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To those saying Trump will never get his nominees confirmed, interesting opinion piece in Politico from someone who isn't exactly Orange friendly. Highlights:

“The last time a nominee was rejected on the floor of the Senate was in 1989.”
“Trump has consistently demonstrated his capacity to intimidate Republican legislators into doing his bidding.”
“[T]he Republican majority in the next Senate is wholly different from the majority Trump faced in his first term…”

https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...6b83-75a8-486b-9b08-3fe1d6a16220&nlid=2758340
Given how spineless repubs have become i expect very little friction.
 
I'd love to get away from the two party system. It's a paradox - not many people will vote for a 3rd/no party candidate that doesn't have a chance, and 3rd/no party candidates will never have a chance if not many people are willing to vote for them.

There's no way you believed whoever you voted for had a chance to get even 0.5% of the vote, right? If we could get some version of ranked choice voting then other candidates would be viable. I'd like to see that happen and would almost certainly have a non D or R as my top choice, but until then I see it as a waste. I don't believe that it proves some point, but some do.
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Tightest margin of victory since Gore-Bush? This was a bigger blowout than either of the prior two Trump elections and Bush-Kerry.
I wasn't talking about EC, but apparently just a few hundred votes going the other way across 3 states would have flipped EC to Harris.

I kinda feel Americans deserve what's coming to them, for letting Trump win, but then I see it was less 50% asking for him, so kinda feel bad for the majority. But not really.
 
I wasn't talking about EC, but apparently just a few hundred votes going the other way across 3 states would have flipped EC to Harris.

I kinda feel Americans deserve what's coming to them, for letting Trump win, but then I see it was less 50% asking for him, so kinda feel bad for the majority. But not really.
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I wasn't talking about EC, but apparently just a few hundred votes going the other way across 3 states would have flipped EC to Harris.

I kinda feel Americans deserve what's coming to them, for letting Trump win, but then I see it was less 50% asking for him, so kinda feel bad for the majority. But not really.
Harris got thumped, though. The Democrats are so inept. They have got to be the MOST inept. When you look at what Trump did after he lost in 2020, and the January 6th riot. It's inconceivable that Donald Trump could ever be on a ballot, much less elected president AGAIN! But, leave it to the Democrats to prove that it can be done! I'm not giving Republicans total immunity... they overwhelmingly nominated him. But, that's no surprise. That's expected. Their candidate gets convicted of a felony, they dig-in behind him. The Democrats have an incumbent that has a bad debate, and they tar-and-feather the bastard 3 months before the election and get the VP as their nominee. They throw trillions of dollars at her campaign, and they STILL lose.

I do agree with deserving what's coming. Trump proved in 2020 that when things get rough, he just pretends everything is okay and it will go away.
 
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Harris got thumped, though. The Democrats are so inept. They have got to be the MOST inept. When you look at what Trump did after he lost in 2020, and the January 6th riot. It's inconceivable that Donald Trump could ever be on a ballot, much less elected president AGAIN! But, leave it to the Democrats to prove that it can be done! I'm not giving Republicans total immunity... they overwhelmingly nominated him. But, that's no surprise. That's expected. Their candidate gets convicted of a felony, they dig-in behind him. The Democrats have an incumbent that has a bad debate, and they tar-and-feather the bastard 3 months before the election and get the VP as their nominee. They throw trillions of dollars at her campaign, and they STILL lose.

I do agree with deserving what's coming. Trump proved in 2020 that when things get rough, he just pretends everything is okay and it will go away.
just because you and your ilk created mass hysteria over little doesn't mean that the more level-headed don't want to distance themselves from such childishness rather than mindlessly get sucked into it.

When you simply step back and truly see what Trump was running against, it shouldn't be inconceivable to anyone that even (fill in the blank___________) might get elected against her. I know I would have inked him or her or what in. The inconceivable thing to me is that the dem waste product got as much support as she did. The sheep keep sheepin' though..
 
Lol that his has to be asked. What a cluster.

And so funny that people think this is Trump testing loyalty of repubs, or setting up some alternative candidate, or doing something to give Gaetz an easy out.
This is an interesting question in light of Gaetz withdrawing. I've heard he is an option to replace Rubio in the Senate because Floridians apparently love the guy. Can you imagine the PIA he'll be to those that were raising the biggest stink if that happened?
 
just because you and your ilk created mass hysteria over little doesn't mean that the more level-headed don't want to distance themselves from such childishness rather than mindlessly get sucked into it.

