cartons of eggs, with a dozen eggs in each. You like to get a dozen white eggs and a dozen brown eggs, and you call them dems and pubs because you have the sense of humor of a wet sponge. You are in a hurry, so you don't check them before you check out.

You get home and then decide to check them out and sonofabitch, most of the eggs in each carton appear to be cracked. You estimate roughly in your head that something like 85% of the eggs are broken. You march right back up to the supermarket and find the manager, and tell him you need to return the eggs you just bought. The manager picks up the pub carton and says why do you need to return this carton? You say, "because AT LEAST 35-40% of the eggs are broken"

Now tell us, you fvcking idiot, what is incorrect in the statement you made to the manager?

I'll go ahead and help your dumb, lying ass out. I'll tell you that NOTHING is incorrect in what you said. You didn't say 35-40% is the same as 85% as your lying ass claimed that I did. If 85% of the eggs are indeed broken, or even if any amount greater than 35% of the eggs are broken, then it is absolutely true that AT LEAST 35-40% of them are.

I think I was easily prekindergarten when I understood the meaning of 'at least', and your retarded ass still doesn't understand it. You're still trying to make this a math problem, when it's actually a moron problem. Oh, and a liar problem. LMFAO
 
TL;DR I'll get that out of the way now, but there is a lot to unpack from his mouth breathing laid out below.

The AR-style rifles, the XM-15, the M&P-15.
So, because they look scary or have letters and numbers in their name they are somehow bad? What is it about "AR-style" that makes them different from any other rifle? This is all nice for you to say, but all it does is demonstrate a lack of knowledge on your part. Specifics matter. Details matter. Just because it looks scary and you've been told a thousand times that it's bad and it's a a weapon of war doesn't make it so.

You know, all those self-loading automatic weapons
This is a flat out media/gun grabber lie and again demonstrates your lack of knowledge. An automatic weapon is one that fires multiple rounds with only one pull of the trigger. It fires until the trigger is released or you exhaust the number of rounds. Technically speaking, a private citizen can own an automatic weapon (also known as a machine gun), but it's not easy. If one lives in the right location and has a lot of time and money, they can eventually get one. And I mean a lot. Just the law of supply and demand kicks in because a private citizen is basically prevented from owning any machine gun manufactured after May of 1986. That significantly limits legal supply.

As I said, details matter and you likely meant to say semi-automatic weapons. That means one round fired for each separate trigger pull and the action loads the next round. The problem that limits you from defining things as I had asked is that this describes the vast majority of rifles (excluding things like single shot, bolt action, lever action, muzzleloader) and the overwhelming majority of handguns sold in the last couple decades (again, excluding single shots and revolvers). It even includes many, many shotguns that one would take hunting or clay bird shooting. So, functionally, referring to an "AR-style" does nothing to differentiate from the majority of firearms out there. You can't define it because there is NO difference from a functional standpoint, only appearance, but boy are they scary.

so cheap and easy to purchase
Again, this is a complete falsehood. There is nothing cheap about them. In fact, the AR-15 that was used by the shooter the last time we discussed all of this with the Valde, TX shooter cost over two grand (from Daniel Defense out of Georgia). It's a false narrative and there is no "so cheap" source. Nor are they "easy to purchase". The same background check that is required for other firearms exists for your "AR-style" firearms. I can't give you details because the level of checking can vary depending on any given locale. But this isn't like you running out to grab some Q for supper.

