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You mean the guy that was supposedly hit in the head with a fire extinguisher but really wasn't and died of a stroke or something according to the coroner's report?
He had two strokes and the day after getting bear/pepper sprayed by a guy three feet from him and fighting back the angry mob. Officially he died in the line of duty.

So what's your point regarding that guy and the ~ 140 injuries cops?

Blue lives matter?
 
He had two strokes and the day after getting bear/pepper sprayed by a guy three feet from him and fighting back the angry mob. Officially he died in the line of duty.

So what's your point regarding that guy and the ~ 140 injuries cops?

Blue lives matter?
Nice to know you have overridden the coroner who said he died of natural causes. And absolutely blue lives matter. Much more than drug dealer/addict, dead beats and the like.
 
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Nice to know you have overridden the coroner who said he died of natural causes. And absolutely blue lives matter. Much more than drug dealer/addict, dead beats and the like.
Stroke IS a natural cause of death! Nice to know you are clueless.

He suffered his first stroke the night of the insurrection, due to blood clot, just 8 hrs after being assaulted and pepper sprayed twice.
 
So is Jared Kushner better at middle-east peace or PPE procurement? Every presidency needs a do-it-all expert like him who can follow the pres's "instincts".
 
I sincerely hope that the results of the forensic audit conclude beyond a shadow of a doubt that the election results were an accurate representation of all legal votes and that there was no significant voter fraud.
The people should feel confident that their votes count and that US elections are honest. Adequate safeguards should be put in place so that it’s easy to vote but hard to cheat.
 
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I sincerely hope that the results of the forensic audit conclude beyond a shadow of a doubt that the election results were an accurate representation of all legal votes and that there was no significant voter fraud.
The people should feel confident that their votes count and that US elections are honest. Adequate safeguards should be put in place so that it’s easy to vote but hard to cheat.
You'll always have people that believe in conspiracy theories no matter what. There are still people that believe the moon landing was faked and the earth is flat.
 
You'll always have people that believe in conspiracy theories no matter what. There are still people that believe the moon landing was faked and the earth is flat.
Reminds me of this meme:



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Add me to the list of the moon landing was faked. No way we were able to make that much technology in such a short amount of time.
 
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Add me to the list of the moon landing was faked. No way we were able to make that much technology in such a short amount of time.
No way WE were able to "make that much technology?" We? Maybe we didn't need you, and then decided not to tell you, and, BOOM! The Eagle has landed!

Next thing they're going to expect us to believe is that human beings built the Pyramids at Giza! Khufu was a free mason, too!
 
No way WE were able to "make that much technology?" We? Maybe we didn't need you, and then decided not to tell you, and, BOOM! The Eagle has landed!

Next thing they're going to expect us to believe is that human beings built the Pyramids at Giza! Khufu was a free mason, too!

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too steep to be the Great Pyramid, plus, that's not his eye....but I applaud the effort anyway.




Why did they fake the moon-landing? What was gained by faking it?
seriously? In the name of world dominance, we were in a race with the Soviets to be the first and you have to ask what would be gained by faking it? Just for clarity, I'm not saying they faked it.
 
Why did they fake the moon-landing? What was gained by faking it?
Actually a lot. But it obviously wasn’t fake.

Coincidentally enough Reagan’s Star Wars, which was for the most part fake and a good waste of 30B, was one of the final straws that broke the Soviet’s backs. They knew they couldn’t keep up funding that type of technology.
 
Actually a lot. But it obviously wasn’t fake.

Coincidentally enough Reagan’s Star Wars, which was for the most part fake and a good waste of 30B, was one of the final straws that broke the Soviet’s backs. They knew they couldn’t keep up funding that type of technology.
I think 30 billion to bankrupt the soviet union was a good investment. Honestly, what do they bring to the table?
 
I think 30 billion to bankrupt the soviet union was a good investment. Honestly, what do they bring to the table?
Yeah that’s certainly a way to look at it, but everything I’ve studied makes me think they would have folded anyway. Without getting into a long “why did the USSR collapse” discussion, they were splintering from the inside and their economy was a freaking disaster by the mid 80s. They were finished with or without the fear of Star Wars. But it probably just helped speed up that process a bit.
 
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Yeah that’s certainly a way to look at it, but everything I’ve studied makes me think they would have folded anyway. Without getting into a long “why did the USSR collapse” discussion, they were splintering from the inside and their economy was a freaking disaster by the mid 80s. They were finished with or without the fear of Star Wars. But it probably just helped speed up that process a bit.
So we agree, less USSR is a good thing. Again, what do they really bring to the table? Outside of end of days weapons?
 
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So we agree, less USSR is a good thing. Again, what do they really bring to the table? Outside of end of days weapons?
I've been saying since the days of the collapse, that what they provided was a necessary foil against which democracy and the ideal thereof was enhanced. Without this foil, we have seen our ideals of freedom...particularly individual freedom...degraded, and we have moved strongly toward a more socialistic existence. In other words, the Soviet Union made more inroads against us by failing than they ever hoped to do by succeeding; because the dimwits among us can't grasp the relationship between individual freedom and collective success, and because of the natural, mindless sentiment of liberal morons that everyone should have the same, even if that means having nothing.

Reagan gets credit for the collapse, but the Afghanistan fiasco was really what broke the back...and Carter was who made things tough for the Soviets by supporting the Soviet opposition in Afghanistan, the Mujahideen. Reagan carried on the policy and built it up, but only after seeing how successfully the Soviets could be frustrated by well-supported guerilla tactics. For my part, I would restore the USSR minus its domination of those countries that would choose sovereignty over a Soviet umbrella. It was good for us.

I also said that the USSR was really a shell for Russian nationalism. I was right. Now that we no longer have the USSR to kick around, we have Russia to kick Biden around.
 
I've been saying since the days of the collapse, that what they provided was a necessary foil against which democracy and the ideal thereof was enhanced. Without this foil, we have seen our ideals of freedom...particularly individual freedom...degraded, and we have moved strongly toward a more socialistic existence. In other words, the Soviet Union made more inroads against us by failing than they ever hoped to do by succeeding; because the dimwits among us can't grasp the relationship between individual freedom and collective success, and because of the natural, mindless sentiment of liberal morons that everyone should have the same, even if that means having nothing.

Reagan gets credit for the collapse, but the Afghanistan fiasco was really what broke the back...and Carter was who made things tough for the Soviets by supporting the Soviet opposition in Afghanistan, the Mujahideen. Reagan carried on the policy and built it up, but only after seeing how successfully the Soviets could be frustrated by well-supported guerilla tactics. For my part, I would restore the USSR minus its domination of those countries that would choose sovereignty over a Soviet umbrella. It was good for us.

I also said that the USSR was really a shell for Russian nationalism. I was right. Now that we no longer have the USSR to kick around, we have Russia to kick Biden around.
Very well said.

People being supported in part by Osama bin Laden helping us "win" the Cold War is the definition of irony. Also, the Soviets are idiots for not learning from our disaster in Vietnam...Afghanistan was their Vietnam, they just weren't strong enough to recover from their mistake like we did with ours.
 
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