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My sister is the mayor of a very small town in NY. All but one of the city council members are Dims. Yet she is determined to get him removed from the council. She graduated from UNC with almost straight A’s. She moved to NYC right after graduating and married a born and bred New Yorker. That’s the only reason I can find for her decline into liberalism.
If only it were just "liberalism," right? Most former liberals are unrecognizable now in their ideologies and politics. Just some wild mix of group think, Jim Jones style brainwashing, leftism, communism and corporatism, aka fascism but that last point only to the degree they dictate and control corporate America.

War mongers too. Child groomers and abusers and though most personally don't do it, they near salivate in their support of it.

Just incredible to see what's happened to thee people.
 
My sister is the mayor of a very small town in NY. All but one of the city council members are Dims. Yet she is determined to get him removed from the council. She graduated from UNC with almost straight A’s. She moved to NYC right after graduating and married a born and bred New Yorker. That’s the only reason I can find for her decline into liberalism.
lol. Yes, environmental factors can heavily influence us. My younger brother is in a small town that's politically speaking only slightly more 'progressive' than Attila the Hun was. He represents it well. He doesn't get invited to my sister's for Thanksgiving.

I've posted before about when my sister became aware that I would vote for Trump part 1, she asked me how could I vote for such a morally depraved person as Trump (solely because of his 'grab 'em by the pussy remark) when I cared about her girls so much (as if his presidency would pose some sort of threat to them).

How do you argue with that, when the other person is voting for Hillary Clinton? She's the woman who boasted to a reporter (and laughed about) having gotten a guilty child rapist (actual rape, not just statutory) off in her first court case as a young lawyer, and who later threw Bill's rape accusers under the bus when their accusations of sexual assault were threatening to disrupt their political ambitions? You remember Bill, right? He's the president who Hillary stood by even after it was revealed that he was sticking cigars in the twat of a much younger intern in the White House. And you fear moral depravity? I pointed these things out to her and heard nothing but crickets in return.

I would leave any lady or young girl I cared about alone with Donald Trump about 1000 times faster than I would have with Bill Clinton, but still I would vote for who I thought would be a better president. And even in that regard, Trump was the one who was honest.

Common sense just doesn't figure in with libthink..
 
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lol. Yes, environmental factors can heavily influence us. My younger brother is in a small town that's politically speaking only slightly more 'progressive' than Attila the Hun was. He represents it well. He doesn't get invited to my sister's for Thanksgiving.

I've posted before about when my sister became aware that I would vote for Trump part 1, she asked me how could I vote for such a morally depraved person as Trump (solely because of his 'grab 'em by the pussy remark) when I cared about her girls so much (as if his presidency would pose some sort of threat to them).

How do you argue with that, when the other person is voting for Hillary Clinton? She's the woman who boasted to a reporter (and laughed about) having gotten a guilty child rapist (actual rape, not just statutory) off in her first court case as a young lawyer, and who later threw Bill's rape accusers under the bus when their accusations of sexual assault were threatening to disrupt their political ambitions? You remember Bill, right? He's the president who Hillary stood by even after it was revealed that he was sticking cigars in the twat of a much younger intern in the White House. And you fear moral depravity? I pointed these things out to her and heard nothing but crickets in return.

I would leave any lady or young girl I cared about alone with Donald Trump about 1000 times faster than I would have with Bill Clinton, but still I would vote for who I thought would be a better president. And even in that regard, Trump was the one who was honest.

Common sense just doesn't figure in with libthink..
One's behavior and wrongdoing doesn't just apply when it happens to have been committed by a member of the enemy political party. If Clinton or Barry had made the very same remark as The Donald, your SIL would undoubtedly have excused it away as a joke, guys bragging trying to one up the other, or some other such justification. It was wrong when he said it and it's wrong today. However, I'd like to point out that regardless of how disgusting and absolutely improper something is, what orange stated wasn't a lie. Rich and powerful people get away with all kinds of improper and inappropriate behavior and the "victim" of it often voluntarily submits as part of the process. Look at the infamous "casting couch" scenario that has existed forever in the entertainment industry. None of that makes it right or even ok, but we'd be fools if we didn't admit to such things taking place. I'd be interested in hearing your SIL's take on Trump's statement versus the "stories" of KH orally rising to higher offices. It's not a one-way or one party street to the moral high ground.
 
