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Is anyone really surprised at this???
This is what happens when The Left runs things in Europe and everywhere else
Thery are being destroyed by their own "open borders " disaster and the mass influx of refugees from Syria and other ME nations has overrun Europe and many on the conservative side ,including me ,have pointed out how few "women and children" are in these pictures 'of "refugees" fleeing Syria .The invasion has occurred without firing a shot and now the storm troopers of ISIS are THERE and they are killing and will continue to kill as many infidels as they can.
This is a MASSIVE warning to all those open borders types in the Democrat party who have blocked and derailed the building of a wall on the Southern border. That wall BTW is the LAW of the land going back to 2007. Obama has bulit a grand total of 30 THIRTY!!!! miles of the 700 that the law mandates be built. Actually we need a wall that covers the ENTIRE Southern border as well.
Obama, along with his fellow open borders radicals in the democrat party, and the idiotic Republican establishment types, need to OPEN their F in eyes and stop the invasion HERE before it gets out of hand like it has in Europe.
This is what happens when The Left runs things in Europe and everywhere else
Thery are being destroyed by their own "open borders " disaster and the mass influx of refugees from Syria and other ME nations has overrun Europe and many on the conservative side ,including me ,have pointed out how few "women and children" are in these pictures 'of "refugees" fleeing Syria .The invasion has occurred without firing a shot and now the storm troopers of ISIS are THERE and they are killing and will continue to kill as many infidels as they can.
This is a MASSIVE warning to all those open borders types in the Democrat party who have blocked and derailed the building of a wall on the Southern border. That wall BTW is the LAW of the land going back to 2007. Obama has bulit a grand total of 30 THIRTY!!!! miles of the 700 that the law mandates be built. Actually we need a wall that covers the ENTIRE Southern border as well.
Obama, along with his fellow open borders radicals in the democrat party, and the idiotic Republican establishment types, need to OPEN their F in eyes and stop the invasion HERE before it gets out of hand like it has in Europe.
It's pretty telling that when there's a horrible terrorist attack in Europe perpetrated by Middle Eastern Islamists, people on here are immediately blaming Democrats, Obama, and Hillary.
You guys really just see everything through one lens, don't you?
You guys really just see everything through one lens, don't you?
They are in bed with them. Not all democrats but the Obama and Clinton folks are.
Obama claims ISIS is "contained" geographically. Maybe he should go to Paris and try to make that argument. Hillary-ously, his head is firmly stuck in the sand and he has pre-Kerry-ously put us all at risk.
You can be pretty much assured that French and Euro leaders will not look to him for leadership here. They know better.
I should think so, would expect France to round up the jihadis in their country and take the fight to ISIS in the Levant.
My first cousin and his wife were in Paris for the U2 concert earlier this week. Thankfully they were able to fly out earlier today and and have arrived safely in NYC. Also my son is in Zurich for business. I can't wait for him to get back here.
Obama and Hillary Clinton are in-bed with ISIS? I'm not sure who the "Obama and Clinton folks" actually are, but I want you to explain it to me. I'm not saying you're wrong. But, I need more proof. I want to believe that Obama and Hillary Clinton are orchestrating these attacks with ISIS. Please, please prove to me that it's true. Not opinion, not conjecture, not assumption, and not because you dislike "The Left", either. I would love to have yet another reason to distrust the US Government. I'm all yours to be enlightened. However, I'm not buying it if it's just "The Left is in-bed with ISIS." That left/right illusion may be all you need, but I want some proof.
By the way, if everyone here is collectively convinced that Islam is only a religion of hate and violence and destruction, and they are all, at their core, bent on world domination... if that's true, and you believe it... then you'd better start galvanizing a plan like the Nazis implemented to destroy a religion and all it's members, but you'd better have a better plan than they had. If it's a fact, that it's their genetic nature and belief to dominate the world, and kill everyone that's not Muslim, then you'd better not leave any around to chance. You'll have to kill them all. So far, I don't see many people here showing much acceptance of peaceful Muslims. If anyone, myself included, ever makes any statement that tries to defend the peaceful Muslims, we're derided by the majority. These violent terrorists are evil and dangerous and a threat to peaceful people. The things they do are reprehensible. But, you walk a dangerous line when you label all Muslims as being like the ones that do these acts of terror. If you're capable of thinking it, then you're capable of doing it.
