is this beating a dead horse? Probably, but that dead horse was asking for it...
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Apparently, you're a couple weeks behind as everyone has passed on Gaetz. Pam Bondi is going to be AG.
Having the most important person/job in the world handled by someone who is two or three quarts short and literally everyone around them not only knows it, but covers it up and lies to everyone else claiming that he is running at top efficiency doesn't qualify as one of the biggest scandals? I mean, who actually is our president? Who has and is running things for the next month?
yeah I have to agree with you there. Considering all the f'ed up crap that has happened under this admin, I don't know how it can be anything less than the biggest story out there...except it isn't any longer for those of us who knew the score all along. Maybe the bigger story, and the more important consideration, is how can people be so absolutely stupid and oblivious as to not have seen there was a problem. And that's not even with allowing that Biden was an absolute zero even before he began staining the White House, in both literal and figurative terms..
the link isn't very inclusive for me either.
An illegal burns a woman alive on NY subway. Good job Dims.
Have you heard from our inept prez?
@carolinablue34 is who I think you are referring to. No longer posting or maybe very rarely doing so. But he did say he peeks in occasionally. Drop a line or two, I'm sure he'd be happy to hear from you. Not a bad sort of...well, he ain't so bad is what I'm saying.
That is indeed the person. I've had a couple of direct conversations. While we differ vastly in many political respects, our communications have always been thoughtful, insightful, respectful and without any issue because we can agree to respect the other's position without making it a personal attack. The bottom line is that @carolinablue34 took a break from actively engaging here because it just wasn't helping on a personal level and he believed that his posting wasn't going to change the minds of those attacking. I actually owe a response to a discussion we were having, but was letting it rest until after the inauguration. Despite what I might feel about how things are going to go and would disagree with the perception that Orange is out to get all his detractors, it doesn't mean that the belief isn't real by those who feel that way.
I also had a private back-and-forth going at one time and it was as you say, very amiable and open. It was an opportunity for me not just to say I'm not judgmental to individuals for what they are but to show it, and that was an added attraction to me.
But when he posted, he kept making it about him and his proclivities in spite of his insistence that he just wanted general acceptance without consideration for those. I have to admit I got a little fed up with that hypocrisy and we tangled a bit here.
Still, I wish he would come back because as I said, he's a decent sort to converse with. And I do have sympathy for his battles, real or imagined. He probably doesn't believe that I have nothing against him based on what he wants to be, but that is absolutely true. I would have no problem hanging out with him. What I have a problem with is the promotion of such and the highlighting it gets in the media and elsewhere. That is not a knock against him at all, but I do wish those tendencies didn't exist. But of course they do, and I have no problem dealing with that reality. I just don't want us (kids especially) to be so massively encouraged to go that route.
I can agree with much of that and what I am about to say really has nothing to do with @carolinablue34. While you are right about the encouragement of "that route" (talking with my SIL middle school teacher over the holidays has been interesting to say the least) the hypocrisy that drives me nuts is the demand for complete accommodation on the one hand, but the defense that we aren't supposed to even debate the issues surrounding it because the numbers are so small.
For example, recently the head of the NCAA testified in Congress about their policies and accommodation of trans athletes. He literally said that of the over half a million athletes that the NCAA governs, there were 10 trans participating on women's teams. That they are allowed to compete as women just blows me away. I just don't understand why hundreds of thousands or at least tens of thousands have to conform to accommodate the ten who say they are something that their equipment/dna says otherwise.
I don't give a pile of lima beans about how anyone wants to live their lives, but it just seems to me to be the height of hypocrisy to tell women athletes that they have to adapt and accommodate others who are physically men, but they aren't allowed to call it out or even talk about it. If there isn't an issue with the current way they have set it up (and it's perfectly fine that some athletes with physical attributes of men are advantaged by playing with women), then logic would dictate that they make no distinction between men's or women's teams. There should be a single bball team, a single soccer team, and so on. Regardless of gender, whoever makes the team plays and that's that because there is no distinction to be made based upon the actual physical structure that is covered by the uniforms. We all know the end result, but all those so-called champions of women's rights better get ready for the firestorm. To me, that's an issue worthy of discussion.
