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on the balloon thing. It’s 11 miles up. Which just so happens to be the exact elevation that nations informally release sovereignty over air space. (Prob cause airplanes can’t operate) weather balloons typically fly 25 miles up. So to start shooting down objects passing overhead at that elevation sets a precedent that would mean China and Russia and the 20 or so other countries that we spy on daily and who have “weather” satellites over our heads right now could use to shoot down our “weather” satellites if and when they have the tech. No one wants to start doing that cause there goes a lot of tech we are dependent on such as gps and the nfl sunday package. The ballon is doing absolutely nothing diff than a satellite does (albeit much cheaper) and China is doing nothing diff by spying-er- doing weather research than we’ve done to them for decades now. It’s just more visible than usual I guess with the news coverage. It does raise the issue of national sovereignty related to altitude and maybe this will bring about a more formal agreement.

The comments on social media about people shooting it down are pretty funny. It’s 11 miles up people.
 
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Depends on the item/substance/matter and how hard the gov tries. Black markets happen, but things can be curbed. There was a pretty long period of time when people in china wanted more than 1 kid. Births dropped. We also learned they preferred males, so abortions went up. And now there are "off the books" people with trouble getting education and services.
I think this is more revealing about you and your personal attitude toward the government's role in our lives than just about anything I've observed you previously post. And, it says everything about how your answers always seem to be that we need more government intervention and intrusion (so long as you like the elected leader). The fact that you could, with a straight face, compare a question about anything operating in our constitutional republic to the CCP says volumes.

Yes, of course, a government can exercise complete dominion and complete control over it's citizens' existence. Communism, socialism, dictatorships, monarchies, etc. have all shown that throughout history. However, that's not supposed to be what our country was founded upon or was ever meant to become, Chairman Blaze. We used to recognize that the benefits of freedom grossly outweigh the negatives.

Here, in our system, it doesn't depend "on the item/substance/matter and how hard the gov tries." Prostitution, alcohol, drugs, and, yes, guns in the "wrong" hands have all been largely outlawed, regulated, banned, made illegal, etc. and had billions of dollars thrown at them - all to largely fail. Where there is demand, there will be supply. Failing to accept this is fool's gold.
 
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on the balloon thing. It’s 11 miles up. Which just so happens to be the exact elevation that nations informally release sovereignty over air space. (Prob cause airplanes can’t operate) weather balloons typically fly 25 miles up. So to start shooting down objects passing overhead at that elevation sets a precedent that would mean China and Russia and the 20 or so other countries that we spy on daily and who have “weather” satellites over our heads right now could use to shoot down our “weather” satellites if and when they have the tech. No one wants to start doing that cause there goes a lot of tech we are dependent on such as gps and the nfl sunday package. The ballon is doing absolutely nothing diff than a satellite does (albeit much cheaper) and China is doing nothing diff by spying-er- doing weather research than we’ve done to them for decades now. It’s just more visible than usual I guess with the news coverage. It does raise the issue of national sovereignty related to altitude and maybe this will bring about a more formal agreement.

The comments on social media about people shooting it down are pretty funny. It’s 11 miles up people.
Why am I suddenly craving egg rolls?
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on the balloon thing. It’s 11 miles up. Which just so happens to be the exact elevation that nations informally release sovereignty over air space. (Prob cause airplanes can’t operate) weather balloons typically fly 25 miles up. So to start shooting down objects passing overhead at that elevation sets a precedent that would mean China and Russia and the 20 or so other countries that we spy on daily and who have “weather” satellites over our heads right now could use to shoot down our “weather” satellites if and when they have the tech. No one wants to start doing that cause there goes a lot of tech we are dependent on such as gps and the nfl sunday package. The ballon is doing absolutely nothing diff than a satellite does (albeit much cheaper) and China is doing nothing diff by spying-er- doing weather research than we’ve done to them for decades now. It’s just more visible than usual I guess with the news coverage. It does raise the issue of national sovereignty related to altitude and maybe this will bring about a more formal agreement.

The comments on social media about people shooting it down are pretty funny. It’s 11 miles up people.
I really don't know what the answer is to this dilemma. They are now reporting one over Latin America. Could we just float one below it to block it, lol?
 
on the balloon thing. It’s 11 miles up. Which just so happens to be the exact elevation that nations informally release sovereignty over air space. (Prob cause airplanes can’t operate) weather balloons typically fly 25 miles up. So to start shooting down objects passing overhead at that elevation sets a precedent that would mean China and Russia and the 20 or so other countries that we spy on daily and who have “weather” satellites over our heads right now could use to shoot down our “weather” satellites if and when they have the tech. No one wants to start doing that cause there goes a lot of tech we are dependent on such as gps and the nfl sunday package. The ballon is doing absolutely nothing diff than a satellite does (albeit much cheaper) and China is doing nothing diff by spying-er- doing weather research than we’ve done to them for decades now. It’s just more visible than usual I guess with the news coverage. It does raise the issue of national sovereignty related to altitude and maybe this will bring about a more formal agreement.

The comments on social media about people shooting it down are pretty funny. It’s 11 miles up people.

