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Dims can dish it out but they can’t take it. No wonder they need safe spaces.
Let's make smallpox and polio great again!
Definitely a troll pick by Trump. I'm assuming all the people who said RFK wasn't coming out in support of Trump for a spot in Trump's administration will admit they were wrong.
A troll pick... for the director of HHS. America is going to be so great. I hope Hulk Hogan and Kid Rock get in there somehow. Idiocracy come to life.
Yeah, Mayorkas did a bang up job in his roll and I'm pretty sure Becerra has the same law background as Kennedy.
It's definitely dumb, but most of these picks don't really matter. Anything dumb they can do can either be fixed quickly or has no meaningful impact. The ones that bother me are the military and intelligence positions. Those are positions that can **** up the country for decades.
Serious question. I've seen the trolling above about RFK in general and the implication he wants diseases such as polio to be allowed to again attack our populace. In these very same pages, I have talked about his oddities and weirdness factor with regard to the whole bear in Central Park thing. However, other than him not playing ball by supporting Biden and choosing to primary him, then go independent, what has he really done or said that makes you so dismissive of him?
And, just to be clear, I'm not referring to the general campaign talking point claims of things like he is anti-vaccine, etc. That's no different from claiming orange is a racist because he talked about very fine people who are white supremacists - a media fabrication. He is definitely an odd duck, but that doesn't make him wrong about the relationship between big pharma/big agriculture and our health and food. @blazers and I had a discussion about this awhile back where it had been pointed out that the pesticide levels in UK food were way too high, particularly compared to the rest of Europe which had resulted after their withdrawal from the EU who has different standards. How is this type of look at this stuff and the perspective of questioning what we are putting into our bodies not a good thing? Crazy or not.
One last thing, I recognize that he is persona non grata for the D's and anyone who supports them at this point, but RFK was one of the finalists for Obama's cabinet and almost got appointed as head of the FDA. Am I supposed to believe he just went bat shit after he didn't get appointed?
And, just to be clear, I'm not referring to the general campaign talking point claims of things like he is anti-vaccine, etc. That's no different from claiming orange is a racist because he talked about very fine people who are white supremacists - a media fabrication. He is definitely an odd duck, but that doesn't make him wrong about the relationship between big pharma/big agriculture and our health and food. @blazers and I had a discussion about this awhile back where it had been pointed out that the pesticide levels in UK food were way too high, particularly compared to the rest of Europe which had resulted after their withdrawal from the EU who has different standards. How is this type of look at this stuff and the perspective of questioning what we are putting into our bodies not a good thing? Crazy or not.
One last thing, I recognize that he is persona non grata for the D's and anyone who supports them at this point, but RFK was one of the finalists for Obama's cabinet and almost got appointed as head of the FDA. Am I supposed to believe he just went bat shit after he didn't get appointed?
Just who in the hell do these 2b women think they are? No one wants to breed most of them anyway. They are doing us a favor, creating less liberals.
He might claim he isn't anti-vaxx, but he walks and talks like someone anti-vaxx. This isn't media fabrication.
I love the angle that RFK would attack big pharma and the food industrial complex.
It's funny that Trump and proj25 have been running on anti-regulation, but you have an RFK who wants to regulate, but I like the push & pull and checks & balances that could find a happy medium for strong economy without poisons in our food and bodies.
I'd love to ban pesticides, i'd love to ban ultraprocessed foods. It would be a healthier America - but those moves could drastically F up America's food chain at the same time. It needs to be done in a phased, smart manner. Good luck on that part, but he needs to stay away from proven vaccines.
Oh, @pooponduke other reason people think he's cranky is the environment stuff. He's extreme. He wants to shut-down nuclear power plants, despite this yielding more fossil fuels. He wants to jail the Koch Bros for being climate deniers - literally at the Hague with war criminals. But then had some other weird things to say regarding climate sci. He's kinda all over the place... seems a bit crazy.
Applauds that all his kids have been vaxxed, but is glued to the autism thing and wants to pause vaccine industry entirely.
Oh, and tied Bill Gates to covid vaxx profits and pushed the 5G stuff. He's a nut. There's a soundclip from an interview: "Today, the mechanisms are being put in place that will make it so none of us can run and none of us can hide. They're putting in 5G to harvest our data and control our behaviour, digital currency that will allow them to punish us from a distance and cut off our food supply."
There are tons of people in America who want to cleanup big pharma and the food industrial complex who are probably just as qualified, but less schizo.