I think this is excellent and worth seeing all the way through. I almost posted it yesterday but realized maybe not the time to disrupt the peace on Earth we were enjoying.
I'll say again, I love Megyn Kelly and her approach...
If nothing else, skip ahead to her take on George Stephanopoulos for a prime example of leftist hypocrisy. I've mentioned this example myself.
I'll say again, I love Megyn Kelly and her approach...
If nothing else, skip ahead to her take on George Stephanopoulos for a prime example of leftist hypocrisy. I've mentioned this example myself.
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yeah, the small numbers dodge drives me nuts as well, especially considering that those who play that card will complain about things that occur in small numbers as well, and that really have no effect on our lives. Take the 'extreme religious right', for example. The pissing and moaning about that set of citizens dwarfs any possible impact that they have on our daily lives. But take things that leftist/liberals support that do affect at least some of us, and it's 'what's the big deal?' time. To me, if it's wrong it's wrong regardless of the occurrences.
The basic flaw in liberalism that I referred to that drives me nuts is the have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too hypocrisy of 'don't single me out for recognition of the fact that I'm not like everyone else because I AM just like everyone else and I should be considered that way'...but then, 'hey look at me, look at me, I celebrate that I'm not like everyone else and I deserve recognition of that fact along with a parade and some special accommodations'. Hard for me to find empathy for such two-faced hypocrisy.
I’m not sure this trump/musk thing is gonna work out. Seems like some division in the maga ranks over musk. Musk doesn’t have patience for dum****ery and trump is gonna protect his loyalists. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a parting of ways sooner than later.
I've also had this thought. If you're going to include trans on women's teams, and if women whine that they deserve as much notice as men in sports, let them all compete together....and the best will play regardless of anything. But of course that's just completely unappealing, and major sports are played because of the appeal of spectating them.
My thought is this. I would love to be a professional golfer. But you know what? So would untold thousands of others who will never make the grade because for one reason or another, they aren't good enough. The point being, who says everybody gets a chance to play? NOBODY says that, and when you have a squirrelly situation like a trans man being allowed to play with women, if you have half a brain you have to understand that this isn't about inclusiveness, it's about making unfair and illogical accommodations for LGBQT types. It's favoring the LGBQT types over normal biological considerations. It is not written that these guys have to play just because they have decided to live as women. There isn't a place for you, get over it and yourself.
It's similar to that situation some years ago where a handicapped guy was allowed by an idiot judge to play pro golf with the help of a golf cart. He was allowed under whatever that handicap law says, but it was the most idiotic ruling ever. NOT everyone gets to play pro golf, We non-pro golfers ALL have a handicap of not having what it takes to play pro golf, and play within the parameters. I'm actually surprised that it hasn't been ruled by some moron that everyone can play, and their scoring handicaps counted.
20+ year PGA Professional speaking here: you're referring to the Casey Martin / ADA vs PGAT lawsuit in 2001. It wasn't an idiot judge, it was the SCOTUS. I actually wrote a lengthy article on the case for our PGA Section in 2003.
Martin had already won a Nike Tour event, thus qualifying for the PGAT. He also made it through Q-school as well. His issue was that his leg disease was getting worse rapidly and he could not participate in 4 days events, even though he had fully qualified for them (his leg has since been amputated). He was not given a spot in PGAT events bc of his disability or the lawsuit result.
IMO, this is a far cry from men playing women's sports and vice versa. Martin was clearly good enough to compete and belonged out there. It was a very rare instance and nothing like it has come up on the PGAT since then.
