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Suburban women want the wall, buoying Trump after fleeing in 2018

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-the-wall-buoying-trump-after-fleeing-in-2018

Trump is gaining in the polls with women and minorities!!!

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I'll just leave this here - a little "palate cleanser" so to speak:
(warning - do not read this before or during eating, unless a vomit receptacle is nearby)

https://www.businessinsider.com/amy...omb-berated-aide-for-not-bringing-fork-2019-2

How does one even "eat salad with a comb"?

Only in Minnesota....we have some beauties here on the politcal front..... making FL and VA look good comparatively.....
@nolesoup4you
 
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I'll just leave this here - a little "palate cleanser" so to speak:
(warning - do not read this before or during eating, unless a vomit receptacle is nearby)

https://www.businessinsider.com/amy...omb-berated-aide-for-not-bringing-fork-2019-2

Only in Minnesota....we have some beauties here on the politcal front..... making FL and VA look good comparatively.....
@nolesoup4you

In my hometown, 3 of the elected officials on the county commissioners board are lawbreakers. One is a disbarred attorney, one is a former owner of a nursing facility that defrauded several patients and the other has been arrested 2 times for domestic violence...wife dropped the cases both times. Nothing like small town politics.
 
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In my hometown, 3 of the elected officials on the county commissioners board are lawbreakers. One is a disbarred attorney, one is a former owner of a nursing facility that defrauded several patients and the other has been arrested 2 times for domestic violence...wife dropped the cases both times. Nothing like small town politics.
You're right - and the smaller and more local the politics, the weirder / shadier.

But "everybody loves Amy" - she wins like 70% of the statewide US senate vote here. And she senses all of America wants and needs her to be president in 2020. She would say the local scene is for small-time losers. (But hasn't really ever done or passed anything anyone would have ever heard of).
 
"A Coast Guard lieutenant and self-described white nationalist who was arrested in Maryland last week was plotting to kill a long list of prominent journalists and Democratic politicians, as well as professors, judges and what he called “leftists in general,” federal prosecutors said in a court filing on Tuesday."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/christopher-hasson-coast-guard.html

Kinda funny that Trump has no problem condemning Smollett, but can't bring himself to tell his supporters not to kill their fellow Americans.
 
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"A Coast Guard lieutenant and self-described white nationalist who was arrested in Maryland last week was plotting to kill a long list of prominent journalists and Democratic politicians, as well as professors, judges and what he called “leftists in general,” federal prosecutors said in a court filing on Tuesday."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/us/christopher-hasson-coast-guard.html

Kinda funny that Trump has no problem condemning Smollett, but can't bring himself to tell his supporters not to kill their fellow Americans.
Why would he do that? I'm sure he hired the guy.
 
“being discriminated for so many times in my life, I just had to stand up for myself," she said. "He’s not a victim. I am the victim. I have been bullied, OK?”

And there it is.

I guess as long as you can claim being discriminated against, physical attacks are ok. Liberal logic at its finest!!
 
Radio silence about a wannabe mass killer from the trumpanzees, while they talk about the liberal logic of justifying violence. You can’t make this shit up.
 
Radio silence about a wannabe mass killer from the trumpanzees, while they talk about the liberal logic of justifying violence. You can’t make this shit up.

I haven't heard much about it. I heard the initial reports, and it didn't sound good, but I haven't heard anything on it since. That being said, are you so far out of touch that you think anyone on this board would be in favor of these guys arbitrarily killing people they didn't like?
 
Ya, I mean any nut plotting to kill people should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Didn’t think there was really any debate on that.

But there is debate when a liberal assaults someone? Please. This is obviously partisan selection bias. Nobody here wants to acknowledge the fact that trumps rhetoric about the media being an enemy of the people directly led to some psychopath trying to kill “left wing” journalists.
 
But there is debate when a liberal assaults someone? Please. This is obviously partisan selection bias. Nobody here wants to acknowledge the fact that trumps rhetoric about the media being an enemy of the people directly led to some psychopath trying to kill “left wing” journalists.

The media doesn't need any help being hated, bruh. Covington and Smollett are just the latest cases of the media being a mouth piece for the Democratic Party.
 
Radio silence about a wannabe mass killer from the trumpanzees, while they talk about the liberal logic of justifying violence. You can’t make this shit up.
Silly rabbit, I told you trump paid this guy. We've got a go fund me now set up to pay his bail. That's how we roll
 
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https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...man-slams-clinton-and-aides-as-total-ingrates

Infighting between Sanders camp and Clintons camp. I'm not sure which is more disingenuous: requesting someone to fly around and stump for you after you conned him in the primary to then two years later bash him for doing so...or to whip around stumping for someone who you know illegitimately got the nomination in a fuel guzzling private jet and then sign on to a Green New Deal that stresses the need to halt air travel within the next decade
 
https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...man-slams-clinton-and-aides-as-total-ingrates

Infighting between Sanders camp and Clintons camp. I'm not sure which is more disingenuous: requesting someone to fly around and stump for you after you conned him in the primary to then two years later bash him for doing so...or to whip around stumping for someone who you know illegitimately got the nomination in a fuel guzzling private jet and then sign on to a Green New Deal that stresses the need to halt air travel within the next decade

That Green New Deal one of the dumber things ever proposed. $93 trillion dollars...Trump could build a massive bubble around the US, Simpsons style, for like half that price.

AOC claiming victory because people are tweeting about it (how bad it is) is hysterical.

Liberals are 1000x more dangerous than anything Trump could ever do.
 
That Green New Deal one of the dumber things ever proposed. $93 trillion dollars...Trump could build a massive bubble around the US, Simpsons style, for like half that price.

