OOTB's Political Thread . ..

[randman1]

My sister is the mayor of a very small town in NY. All but one of the city council members are Dims. Yet she is determined to get him removed from the council. She graduated from UNC with almost straight A’s. She moved to NYC right after graduating and married a born and bred New Yorker. That’s the only reason I can find for her decline into liberalism.

If only it were just "liberalism," right? Most former liberals are unrecognizable now in their ideologies and politics. Just some wild mix of group think, Jim Jones style brainwashing, leftism, communism and corporatism, aka fascism but that last point only to the degree they dictate and control corporate America.

War mongers too. Child groomers and abusers and though most personally don't do it, they near salivate in their support of it.

Just incredible to see what's happened to thee people.

 

[bluetoe]

My sister is the mayor of a very small town in NY. All but one of the city council members are Dims. Yet she is determined to get him removed from the council. She graduated from UNC with almost straight A’s. She moved to NYC right after graduating and married a born and bred New Yorker. That’s the only reason I can find for her decline into liberalism.

lol. Yes, environmental factors can heavily influence us. My younger brother is in a small town that's politically speaking only slightly more 'progressive' than Attila the Hun was. He represents it well. He doesn't get invited to my sister's for Thanksgiving.

I've posted before about when my sister became aware that I would vote for Trump part 1, she asked me how could I vote for such a morally depraved person as Trump (solely because of his 'grab 'em by the pussy remark) when I cared about her girls so much (as if his presidency would pose some sort of threat to them).

How do you argue with that, when the other person is voting for Hillary Clinton? She's the woman who boasted to a reporter (and laughed about) having gotten a guilty child rapist (actual rape, not just statutory) off in her first court case as a young lawyer, and who later threw Bill's rape accusers under the bus when their accusations of sexual assault were threatening to disrupt their political ambitions? You remember Bill, right? He's the president who Hillary stood by even after it was revealed that he was sticking cigars in the twat of a much younger intern in the White House. And you fear moral depravity? I pointed these things out to her and heard nothing but crickets in return.

I would leave any lady or young girl I cared about alone with Donald Trump about 1000 times faster than I would have with Bill Clinton, but still I would vote for who I thought would be a better president. And even in that regard, Trump was the one who was honest.

Common sense just doesn't figure in with libthink..

 

[pooponduke]

lol. Yes, environmental factors can heavily influence us. My younger brother is in a small town that's politically speaking only slightly more 'progressive' than Attila the Hun was. He represents it well. He doesn't get invited to my sister's for Thanksgiving.

I've posted before about when my sister became aware that I would vote for Trump part 1, she asked me how could I vote for such a morally depraved person as Trump (solely because of his 'grab 'em by the pussy remark) when I cared about her girls so much (as if his presidency would pose some sort of threat to them).

How do you argue with that, when the other person is voting for Hillary Clinton? She's the woman who boasted to a reporter (and laughed about) having gotten a guilty child rapist (actual rape, not just statutory) off in her first court case as a young lawyer, and who later threw Bill's rape accusers under the bus when their accusations of sexual assault were threatening to disrupt their political ambitions? You remember Bill, right? He's the president who Hillary stood by even after it was revealed that he was sticking cigars in the twat of a much younger intern in the White House. And you fear moral depravity? I pointed these things out to her and heard nothing but crickets in return.

I would leave any lady or young girl I cared about alone with Donald Trump about 1000 times faster than I would have with Bill Clinton, but still I would vote for who I thought would be a better president. And even in that regard, Trump was the one who was honest.

Common sense just doesn't figure in with libthink..

One's behavior and wrongdoing doesn't just apply when it happens to have been committed by a member of the enemy political party. If Clinton or Barry had made the very same remark as The Donald, your SIL would undoubtedly have excused it away as a joke, guys bragging trying to one up the other, or some other such justification. It was wrong when he said it and it's wrong today. However, I'd like to point out that regardless of how disgusting and absolutely improper something is, what orange stated wasn't a lie. Rich and powerful people get away with all kinds of improper and inappropriate behavior and the "victim" of it often voluntarily submits as part of the process. Look at the infamous "casting couch" scenario that has existed forever in the entertainment industry. None of that makes it right or even ok, but we'd be fools if we didn't admit to such things taking place. I'd be interested in hearing your SIL's take on Trump's statement versus the "stories" of KH orally rising to higher offices. It's not a one-way or one party street to the moral high ground.

 

[randman1]

lol. Yes, environmental factors can heavily influence us. My younger brother is in a small town that's politically speaking only slightly more 'progressive' than Attila the Hun was. He represents it well. He doesn't get invited to my sister's for Thanksgiving.

I've posted before about when my sister became aware that I would vote for Trump part 1, she asked me how could I vote for such a morally depraved person as Trump (solely because of his 'grab 'em by the pussy remark) when I cared about her girls so much (as if his presidency would pose some sort of threat to them).

How do you argue with that, when the other person is voting for Hillary Clinton? She's the woman who boasted to a reporter (and laughed about) having gotten a guilty child rapist (actual rape, not just statutory) off in her first court case as a young lawyer, and who later threw Bill's rape accusers under the bus when their accusations of sexual assault were threatening to disrupt their political ambitions? You remember Bill, right? He's the president who Hillary stood by even after it was revealed that he was sticking cigars in the twat of a much younger intern in the White House. And you fear moral depravity? I pointed these things out to her and heard nothing but crickets in return.

I would leave any lady or young girl I cared about alone with Donald Trump about 1000 times faster than I would have with Bill Clinton, but still I would vote for who I thought would be a better president. And even in that regard, Trump was the one who was honest.

Common sense just doesn't figure in with libthink..