I don't want to get into back-and-forth negativity. I'll just state my POV. He played well enough to be on tour, but his handicap kept him from playing on equal terms with the other golfers. Playing while not being on equal terms with the other players is what we're talking about. I sympathize with Martin, but he's just one unfortunate person among millions who are relegated to the sidelines.. Laws requiring accommodations for the handicapped are for the public at large. Laws regarding the handicapped are not intended to open doors that are not open to the public at large.
Interesting that you posted this on the same day that Jimmy Carter passed.
I hear ya and definitely appreciate your perspective.
Regarding the “equal terms” part: the funny thing is, most PROFESSIONAL golfers (myself included) would tell you that using a cart in TOURNAMENT (slow) play is more disruptive than walking with a caddy carrying your bag. Yes it’s an advantage physically, but most of the guys out there would not take a cart if you let them. He was actually on UNequal terms, psychologically (which is 85% of competitive golf).
interesting and entirely appropriate timing-wise, although at the time I posted I didn't know of Carter passing. So I guess you can consider my post to be an unintended eulogy, especially since so many consider Carter to be the worst.
It may seem hypocritical of me to compare this, but I read that Biden used his public tribute to take some similar shots at Trump. What a guy. Pure class.
Carter might not have been the best president ever, but he shines compared to LBJ and Biden. And he was just a very decent human being. There was much that I didn't like about his presidency but then there were things I liked very much. His 'fireside' chats. His casual approach to just being president. The fact that he should get much of the credit for the Soviet's failure in Afghanistan which led to the collapse of the Soviet Union..
And I appreciate yours.
So me being a mediocre golfer is all in my head?
His unequal ability to play without the aid of a cart is what I'm emphasizing. I'm not trying to make the cart out to be some unfair equalizer, and that's not my point. I'm saying that the use of the cart is rather an imposition on the pro game. We are saying the same thing but with two different POV's. Your perspective is more in fairness to him while mine is more in fairness to the established rules and the other golfers.
The insanity is they let the males pretending to be female change clothes in the female locker room. That swimmer from Princeton openly paraded around naked to scare the female swimmers per those that brought a lawsuit. Imagine if someone did that at the local gym, the police would arrest them for indecent exposure.
The standard on personal rights is your rights cannot violate my rights. If you dress up as a woman, who cares...but once you take your act into private female areas and expose yourself, then you are a criminal.
The difference between Carter and Biden/Obama/LBJ/Clinton is Carter was just incompetent and weak, whereas they were corrupt. Of course, I did not live during LBJ's reign but reading history about him shows he was a bad person.
The Carter lovefest yesterday was sickening, he hid behind building Habitat for Humanity houses to cover up his terrible actions as POTUS and his terrible left wing beliefs afterwards. He claimed Venezuela had fair elections, Carter was incompetent and maybe corrupt in the end...I'd say also a fake Christian given his left wing beliefs.
Trump bringing up the terrible Panama Canal deal by Carter is ironic given the timing before his death.
I was never a Ramaswamy fan, he is a late comer to the GOP side with some weird beliefs on top of arrogance. I think he bolts before Musk bolts. I say Musk's DOGE is around until the next round of elections. Cut the waste now and then get to his normal work.
You're obviously a bit behind. Because there have been dozens of men playing pretend in women's lockerrooms at Planet Fitness or other public gyms who have not been arrested. In fact, when real women have complained, they have been chastised and some have even lost their memberships because they were unwilling to participate in the fantasy of the mentally disturbed and supported by the virtue signalers.
Never seen you poast before. I like the cut of your jib. Welcome.
probably should have stopped after your first paragraph, which I agree with. Carter wasn't hiding behind anything, he was demonstrating that doing the work (HforH) talks while just talking about it walks. Often wrongheaded but probably the least corrupt president in memory. And a lot of decent Christians and decent people are liberal. Libs aren't necessarily evil, but they are necessarily wrong. Pretty sure they don't filter out liberals at the pearly gates, but I'll have to let you know for sure about that.
I do have to agree that Carter made some surprisingly off-the-wall leftist remarks after his presidency. I wanted to slap some sense into him.