Applauds that all his kids have been vaxxed, but is glued to the autism thing and wants to pause vaccine industry entirely.
Oh, and tied Bill Gates to covid vaxx profits and pushed the 5G stuff. He's a nut. There's a soundclip from an interview: "Today, the mechanisms are being put in place that will make it so none of us can run and none of us can hide. They're putting in 5G to harvest our data and control our behaviour, digital currency that will allow them to punish us from a distance and cut off our food supply."
There are tons of people in America who want to cleanup big pharma and the food industrial complex who are probably just as qualified, but less schizo.
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@pooponduke sorry for more. Kennedy is kinda fascinating given his populist appeal and his "quirks", and the fact that he's winding up in administrative that "conservatives" voted for.
I was just googling for some sound-clips from Kennedy in case the above blurb is too short. Listen to him on Rogan. He truly believes autism is caused by vaccines, and he's wrong. There are problems with Big pharma in terms of profits, there are times when vaccines can be harmful (MORE REGULATION here would be a good thing), and to his point Big pharma shouldn't be doing the regulation, some neutral org should (but this means MORE gov). But they don't cause autism. They are more helpful than harmful.
While googling i was reminded that he STILL believes Lee Harvey Oswald was CIA and moreso believes there is good evidence the CIA murdered his father. Blames the military industrial complex for killing them both. He's looney.
I was just googling for some sound-clips from Kennedy in case the above blurb is too short. Listen to him on Rogan. He truly believes autism is caused by vaccines, and he's wrong. There are problems with Big pharma in terms of profits, there are times when vaccines can be harmful (MORE REGULATION here would be a good thing), and to his point Big pharma shouldn't be doing the regulation, some neutral org should (but this means MORE gov). But they don't cause autism. They are more helpful than harmful.
While googling i was reminded that he STILL believes Lee Harvey Oswald was CIA and moreso believes there is good evidence the CIA murdered his father. Blames the military industrial complex for killing them both. He's looney.
We can coast unless something extraordinary occurs like wars, pandemics, some systemic crash, then you learn if your leaders are good at governing or trolling.
**** up the country for decades is just liberal speak for runs like a top. America voted for it, overwhelmingly.
Trolling is fine. Just don't let trans people get me. When COVID-19 hit, Trump shit his pants. But, he could still troll.
thank you, I was going to post something similar after watching a Russel Brand video on the subject of how the left treats this particular subject and some other video on how they treat any other subject not aligned with whatever it is that they are aligned with.. Basically they both say that only the superficial is attacked while the core is ignored. I then watched a John Oliver loserific episode on youtube that bore this out exactly.
I won't try to predict his effectiveness or his thrust, but to dismiss him based on absolutely nothing but anecdotal bullshit is just lefty resentment and typical lib snottiness. If you actually check him out, there is no reason to think he wasn't a pretty good choice.
and here we go. Somebody made a profit so let's put them in the crosshairs. There is no problem with the profits. They are just as entitled to making a profit as is the the kid on the corner lemonade stand. And it isn't up to you how much profit they make, unless you use the marketplace to send your little message.
As you pointed out but fairly well dismissed, the problem, assuming there is one, is with the regulation. This is a good example of draining the swamp or at least attempting to do so. One of the recent videos I watched said that of the past number of top administrators of the FDA (IIRC), something like 12 out of 13 ended up with fat jobs with pharmas. I might not be remembering that exactly but I'm close enough to establish the validity of the point.
there is no need to ban pesticides. There is a need to use them judiciously, and that doesn't mean simply establishing regulations to be largely ignored.
But c'mon man, you're worried about disrupting the food chain that is making us unhealthy? Get a grip. With what we do with processing our massive food production, we might as well just eat gruel anyway. Maybe disrupting the food chain will return us to food with natural freshness and flavor...and health.
There's never any coasting when it comes to the military and intelligence.
crazy isn't it? They shove the trans in our faces non-stop and then complain that we focus on the trans.
Tell it to RFK
If you tried to suddenly ditch unprocessed food we'd likely have a financial shock, followed by something like a famine.
Okay... now, you gotta know that what you're saying is SO subjective! That's not an answer or solution. "Of sound mind?" There's certainly not a consensus on what that even is, let alone getting them to be in charge.
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I noticed you didn't quote the whole thing and cut off the most important part.
You really don't know how military actions/inactions/policy and intelligence gathering/relationships can **** up stuff long term? For example, we do something to piss off our allies in the intelligence community and they stop sharing intelligence. You think you can just flip a switch and fix that?
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