Hope she's not the type to gender bender a child so she can virtue signal on how she has a trans-child, but maybe they are too old for that and missed that.

 

[bluetoe]

However, I'd like to point out that regardless of how disgusting and absolutely improper something is, what orange stated wasn't a lie. Rich and powerful people get away with all kinds of improper and inappropriate behavior and the "victim" of it often voluntarily submits as part of the process. Look at the infamous "casting couch" scenario that has existed forever in the entertainment industry. None of that makes it right or even ok, but we'd be fools if we didn't admit to such things taking place.

I posted the same thing before. This kind of stuff happens all the time, which doesn't make it right but also doesn't make it extraordinary. Rich and powerful people act as if they are rich and powerful. People in positions of authority allow that authority to improperly coerce compliance. And those who deal with them often do so willingly or at least with little or no resistance or complaint. When Trump's remark was reported, my response was 'and?'. I was more impressed with his candor than put off by what he was suggesting, although of course I knew it wasn't a proper thing he was admitting to.

Many 'victims' at the time might take it in stride or even laugh about it with friends, but then jump on the bandwagon of accusation when other voices compel them to see it in a different light, or to know it might have some sociopolitical impact. That's just as questionable as was the original imposition on them. And I'm fully aware that those who dare complain at the time might end up getting the shaft in a different way, but going along in order to achieve some goal or maintain the status quo is also wrong and also far from extraordinary.

I would love to know how many Hollywood types went along with Harvey Weinstein's creepy requests in order to get a part in a movie but are not about to say that they did. The liberal thinking is that there is a victim in that because what was required to get that part was improper. I say that if it was improper...and it was....then going along was also just as improper. No one said that that part had to be gotten and that actress had to be in that movie. No one was holding a gun to someone's head. A morality choice was freely made by both parties. I would view both as equally morally bankrupt but neither guilty of a crime.

 

[bluetoe]

Hope she's not the type to gender bender a child so she can virtue signal on how she has a trans-child, but maybe they are too old for that and missed that.

I wouldn't be overly concerned with what type she is. She's a liberal, that's all..

That being said, my mother didn't raise any fools. If one of her kids was a trans, she...and I...would love her just as much. We wouldn't be staging any parades to celebrate it.

 

[bluetoe]

those who tend to scapegoat Trump for J6 might find this interesting.

report says Trump authorization of military was ignored

 

[nctransplant]

those who tend to scapegoat Trump for J6 might find this interesting.

report says Trump authorization of military was ignored

We are all preaching to the choir lately...

 

[bluetoe]

We are all preaching to the choir lately...

lol, tru dat. But then I imagine some of those in hiding are listening in from time to time. I intend to keep preaching in either case, old habits being hard to break and all.

 

[randman1]

lol, tru dat. But then I imagine some of those in hiding are listening in from time to time. I intend to keep preaching in either case, old habits being hard to break and all.

Who was the dude being shy about being trans and then insisted he was a woman or was it vice versa?

 

[randman1]

Southerners were like the terrorists who use human shields.

States' Rights was their cover story.

Still is today. Not for slavery, but for other sorts of exploitation and bigotry.

You talking about enslaving 500k children, not just teens but even babies and toddlers for sex slavery and forced labor.

Whole country watched that happening, and the democrats did it, and are self-righteously proud of it. That's who they are, right?

 

[randman1]

No it doesn't.

What it confirms is what we already know - because Trumps said he would pursue more charges against Hunter and the whole Biden family.

Yes, the guy who complained about so-called lawfare has promised to engage in it.

Biden should probably preemptively pardon a bunch of people. The problem with that, of course, is it makes people look guilty.

That's because they are guilty and some of the most heinous crimes.

 

[randman1]

They vandalized, desecrated, and defecated in the US Capitol. That's just the property damage.

You piss your pants when a football player kneels for the national anthem, but it's actually commendable when a thousand MAGA rednecks try and destroy the US Capitol. A lot can happen in 3 hours. A lot DID happen in 3 hours.

Well Strum, if anyone wants to be honest but doesn't like rioting, you would still have to admit that as far as rioting goes, the J6ers were by far and heads above so the most well-behaved rioters we've seen in our lifetime.

Seriously. Just compare them to the BLM and Antifa rioters.

Plus, there was a very large federal operation involved to lead, instigate and often mostly perform the rioting. That's fact and involved a ton of alphabet agencies and assets including the DOD and elite psyop units.

 

[randman1]

Wonderful... and how big is that deal, exactly? Be more vague, if that's possible.

If you wouldn't bend yourself into knots, endlessly defending the obvious harmful, disrespectful behavior, then virtue signaling would never be needed. But, you have to defend them because of the "sides" institution that you've chained yourself to, for perpetuity. When you make that choice, you inevitably have to defend the really shitty, blatantly-screamingly-obvious shitty behavior. It's become such a habit that you have to invent a term like "virtue signal" to ease what's left of your conscience when confronted about it.

Well, plenty and likely yourself defended the beatings, murder, lootings and arson in the BLM riots that went on for months.

We should applaud the J6ers for their relatively decent behavior and decorum based on the standards of the times.

 

[randman1]

No it doesn't.

What it confirms is what we already know - because Trumps said he would pursue more charges against Hunter and the whole Biden family.

Yes, the guy who complained about so-called lawfare has promised to engage in it.

Biden should probably preemptively pardon a bunch of people. The problem with that, of course, is it makes people look guilty.

Difference is they are quite obviously guilty of even heinous crimes as is the democrat establishment in general. Mass murder, mass child sex slavery, treason, bribery, sedition and just about everything you can think of short of cannibalism and perhaps we just don't know yet on that one.

It's not lawfare nut some semblance of justice.