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lol. Yes, environmental factors can heavily influence us. My younger brother is in a small town that's politically speaking only slightly more 'progressive' than Attila the Hun was. He represents it well. He doesn't get invited to my sister's for Thanksgiving.

I've posted before about when my sister became aware that I would vote for Trump part 1, she asked me how could I vote for such a morally depraved person as Trump (solely because of his 'grab 'em by the pussy remark) when I cared about her girls so much (as if his presidency would pose some sort of threat to them).

How do you argue with that, when the other person is voting for Hillary Clinton? She's the woman who boasted to a reporter (and laughed about) having gotten a guilty child rapist (actual rape, not just statutory) off in her first court case as a young lawyer, and who later threw Bill's rape accusers under the bus when their accusations of sexual assault were threatening to disrupt their political ambitions? You remember Bill, right? He's the president who Hillary stood by even after it was revealed that he was sticking cigars in the twat of a much younger intern in the White House. And you fear moral depravity? I pointed these things out to her and heard nothing but crickets in return.

I would leave any lady or young girl I cared about alone with Donald Trump about 1000 times faster than I would have with Bill Clinton, but still I would vote for who I thought would be a better president. And even in that regard, Trump was the one who was honest.

Common sense just doesn't figure in with libthink..
Hope she's not the type to gender bender a child so she can virtue signal on how she has a trans-child, but maybe they are too old for that and missed that.
 
However, I'd like to point out that regardless of how disgusting and absolutely improper something is, what orange stated wasn't a lie. Rich and powerful people get away with all kinds of improper and inappropriate behavior and the "victim" of it often voluntarily submits as part of the process. Look at the infamous "casting couch" scenario that has existed forever in the entertainment industry. None of that makes it right or even ok, but we'd be fools if we didn't admit to such things taking place.
I posted the same thing before. This kind of stuff happens all the time, which doesn't make it right but also doesn't make it extraordinary. Rich and powerful people act as if they are rich and powerful. People in positions of authority allow that authority to improperly coerce compliance. And those who deal with them often do so willingly or at least with little or no resistance or complaint. When Trump's remark was reported, my response was 'and?'. I was more impressed with his candor than put off by what he was suggesting, although of course I knew it wasn't a proper thing he was admitting to.

Many 'victims' at the time might take it in stride or even laugh about it with friends, but then jump on the bandwagon of accusation when other voices compel them to see it in a different light, or to know it might have some sociopolitical impact. That's just as questionable as was the original imposition on them. And I'm fully aware that those who dare complain at the time might end up getting the shaft in a different way, but going along in order to achieve some goal or maintain the status quo is also wrong and also far from extraordinary.

I would love to know how many Hollywood types went along with Harvey Weinstein's creepy requests in order to get a part in a movie but are not about to say that they did. The liberal thinking is that there is a victim in that because what was required to get that part was improper. I say that if it was improper...and it was....then going along was also just as improper. No one said that that part had to be gotten and that actress had to be in that movie. No one was holding a gun to someone's head. A morality choice was freely made by both parties. I would view both as equally morally bankrupt but neither guilty of a crime.
 
Hope she's not the type to gender bender a child so she can virtue signal on how she has a trans-child, but maybe they are too old for that and missed that.
I wouldn't be overly concerned with what type she is. She's a liberal, that's all..

That being said, my mother didn't raise any fools. If one of her kids was a trans, she...and I...would love her just as much. We wouldn't be staging any parades to celebrate it.
 
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