AOC claiming victory because people are tweeting about it (how bad it is) is hysterical.

Liberals are 1000x more dangerous than anything Trump could ever do.
I really don't understand why these politicians are endorsing the green new deal. Maybe it's because there isn't a lot of details out, so they think they can fool voters. If Pelosi thinks your plan is too far left, that's not a good thing.
 
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I really don't understand why these politicians are endorsing the green new deal. Maybe it's because there isn't a lot of details out, so they think they can fool voters. If Pelosi thinks your plan is too far left, that's not a good thing.

The green new deal is still in the concept stage. There’s no actual legislation but the idea started well before AOC made it look ridiculous with absurd policy ideas. My understanding is it represents a package of certain ideas like moving away from fossil fuels, healthcare reform, education reform and ending the drug war. But she is basically just a useful idiot for the right. She certainly doesn’t speak for a majority of liberals from what I can tell.
 
I really don't understand why these politicians are endorsing the green new deal. Maybe it's because there isn't a lot of details out, so they think they can fool voters. If Pelosi thinks your plan is too far left, that's not a good thing.
AOC has received such a vast following on the left, with progressives, democrat base (online / social media anyway)- that every other Democratic or Dem Socialist politician is afraid to death of her and of offending her following within the base of the party.

These of Democratic politicians are much more experienced and knowledgeable, practical, economics literate than AOC. They'd like to raise some lesser, more realistic, feasible, doable initiatives and discuss compromise with AOC.

But anytime someone even from her own party even raises an eyebrow or dares raise legit question something like "how do we afford actually rebuilding every building in US? How do we get rid of almost all air travel? How do we get rid of usage of fossil fuels, combustion engines? How do we finance a decent living for those unwilling to work? Are these things possible without destroying our economy?"

....AOC flies into some petulant entitled 4 year old temper tantrum, like she has never had to face facts or real world intelligent economic discussions and principles, and her followers crucify the Democratic person raising the legitimate questions.

So yeah, its her party for now, and its going to be very precarious for Democrats to maneuver and navigate how to question her, ask for compromise, get in touch with practical, doable reality....without getting politically destroyed.
 
But there is debate when a liberal assaults someone? Please. This is obviously partisan selection bias. Nobody here wants to acknowledge the fact that trumps rhetoric about the media being an enemy of the people directly led to some psychopath trying to kill “left wing” journalists.

What debate? I posted an article about that the other day and there was no debate on it. That doen't mean that I assumed you supported the attack.
 
The green new deal is still in the concept stage. There’s no actual legislation but the idea started well before AOC made it look ridiculous with absurd policy ideas. My understanding is it represents a package of certain ideas like moving away from fossil fuels, healthcare reform, education reform and ending the drug war. But she is basically just a useful idiot for the right. She certainly doesn’t speak for a majority of liberals from what I can tell.

Perception is reality, buddy. You know, just like how you all keep screaming about Trump being a racist?
 
The green new deal is still in the concept stage. There’s no actual legislation but the idea started well before AOC made it look ridiculous with absurd policy ideas. My understanding is it represents a package of certain ideas like moving away from fossil fuels, healthcare reform, education reform and ending the drug war. But she is basically just a useful idiot for the right. She certainly doesn’t speak for a majority of liberals from what I can tell.
What you're proposing is the smart way the Democrats should proceed.

While she may not speak for a majority of liberals, especially rational, educated, practical ones who have read her Green New Deal - it seems like so many (maybe just on social media?) have blindly signed up to follow her, like a cult following, with no thought whatsoever, no reading, discussing, thinking about whether her Green New Deal is viable, or what parts of it are doable.

Because AOC's followers are very invested in being on the right side of history, and "we have to do something, anything, everything, to save the planet and help the afflicted".... any discussion about what is and is not doable is seen as being against the dream / cause. Any challengers or questioners are seen as part of the problem, the enemy of progress. Best epitomized by AOC's "morally right, but not factually right" attitude and mindset.
 
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Its a sad truth that the “stars” of each party are moving more and more to the extreme in their respective ideologies. Trump may not “fit the mold” of your normal politician but its because hes radically to the right. Same thing with AOC in the opposite direction. God i hope some moderate steps up and becomes bigger than either party agenda.
 
Its a sad truth that the “stars” of each party are moving more and more to the extreme in their respective ideologies. Trump may not “fit the mold” of your normal politician but its because hes radically to the right. Same thing with AOC in the opposite direction. God i hope some moderate steps up and becomes bigger than either party agenda.

The Dems should be embracing Schultz, but they're too out of control for that right now.
 
@Heelicious

Trump has received such a vast following on the righ, with conservatives, republican base (online / social media anyway)- that every other Republican or Conservative Christian politician is afraid to death of him and of offending him following within the base of the party.

These of Republicans politicians are much more experienced and knowledgeable, practical, economics literate than Trump. They'd like to raise some lesser, more realistic, feasible, doable initiatives and discuss compromise with Trump.

But anytime someone even from his own party even raises an eyebrow or dares raise legit question something like "how do we afford actually rebuilding the wall? How do we get rid of almost all immigrants? How do we get rid of usage of entitlements? How do we fix healthcare? Are these things possible without destroying our economy?"

....Trump flies into some petulant entitled 4 year old temper tantrum, like he has never had to face facts or real world intelligent economic discussions and principles, and his followers crucify the Republican person raising the legitimate questions.

So yeah, its his party for now, and its going to be very precarious for Republicans to maneuver and navigate how to question him, ask for compromise, get in touch with practical, doable reality....without getting politically destroyed.[/QUOTE]
 
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