When you simply step back and truly see what Trump was running against, it shouldn't be inconceivable to anyone that even (fill in the blank___________) might get elected against her. I know I would have inked him or her or what in. The inconceivable thing to me is that the dem waste product got as much support as she did. The sheep keep sheepin' though..
My "ilk." God, you are so pretentious.

MAGA cult members vandalized the US Capitol and tried to violently stop the US Congress from its job. You see it as storming the Bastille. Or, even better... they were picnicking when Antifa forced them to get violent.
 
This is an interesting question in light of Gaetz withdrawing. I've heard he is an option to replace Rubio in the Senate because Floridians apparently love the guy. Can you imagine the PIA he'll be to those that were raising the biggest stink if that happened?
I've wondered the exact same thing.
 
You've just dethroned @bluetoe . At least I may well be correct.
Just because you've got no legitimate response to and can't point to a flaw in anything I stated, you change the subject to the length of my post. However, it doesn't change that: a) I'm right; b) you're not anywhere close to Switzerland, and; c) you have absolutely no basis to opine that Fox is the worst peddler of propaganda. But, a man's got a right to an opinion, I guess.
 
Dems in Bucks Co., Pa have been showing their true colors as of late.
My BIL and SIL live there. They have lost their freaking minds over all this. She has even served as the union rep for the middle school where she works. They've literally cancelled their normal Thanksgiving/Christmas get togethers for over half the family. I find it all very sad.
 
Just because you've got no legitimate response to and can't point to a flaw in anything I stated, you change the subject to the length of my post. However, it doesn't change that: a) I'm right; b) you're not anywhere close to Switzerland, and; c) you have absolutely no basis to opine that Fox is the worst peddler of propaganda. But, a man's got a right to an opinion, I guess.
Opine??? JFC... Who are you, George Templeton Strong or some shit. Thanks for keeping it short and sweet... oops... I mean confectionery.

Fox News is heavily biased that it's essentially propaganda. It's easy to rationalize it when you watch it all the time and believe it to be truth.
 
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I wasn't talking about EC, but apparently just a few hundred votes going the other way across 3 states would have flipped EC to Harris.

I kinda feel Americans deserve what's coming to them, for letting Trump win, but then I see it was less 50% asking for him, so kinda feel bad for the majority. But not really.
I get your point that some of this in terms of real margin of victory can be deceiving, but I see the conclusion differently. Thank God Americans are gonna get what's coming to them and not the much less desirable alternative that was presented. D's have gotten what they asked "for letting Trump win". @strummingram is right about the election in terms of the D's could have run almost anyone competent and likely have beaten Trump after all the crap that was dumped on him, whether it was deserved or not. If he was a threat to democracy and all the other catchy slogans used, the D's shit the bed by running Biden and then Harris. Why on earth would they not have put up a good candidate and sent Donald out to pasture forever? Instead. . . . . .
 
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Opine??? JFC... Who are you, George Templeton Strong or some shit. Thanks for keeping it short and sweet... oops... I mean confectionery.

Fox News is heavily biased that it's essentially propaganda. It's easy to rationalize it when you watch it all the time and believe it to be truth.
I had to look the guy up. I'm shocked that you'd reference some dude who wrote in his 40 year diary detailing things like the Civil War. Lol.
 
My "ilk." God, you are so pretentious.

MAGA cult members vandalized the US Capitol and tried to violently stop the US Congress from its job. You see it as storming the Bastille. Or, even better... they were picnicking when Antifa forced them to get violent.
no, I see them as being pissed off at the state of things and letting their anger get out of control. Certainly no worse in terms of violence and destruction than the antifa/blm riots and actually much more justified. That is the simple reality of what happened. Nothing more and nothing less. They weren't trying to overthrow the government and take over the country or any other such insanity and Trump was NOT at the head of a torch and pitchfork carrying mob intent on making things right. Like I said, you're just a gullible, hysterical stooge who wants us all to believe that you're the only one who has a grip on it all. In actuality, you're the one who most needs to get a grip on reality.

