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I read that most states don’t allow weapons on state capitol grounds. However The local law admitted no such law exists in Michigan. I don’t understand why people are trying to tie in gun rights to covid protests. Not only that to wear full tactical gear and display military style weaponry in doing so. I guess some boys never grow out of playing army.
I read it was a woman who hired them for PP. Wasn't but a handful (12) on the first day.
 
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I read it was a woman who hired them for PP. Wasn't but a handful (12) on the first day.
Kelley, a 38-year-old real estate broker, said he and other organizers are not part of a formal group but represent people who have been harmed by the stay-home order. He said he invited the Michigan Liberty Militia, which is listed as an anti-government group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, to serve as “security.” He suggested anyone who had a problem with their presence should read the Constitution and “live life without fear.

Sorry, it was a dude.
 
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I read that most states don’t allow weapons on state capitol grounds. However The local law admitted no such law exists in Michigan. I don’t understand why people are trying to tie in gun rights to covid protests. Not only that to wear full tactical gear and display military style weaponry in doing so. I guess some boys never grow out of playing army.
I think you are correct that most.men never grow up
 
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I think its crazy that any weapon is allow on or near any capitol building. I have an AR and would never carry it in public, much less a protest due to this kind of attention. My pistol is a different story since I have CC and use it for personal protection.

I am not saying these people arent crazy, nor am I saying that blacks would have a harder time in the same scenario. But if its legal, then they still have that right. I have said before, this country is broken morally, and will never be fixed. We can't fix racism because all sides will never allow it. I guess its the price of democracy. We as individuals can do something about it though. But individuals are allowed to think for themselves. This is why it always becomes an endless debate. In a socialist or communist society, this would not happen, or ended very differently.

Well then we're mostly in agreement. It shouldn't be legal, but if it isn't going to be legal then there shouldn't be any difference based on race.

Not sure how you managed to tie socialism or communism into this poast. I don't see how either of those ideologies is in play here.
 


Do blue lives still matter or is that not a thing anymore? I’m just trying to keep up.
 
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Well then we're mostly in agreement. It shouldn't be legal, but if it isn't going to be legal then there shouldn't be any difference based on race.

Not sure how you managed to tie socialism or communism into this poast. I don't see how either of those ideologies is in play here.
Just making a point that if we lived in either of those societies , we wouldn't hear of these things.
 
Just making a point that if we lived in either of those societies , we wouldn't hear of these things.

Same goes for if we lived in a christian theocratic state, but you don't see me bringing that up because its completely irrelevant to the discussion.
 
Trump is treated very well, even exalted, by southern white people. So, it's not quite the same.
 
TIL the mere presence of a gun makes something not non-violent. Interesting.
people don't kill people, guns do. And there doesn't have to be violence in order for something to be violent. But if there's something not violent going on and a group steps in to deliberately provoke violence, if they are liberal-minded it's OK because it was done in the name of anti-violence. And orange man bad because he caused it to happen by not condemning that violence before it was provoked. Welcome to libthink.
 
Did the media hate Lincoln?

For the most part, big time.

The War was extremely controversial, obviously. Anti-war newspapers were absolutely savage against him...they called for him to be shot, hung, etc.

Chicago, home of Stephen Douglas, had a few newspapers shut down because Lincoln said they were printing treasonous statements. There aren't too many public statements, however, by Lincoln about it because he tried to present a united front in the North amid the Civil War.

2 huge differences are that in 1860:

First, you could print whatever the hell you wanted with no one there to really fact check you. A paper in Chicago could say that Lincoln ran around the White House lawn naked and some farmer would have to take it at word because that's his single source of news. They'd even put on the headlines, "important if true: ..." then go on to say some BS.

Second, Lincoln inherited a country literally divided. Everything I've ever read on Lincoln was that his anger toward the press stemmed from him thinking they were hurting the cause of unity between the North and South, not for anything personal. Lincoln's first, second, and last goal was to unite the country.

I largely feel DJT's anger toward the press is because he feels they hurt his own self interests when they print "fake news."
 
For the most part, big time.

The War was extremely controversial, obviously. Anti-war newspapers were absolutely savage against him...they called for him to be shot, hung, etc.

Chicago, home of Stephen Douglas, had a few newspapers shut down because Lincoln said they were printing treasonous statements. There aren't too many public statements, however, by Lincoln about it because he tried to present a united front in the North amid the Civil War.

2 huge differences are that in 1860:

First, you could print whatever the hell you wanted with no one there to really fact check you. A paper in Chicago could say that Lincoln ran around the White House lawn naked and some farmer would have to take it at word because that's his single source of news. They'd even put on the headlines, "important if true: ..." then go on to say some BS.

Second, Lincoln inherited a country literally divided. Everything I've ever read on Lincoln was that his anger toward the press stemmed from him thinking they were hurting the cause of unity between the North and South, not for anything personal. Lincoln's first, second, and last goal was to unite the country.

I largely feel DJT's anger toward the press is because he feels they hurt his own self interests when they print "fake news."
Well stated... I was being somewhat facetious and sarcastic with my question. Lincoln, just like JFK, have been exalted and immortalized because they were assassinated. I'm not trying to diminish their legacy. It's just that they seem to become more endearing to history because of the tragedy of how they died.
 
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Well stated... I was being somewhat facetious and sarcastic with my question. Lincoln, just like JFK, have been exalted and immortalized because they were assassinated. I'm not trying to diminish their legacy. It's just that they seem to become more endearing to history because of the tragedy of how they died.

Yeah - those two are funny because one of them deserves his immortalized legacy and the other...meh.

I think JFK would have had an extremely rough second term but that's another story for another day.
 
I don't think this will happen, at all.

I don't like the guy but comparing Trump to Hitler just makes libs look foolish.
You didn't read it did you? The comparison is between the PEOPLE, not between Trump an Hitler.
 
I don't know why we would suddenly expect trump supporters to become ashamed of him. They've proven over and over again that literally nothing he says or does could cause that to happen.
 
There's really no need to. All your posts in this thread are repetitive. It's always some variation of how Trump is destroying the world, people will be ashamed they voted for him and usually has some vague reference to Hitler.
Thought you didn't read it. There you go again, telling things that's not true Wow, wonder who you could have gotten that from?
 
Thought you didn't read it. There you go again, telling things that's not true Wow, wonder who you could have gotten that from?
I didn't read it. I just guessed that's what it was about based on your other posts in this thread. But I'd love to know what lies I've told. Feel free to point them out.
 
I don't know why we would suddenly expect trump supporters to become ashamed of him. They've proven over and over again that literally nothing he says or does could cause that to happen.
Yeah, that's not really the way it works for anyone's hardcore supporters. Trump will be no different.
 
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