I don’t get some of y’all. We used to be a country that did whatever the f*ck we wanted and other countries sat there and took it. Because we ran shit. I liked that. All Americans should like that. That’s who we are supposed to be. Here’s to hoping we get back there one day.
 
I don’t get some of y’all. We used to be a country that did whatever the f*ck we wanted and other countries sat there and took it. Because we ran shit. I liked that. All Americans should like that. That’s who we are supposed to be. Here’s to hoping we get back there one day.
You always got to pick your battles. Im not privy to the machinations of our relationship behind the scenes with China but seems to me A fuking balloon isn’t worth it.
 
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Then you haven't read or been listening to poasts where I've criticized the left multiple times.

As for the border, if anyone is honest with themselves, they'll admit that neither side actually has a serious concrete plan to address the border and stand to benefit each election cycle by letting it simmer for as long as possible. And while the situation is horrendous under Biden, to call him solely responsible ignores that the border also wasn't great under Trump or Obama or Bush.

'Invasion' is also hyperbole. Invasion denotes people coming with spears and axes coming to conquer your land. These are immigrants. Illegal, yes. But immigrants all the same.



Again, something that we just won't see eye to eye on.
Trump was serious about the border and despite massive opposition and lawfare, got it done and then Biden and the dems threw it all away.
 
Maybe wearing a tin foil hat or one with tin foil lining isn't such a crazy idea or may not be in the future.

Check this out.

 
I think this is more revealing about you and your personal attitude toward the government's role in our lives than just about anything I've observed you previously post. And, it says everything about how your answers always seem to be that we need more government intervention and intrusion (so long as you like the elected leader). The fact that you could, with a straight face, compare a question about anything operating in our constitutional republic to the CCP says volumes.

Yes, of course, a government can exercise complete dominion and complete control over it's citizens' existence. Communism, socialism, dictatorships, monarchies, etc. have all shown that throughout history. However, that's not supposed to be what our country was founded upon or was ever meant to become, Chairman Blaze. We used to recognize that the benefits of freedom grossly outweigh the negatives.

Here, in our system, it doesn't depend "on the item/substance/matter and how hard the gov tries." Prostitution, alcohol, drugs, and, yes, guns in the "wrong" hands have all been largely outlawed, regulated, banned, made illegal, etc. and had billions of dollars thrown at them - all to largely fail. Where there is demand, there will be supply. Failing to accept this is fool's gold.
Excellent poast.
 
I don’t get some of y’all. We used to be a country that did whatever the f*ck we wanted and other countries sat there and took it. Because we ran shit. I liked that. All Americans should like that. That’s who we are supposed to be. Here’s to hoping we get back there one day.
Translation: I am so angry that Donald Trump is no longer president that now all I can do is poop on Amurica.
 
Notice how Biden made sure China got everything they wanted before shooting the spy balloon down.

We have a foreign agent in the WH.
 
Notice how Biden made sure China got everything they wanted before shooting the spy balloon down.

We have a foreign agent in the WH.
You idiot, do you really believe they captured imagery or gathered information they couldn't have gotten a lot easier from the Google Earth app, or maybe their own extensive network of surveillance satellites?

We have a complete boob on OOTB.
 
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We have a complete boob on OOTB.
And he just posted:
You idiot, do you really believe they captured imagery or gathered information they couldn't have gotten a lot easier from the Google Earth app, or maybe their own extensive network of surveillance satellites?
Seriously, if they got nothing, truly nothing, why would they have ever launched their "weather balloon"? Even if it was just to test what we would do or for use as internal propaganda, they still got something.
 
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Maybe wearing a tin foil hat or one with tin foil lining isn't such a crazy idea or may not be in the future.

Check this out.

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And he just posted:

Seriously, if they got nothing, truly nothing, why would they have ever launched their "weather balloon"? Even if it was just to test what we would do or for use as internal propaganda, they still got something.
I think the why is the most important thing. He's right when he said they didn't get anything from it that they didn't already have. So, why do it? The whole thing doesn't make any sense. They had to have had a reason other than spying with a balloon.
 
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Seriously, if they got nothing, truly nothing, why would they have ever launched their "weather balloon"? Even if it was just to test what we would do or for use as internal propaganda, they still got something.
Come on, poopondook. We've all come to expect such foolishness from randman but aren't you better than this?

Once the Navy and Coast Guard recover the payload and the Defense Department has a chance to examine it, who's to say we won't learn as much or more about China's espionage technology that we didn't know before as whatever they might learn about the U.S. that they didn't already know?
 
I think the why is the most important thing. He's right when he said they didn't get anything from it that they didn't already have. So, why do it? The whole thing doesn't make any sense. They had to have had a reason other than spying with a balloon.

They did it to cuck our President. That was the goal: to make Biden look like a weak, timid, pitiful leader and to make them look like they can do whatever they want and we’re too scared or too stupid to do anything about it. Mission accomplished. They should feel pretty good about themselves right now.
 