And now you're intimidated by THREE letter words. How pretentious of me to punish you with such little words. But you said I was pretentious for using the big words also. I'm sorry for having a good vocabulary full of...words of all sizes. Would it help keep you calm if I posted in morse code from now on?
 
I had to look the guy up. I'm shocked that you'd reference some dude who wrote in his 40 year diary detailing things like the Civil War. Lol.
LMAO. He whines about your 'pretentiousness' in using the normal word 'opine', and then throws some obscure name at you that no one has ever heard of.

And just as funny is to see him deny hiding behind tl;dr and inane responses when he has no answer.
 
I had to look the guy up. I'm shocked that you'd reference some dude who wrote in his 40 year diary detailing things like the Civil War. Lol.
Of course you had to look him up. You and pretentious @bluetoe ... no one says "ilk" and "opine" in regular speaking dialogue. Trying to make yourself sound more intelligent than you are-- that's pretentious. The only time I've even heard "ilk" was on The Simpsons... spoken by the 127-year-old C. Montgomery Burns in a deliberate attempt to joke about it being obsolete, or reserved for high society social status. I doubt you even heard Norman Mailer, or Gore Vidal or William F. Buckley dropping goofy-ass 19th Century terms like "opine."
 
Just because you've got no legitimate response to and can't point to a flaw in anything I stated, you change the subject to the length of my post. However, it doesn't change that: a) I'm right; b) you're not anywhere close to Switzerland, and; c) you have absolutely no basis to opine that Fox is the worst peddler of propaganda. But, a man's got a right to an opinion, I guess.
I don't have any retort (or flaw) to point-out because I'm not reading a long-winded novel based on your opinions. It's hardly a stretch to say that Fox News (and MSNBC) are heavily-biased, propaganda media sources. I don't even watch the satire anymore. After the election, I turned it ALL OFF! A few things creep through on front page email outlets (yahoo, etc.). But, once you click "not interested", the algorithms listen an respond.

And, this board leans so far right that of course I come across as left-leaning. The only "liberal" on here is @What Would Jesus Do? ... that's it. One guy that shows up rarely. Ask him how I was perceived on the HROT board. It sure as hell wasn't liberal. But, that board has probably 10 times more people. It was 50/50 there.
 
Is he the perv?

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Several are pervs. They are whining about bathrooms and some tiny fraction of the population being gender-confused while being actual sexual-predators and/or trying to promote and protect sexual predators. Need to get the priorities in the right order.

Look at all trannies and murderous immigrants while ignoring facts about me!
 
Harris got thumped, though. The Democrats are so inept. They have got to be the MOST inept. When you look at what Trump did after he lost in 2020, and the January 6th riot. It's inconceivable that Donald Trump could ever be on a ballot, much less elected president AGAIN! But, leave it to the Democrats to prove that it can be done! I'm not giving Republicans total immunity... they overwhelmingly nominated him. But, that's no surprise. That's expected. Their candidate gets convicted of a felony, they dig-in behind him. The Democrats have an incumbent that has a bad debate, and they tar-and-feather the bastard 3 months before the election and get the VP as their nominee. They throw trillions of dollars at her campaign, and they STILL lose.

I do agree with deserving what's coming. Trump proved in 2020 that when things get rough, he just pretends everything is okay and it will go away.
Thumped only in terms of EC. And yeah, Biden not stepping aside long ago, then not coming up w someone better than Kamala is pure Dem incompetence.

They'll likely have a pathetic answer for 2028 on hopes that the incumbent party will automatically be disadvantaged.
 
Several are pervs. They are whining about bathrooms and some tiny fraction of the population being gender-confused while being actual sexual-predators and/or trying to promote and protect sexual predators. Need to get the priorities in the right order.

Look at all trannies and murderous immigrants while ignoring facts about me!
Awww... come on. Raping women isn't so bad. If they're really hot, they were kind of asking for it, right? That's the Trump excuse for E. Jean Carroll, of course- she's not that hot looking, so there's no way I raped her!

I think MAGA actually sorta clings to the older patriarchy privilege of men getting to do what they want to women. Women are subservient to men. It's in the Bible. Not all of them, not all the time. It's not printed in the MAGA Manual. Just a general vibe. They'd have to be okay with it on some level when you see MAGA women walk around with shirts inviting men (especially Trump) to grab them by the pu$$y.
 
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