To bring back something similar to the Federal Assault Weapons Ban with more stringent background checks would be a start but the gun owners see that as a threat.
Why would you bring back a law that did nothing? The ban was an utter failure and had no demonstrable impact on crime. Furthermore, even if it did, we are talking about individuals who are committed to the idea of accomplishing mass murder. Who would be stupid enough to think that criminals wouldn't break the law and illegally acquire any weapon they wanted when they are already committed to mass murder? (you can answer that in your head and not as a reply because there is no need to embarrass yourself further). A ban would do nothing. It would be like that current ban they've got to control the spread of fentanyl. With regard to "more stringent background checks", it's a great talking point, but that's all it is. Again, details matter. Just exactly what does that mean? Sadly, background checks have not stopped this from happening (the Uvalde shooter passed his check or he would not have been able to get his firearm from the FFL). Realistically, what is "more stringent"? It might make you feel better to say such general things, but the details of what it means matters. There must be some connection between the implementation and the actually goal. Just throwing out talking points like "reasonable gun laws" means nothing. It's sales and marketing by the gun grabbers. I mean, how could you be against REASONABLE gun control laws. They're REASONABLE by definition. But what are they? Exactly what does more stringent background checks mean?

You're the one who introduced statistics with your "blue cities-gun violence" remark. Now that I counter with the violence in red states you want to dismiss numbers, or blame the sources, or over complicate it.
Sorry if you find being challenged to justify your claim to be a complication. I mentioned that the vast majority of crime (what you described as "gun violence") occurred in dem run cities and that it occurred with handguns - NOT your targeted "AR-style" rifle. You distracted from these facts by citing a study that attempts to take away the focus from the cities by asserting that red states have higher crime rates. This is, of course, an attempt to indict red state policy. But it still doesn't address the fact that most of the crime is in the blue cities, with blue policies, with blue politicians, and with HANDGUNS, not with AR's. And what's behind it are things no one wants to talk about.

The bottom line is that these things are horrible when they happen. But, there has to be some connection or nexus between the problem and the proposed solution. It may make you feel better to make such sweeping and easy pronouncements, but false perceptions and false claims are not the way to get there. Running around screaming do something just for the sake of doing something is never the answer.
 
In today's episode of "everything Trump touches dies": his billionaire friend Tom.

-In testimony on Monday, the billionaire reportedly said Trump was "disastrous" for his business.

-He said that it would be "unquestionably" better if he hadn't supported Trump, per multiple outlets.

TDS is truly the gift that keeps giving. The linked article does NOT say state that "the billionaire reportedly said Trump was 'disastrous' for his business." What it says is that his "ties" to Trump, that is the billionaire's support of Trump and Trump's campaign was "disastrous" for his business. Orange touched nothing. Your implication is that orange somehow was involved with the business and caused it to fail - "everything Trump touches dies". The guy would have been better off simply sitting on the sidelines and enjoying Trump's economic boom that everyone rode until the pandemic overwhelmed the world.

Indeed, virtually everyone attached to Trump or associated with him has been attacked by the msm and the government apparatus for over six years. Why would this billionaire be the exception?
 
Dems being dems. At least Biden and most other Dems strongly told the Prog caucus to stfu, but still!

 
Dems being dems. At least Biden and most other Dems strongly told the Prog caucus to stfu, but still!

hey I know...while we're tossing a trillion of unpaid student loans down the drain let's just say fvck it and toss whatever we've spent on Ukraine down the drain along with it. Fvck, let's just stop fooling around and have a bonfire you can see from space.
 
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jeesus, dealing with retards is so tedious.

Here you go, Ricky Retardo.

You are grocery shopping, and you pick up two cartons of eggs, with a dozen eggs in each. You like to get a dozen white eggs and a dozen brown eggs, and you call them dems and pubs because you have the sense of humor of a wet sponge. You are in a hurry, so you don't check them before you check out.

You get home and then decide to check them out and sonofabitch, most of the eggs in each carton appear to be cracked. You estimate roughly in your head that something like 85% of the eggs are broken. You march right back up to the supermarket and find the manager, and tell him you need to return the eggs you just bought. The manager picks up the pub carton and says why do you need to return this carton? You say, "because AT LEAST 35-40% of the eggs are broken"

Now tell us, you fvcking idiot, what is incorrect in the statement you made to the manager?