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They did it to cuck our President. That was the goal: to make Biden look like a weak, timid, pitiful leader and to make them look like they can do whatever they want and we’re too scared or too stupid to do anything about it. Mission accomplished. They should feel pretty good about themselves right now.
You're like a woman watching sporting events which she knows absolutely nothing about, ceaselessly yapping and trying to play armchair quarterback and second-guessing the professionals.

When do you report to the Pentagon for your first assignment, poopslinger?
 
Come on, poopondook. We've all come to expect such foolishness from randman but aren't you better than this?

Once the Navy and Coast Guard recover the payload and the Defense Department has a chance to examine it, who's to say we won't learn as much or more about China's espionage technology that we didn't know before as whatever they might learn about the U.S. that they didn't already know?
Um, exactly why do you think China spent all that cash on the Bidens or Milley said he would warn China about any operation Trump ordered.

It's right in your face and yet you still can't accept it.
 
You idiot, do you really believe they captured imagery or gathered information they couldn't have gotten a lot easier from the Google Earth app, or maybe their own extensive network of surveillance satellites?

We have a complete boob on OOTB.
So your argument is China just did it for nothing, eh?

And you call me a boob. LOL
 
Sometimes I think this is the kind of normal, well-rounded person in the eyes of people like Heel Noir.

 
They did it to cuck our President. That was the goal: to make Biden look like a weak, timid, pitiful leader and to make them look like they can do whatever they want and we’re too scared or too stupid to do anything about it. Mission accomplished. They should feel pretty good about themselves right now.
"This isn’t the first time Chinese spy balloons have crossed into U.S. airspace in recent years, one of the officials said. At least three times during the Trump administration and at least one other time during Biden’s time as president they’ve seen balloons cross, but not for this long, the official said."

 
So your argument is China just did it for nothing, eh?
No, that isn't my argument. I have no idea what China was trying to accomplish by sending a comparatively unsophisticated and low-tech contraption like this balloon above and over U.S. airspace, but neither do you.

I do know that people like you and @gunslingerdick are taking the opportunity to declare this some sort of political victory for China before knowing all the facts.
 
No, that isn't my argument. I have no idea what China was trying to accomplish by sending a comparatively unsophisticated and low-tech contraption like this balloon above and over U.S. airspace, but neither do you.

I do know that people like you and @gunslingerdick are taking the opportunity to declare this some sort of political victory for China before knowing all the facts.

Do you track when your obsession with me flares up. Might be some good insight for the doctors treating you.

And the “let’s wait and see” crowd continues to impress me with their hypocrisy.
 
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The worst-case-scenario is that leaks about previous Chinese spy balloons mean the Deep State and their puppets in both military and intelligence departments knew but did not inform the Trump administration. If that’s the case, then our worst fears are being realized while nobody’s paying much attention. It would mean that they are not only working against our best interests — which we’ve known for a while — but that they’re working WITH the Chinese Communist Party to attack America.

There’s really no other excuse why military and intelligence leaders would keep knowledge of three spy balloons invading our airspace a secret unless they were in the process of committing treason on behalf of the CCP."

 
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I do know that people like you and @gunslingerdick are taking the opportunity to declare this some sort of political victory for China before knowing all the facts.
as an aside, Biden being president is a political victory for China. That's a fact. The balloon was just an 'extra added attraction' as the commercials used to say.

But here's an interesting little rundown on the balloon story that seems pretty on-target.....

 
Biden being president is a political victory for China.
But a personal defeat for you. 😢

I noticed you were mostly absent over the weekend, blue. I also noticed that lame-o chick flick 80 for Brady opened in theaters Friday and advertised matinee showings Saturday and Sunday in movie houses throughout the Triangle.

Coincidence? Likely not.
 
sending a comparatively unsophisticated and low-tech contraption like this balloon above and over U.S. airspace
None of us know what this was, what it was capable of, etc. If we did, our clearance level and obligations would prevent us from expressing as much in this forum and you are very, very unlikely to see it on the "news" for decades to come. However, do not confuse the messaging you are receiving with reality. Yes, a balloon is unsophisticated and low-tech. The mechanism of delivery (the balloon) has absolutely nothing to do with the payload hanging from it. The wise course would be to assume that the componentry was in fact very sophisticated and high-tech.
 
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None of us know what this was, what it was capable of, etc. If we did, our clearance level and obligations would prevent us from expressing as much in this forum and you are very, very unlikely to see it on the "news" for decades to come. However, do not confuse the messaging you are receiving with reality. Yes, a balloon is unsophisticated and low-tech. The mechanism of delivery (the balloon) has absolutely nothing to do with the payload hanging from it. The wise course would be to assume that the componentry was in fact very sophisticated and high-tech.
They've already said there wasn't anything on it that China couldn't have seen from a satellite. The only thing I could think of was real time movement, but that would only be useful during a war. I still think they were doing something else and this is more of a distraction.
 
The balloon may not have gathered any meaningful info. But that’s not the point. China’s point was to make Biden and by extension, America look like cucks. Mission accomplished. They flew it over here for one purpose - to see how we’d respond. And as we all would have assumed with Dementia Joe in charge, we failed China’s test.

But it’s ok. Prlyles says we’re repairing our image across the globe with Biden.
 
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