When he was president, he had a Polish security adviser who absolutely hated the Soviets, It was Carter under Zbigniew Brezhinski's (?) urging that they started supplying the Afghan rebels with meaningful aid including weapons such as the Stingers. Reagan gets credit, but he only followed up on what Carter started and ramped it up strongly. Fair is fair, and it's only fair to give Carter credit where credit is due.
Musk is a result-oriented type who doesn't like getting sidetracked with side issues. That's a good way to operate an engineering project but not necessarily as effective in getting people to change their systems You can't just start cutting slabs of system out in the name of efficiency without rocking the boat too hard and maybe defeating the purpose. The waste of bureaucracy takes time to evolve, and it will take time to devolve it properly. I doubt he has the patience but I really hope he has a positive effect.
I'd say he has to atone for his abortion and LGBTQ+ beliefs...can't support killing babies and get into Heaven. He could have built 1 million homes by hand but that would not wash away other things he did/supported. Liberals that do and/or support evil things are not Christians. The Jesus Gets Us propaganda ads are there to dupe people that "Hey Jesus is down with whatever, man." Satan loves that....
As for Carter's WH time...my dad was in the Air Force and I remember him complaining about Carter hurting the DoD. Reagan fixed all that when he replaced Carter, brought back the B-1 bomber scrapped I believe under Carter. Carter also gets the blame for: handing over the Panama Canal to now China, the Iran hostage crap which emboldened radical islam we see today, the gas crisis, and the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. I see a lot of similarities with the incompetence under Obama and Biden where Russia loved their ignorance and weakness to invade Ukraine. All of them make Clinton look like a genius outside sexual harassment stuff and Waco Tx, but then again Clinton is connected to helping keep UBL alive to pull off 9/11 on Bush 2.0. It is a pattern of ignorance, weakness and corruption under Democrats which blows up in the face of GOP winning the WH. Fauci was helping the Chinese with their Wuhan virus on Obama's watch....and Biden has allowed in over 10K Chinese (likely spies/military personnel), terrorists, illegals, felons, drugs and weapons....which hopefully do not blow up like some 9/11 on Trump's watch. Even Biden thinks he is going to heaven...the joke is on him.
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Lloyd Austin was also the CENTCOM/CC under Obama that went along with the disastrous pullout of Iraq. I was working in HQ USCENTCOM right before Gen Mattis retired likely because he turned down Obama's BS to hand over Iraq to the terrorists and Iran with no US military presence. ISIS rose from that mess and set off a wildfire in the middle east, Iran also loved Obama's support with surrendering Iraq to them and giving them billions to kill Americans and Jews up to now. Seems like Obama and Biden have a hardon for Iran....anti-semites comes to mind.
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agree with most of your post, and I too am no friend of libthink and lib hypocrisy....but I have to nitpick a little.
The B-1 bomber might be my favorite aircraft of all time. I'm glad it was salvaged. However, it has been seriously downgraded in capability and then used very sparingly in the very long mean time. Scrapping it might have been a well-considered and reasonable thing to do, as it turns out.. It seems that most of the desired operations have been accomplished without it. But you have never seen a more jaw-droppingly beautiful hunk of metal in slow flight with wings extended or fast flight with wings retracted. Anyway, Carter was not anti-defense but rather was trying to be responsible in that regard.
And I'm not sure that Carter emboldened anything as much as Reagan did by going behind the scenes to make a deal with Iran...for purely political reasons... even before he took office. That did not sit well with me but no one complained because it meant the hostages were coming home..
Here is something we can apparently agree on strongly. Clinton and his hag are two of the most self-interested vultures ever to darken the doors of the WH. They score high on the damage done to good accomplished scale. It sickens me to see Bill get the adoration he has gotten, and Hillary should be sitting under a jail somewhere.
Not as bad as I thought they'd rate after reading the nonsense at your link. But not good.
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