I'll go ahead and help your dumb, lying ass out. I'll tell you that NOTHING is incorrect in what you said. You didn't say 35-40% is the same as 85% as your lying ass claimed that I did. If 85% of the eggs are indeed broken, or even if any amount greater than 35% of the eggs are broken, then it is absolutely true that AT LEAST 35-40% of them are.

I think I was easily prekindergarten when I understood the meaning of 'at least', and your retarded ass still doesn't understand it. You're still trying to make this a math problem, when it's actually a moron problem. Oh, and a liar problem. LMFAO
It's funny how you say I lack originality when it's you who imitates my messages with your own feeble and derivative posts like this one. You do it so frequently I'm guessing you admire my work, eh? Come up with your own material from now on, you third-rate hack.

Archer clarified a few hours ago what he meant and how he used incorrect numbers, yet here you are still sticking to your stupid and erroneous story simply because you would rather look like a foolish old geezer than admit you are wrong. It's kind of funny watching you poop yourself like this time and time again.
 
Talk about tl:dr. However, I've glossed over your post and I guess I have some answers for you.

So, because they look scary or have letters and numbers in their name they are somehow bad? What is it about "AR-style" that makes them different from any other rifle?
Because the weapons I listed, including AR-style rifles such as AR-15s, are the weapons of choice in mass shootings that I was specifically talking about.
An automatic weapon is one that fires multiple rounds with only one pull of the trigger. It fires until the trigger is released or you exhaust the number of rounds. As I said, details matter and you likely meant to say semi-automatic weapons. That means one round fired for each separate trigger pull and the action loads the next round.
Not only did I mean to say semi-automatic weapons but that is precisely the term I used a few posts back. Do details really matter to you because it appears you've become rather sloppy with the details.

Again, this is a complete falsehood. There is nothing cheap about them. In fact, the AR-15 that was used by the shooter the last time we discussed all of this with the Valde, TX shooter cost over two grand (from Daniel Defense out of Georgia).
$2000+? Is that all? For a weapon that can take out dozens of innocent victims in minutes without reloading? Wow! Like I said, cheap.

I mentioned that the vast majority of crime (what you described as "gun violence") occurred in dem run cities and that it occurred with handguns - NOT your targeted "AR-style" rifle. You distracted from these facts by citing a study that attempts to take away the focus from the cities by asserting that red states have higher crime rates. This is, of course, an attempt to indict red state policy. But it still doesn't address the fact that most of the crime is in the blue cities, with blue policies, with blue politicians, and with HANDGUNS, not with AR's.
So what's the problem here? You pointed out the higher number of fatalities in blue cities with liberal policies and I pointed out the higher number of fatalities in red states with conservative policies. So what? It almost sounds like your accusing me of not fighting fairly.

This reminds me of my ignorant cousin who was once complaining about states like New York and California being blue states only because of their large metropolitan areas that are full of Democrats. I countered with the states of Texas and Florida, red states that also have large metropolitan areas that are heavily Republican, and he did the same thing you're doing right now.
"But, but, it's not the same thing."
"It's exactly the same thing, cousin Eddie."
Cousin Eddie scratches his head, dumbfounded by the exchange and suddenly unsure of himself.
 
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It's funny how you say I lack originality when it's you who imitates my messages with your own feeble and derivative posts like this one. You do it so frequently I'm guessing you admire my work, eh? Come up with your own material from now on, you third-rate hack.

Archer clarified a few hours ago what he meant and how he used incorrect numbers, yet here you are still sticking to your stupid and erroneous story simply because you would rather look like a foolish old geezer than admit you are wrong. It's kind of funny watching you poop yourself like this time and time again.
lol, don't even try it, fishlips. You have yet to show that anything I said is incorrect, because it isn't. What Archer intended is irrelevant. I wasn't making assumptions about his intentions like you were just for the purpose of being an asshole. Instead of making assumptions, I pointed out, correctly, that what he actually said was not a math error as you claimed. It wasn't and it still isn't. That's why you have to keep deflecting to your usual asininity as per your M.O.. You've got nothing else to offer.

You are no less a liar now than you have been all along..

And who the f knows what you are babbling about concerning originality. You're the most unoriginal twit here and the day I'm so desperate for something to say as to borrow from your drooling idiocy, I'll disappear from here. I guess my originality remarks really burned you. It shows. So sad.

That butthurt is causing you to try to throw the burn you feel back at me. It ain't working, fishlips. I can read you just like a book Burn, baby, burn. . LMAO.
 
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Heels noir, you need to quit arguing the math thing. If someone says at least 20% of all dogs are black and it turns out that 40% are black, then nothing that person said is incorrect. If that person says 20% of all dogs are black and it turns out that 40% are black, then what that person said is incorrect. You got offended because you perceived that I was intentionally slurring Dems when I specifically said I didn’t think all Dems were corrupt and that I thought 85-90% of all Congressmen were corrupt, Pubs and Dems alike. I can’t make it any clearer than that. I have criticized Pubs many times before, specifically the guy you and the rest of the Squad are obsessed with, Trump. But you guys, with the exception of Blue34, can‘t stand any criticism of your party. You can’t admit your party’s policies have been responsible for 40 year high inflation, the border invasion, soaring crime, sky high gas and food costs, etc… Your party is in charge, they control all three branches of the government. Trump is no longer POTUS. Your party is completely in charge. Have the balls to admit that, discuss those issues, and defend your party’s policies.
 
Anyone see Fetterman last night? What a great conversation he, Biden and Harris could have. They already speak a language only they could understand. Those of you who think Herschel is an idiot should listen to one of your own.
 
“I don’t believe people should be able to own guns.” Barack Obama


“Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe.” Diane Feinstein

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . 'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,' I would have done it." Diane Feinstein

“I do not believe in people owning guns. Guns should be owned only by [the] police and military. I am going to do everything I can to disarm this state.” Michael Dukakis

“The Brady Bill is the minimum step Congress should take…we need much stricter gun control, and eventually should bar the ownership of handguns, except in a few cases.” U.S. Representative William Clay


“I don’t care about crime, I just want to get the guns.” Senator Howard Metzenbaum

“My bill … establishes a 6-month grace period for the turning in of all handguns.” U.S. Representative Major Owens

 
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Health chiefs noted that in 'most cases gender incongruence does not persist into adolescence'.

Its guidance says 'social transitioning' should be no longer be viewed as a 'neutral act' due to the significant effects it may have on a child's psychology."

 
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Health chiefs noted that in 'most cases gender incongruence does not persist into adolescence'.

Its guidance says 'social transitioning' should be no longer be viewed as a 'neutral act' due to the significant effects it may have on a child's psychology."

the simple truth is that the depraved on that side of things...that is, the trans themselves and the bleeding-heart types who weep for them...WANT there to be more trans, so that they can be considered normal. It isn't enough to treat them equally as citizens, we must also embrace them socially and make wedding cakes for them.

And that isn't of course true of all trans, but I would wager it is of most. And it's definitely true of the bleeding-heart enablers who are bent on turning our country into a mushfest. It's the latter that I despise because they enable all the crud that should by common sense and common decency be minimized. By crud I'm not referring to individual trans but rather the creep of gender incongruence into our lives, as well as things like criminality and irresponsibility.
 
the simple truth is that the depraved on that side of things...that is, the trans themselves and the bleeding-heart types who weep for them...WANT there to be more trans, so that they can be considered normal. It isn't enough to treat them equally as citizens, we must also embrace them socially and make wedding cakes for them.

And that isn't of course true of all trans, but I would wager it is of most. And it's definitely true of the bleeding-heart enablers who are bent on turning our country into a mushfest. It's the latter that I despise because they enable all the crud that should by common sense and common decency be minimized. By crud I'm not referring to individual trans but rather the creep of gender incongruence into our lives, as well as things like criminality and irresponsibility.
Great post. They are not helping people as they surmise but just causing immense damage to the vulnerable. Yet they seem to think of themselves as the good guys.
 
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