Is the world a better place if there were no more Muslims? Jesus is listening...
Is the world a better place if there were no more Muslims? Jesus is listening...
I didn't say they orchestrated the attacks. They did, however, intentionally create ISIS. There's a lot of evidence but 2 particular items come to mind. The first is a memo obtained by Judicial watch that shows it was our policy to arm jihadists who were highly likely to establish a salafist Caliphate in the region straddling Syria and Iraq, occupying large swaths of both countries. This is what happened. We had partners in the region involved with that which is one reason ISIS had recruitment centers in Turkey, well reported on and publicly known and allowed to operate nonetheless.
The 2nd item was the disclosure this last year by the former Defense Intelligence Agency who headed the agency at that time, and who publicly responding to questions about that memo, debunking the spin it wasn't taken seriously, and went on the record publicly stated the establishment of the Caliphate was "intentional" and "deliberate."
What more do you need?
Benghazi was also part of the gun running to these groups and Hillary was neck deep in that. In fact, Hillary's aide in an email which Judicial Watch once again forced in court to be disclosed, has Huma her aide "crediting" Hillary with the violent protests at the anniversary of 9/11 and the attack on Benghazi.
Depends on what you mean by working with them. Have they covertly assisted them? Sure. Has Obama's campaign to "degrade" them been half-hearted? Yep.
Do we have planes and jets flying overhead watching very large convoys of ISIS and yet are forbidden to take them out? Yep. You can watch some youtube videos in the field demonstrating that where the guy showing it talks of how we're not taking them out due to "political reasons." They are sitting ducks and we are letting them supply their Iraqi forces all the while having forces present plenty able and willing to take them out.
Are the ground reports from Iraq accusing the US of actually dropping supplies to them just mistakes or intentional? Who knows?
You tell me what it looks like.
It looks like a bunch of highly-resolved, vengeful radicals that are playing hit and run wherever they can. They'd love nothing better than watching civilized societies react in such a way as to 1) give them even more reason, and resolve, to continue to act-out as they have been and 2) watch the civilized societies act-out toward their own populations as if they were all potential terrorists. So far, so good.
When you say "covertly assisted them", that sounds like you think they're working in collusion with them, to me. You seem to be hesitant, however.
I think I've been abundantly clear and detailed. What part do you not understand?
Do you think ISIS and the Obama administration are working together toward a shared objective?
1) Yes
2) No
This was my detailed earlier response. What part do you not understand?
"Depends on what you mean by working with them. Have they covertly assisted them? Sure. Has Obama's campaign to "degrade" them been half-hearted? Yep.
Do we have planes and jets flying overhead watching very large convoys of ISIS and yet are forbidden to take them out? Yep. You can watch some youtube videos in the field demonstrating that where the guy showing it talks of how we're not taking them out due to "political reasons." They are sitting ducks and we are letting them supply their Iraqi forces all the while having forces present plenty able and willing to take them out.
Are the ground reports from Iraq accusing the US of actually dropping supplies to them just mistakes or intentional? Who knows?
You tell me what it looks like."
Now you have asked a different question. Is there a shared objective? Of course there is. I think there are 2, one overt and one covert. Overtly, both share the objective of replacing Assad. No one disagrees with that so please don't be ignorant and even try to argue that point.
The second is more secretive and not likely the Pentagon and whole administration agree with it. But yes, I do think Obama himself and some close advisors including Hillary and the Muslim Brotherhood operatives he appointed to various positions including the National Security Council staff, do indeed have a shared objective of establishing an Islamic Caliphate.
Still doesn't mean they are involved in assisting the Paris attacks or any particular terrorist attack specifically.
No one said all muslims were evil, that said where are the peaceful muslims after these attacks? Why are they not taking a stand?
Good... because they aren't all evil. In fact, I don't consider the perpetrators of these acts as being Muslim anymore than I consider KKK members to be Christians.
And, to your question:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/11/14/muslims-strongly-condemn-paris-attacks/75772102/
http://time.com/4112830/muslims-paris-terror-attacks-islam-condemn/
http://qz.com/550104/muslims-around-the-world-condemn-terrorism-after-the-paris-attacks/
http://www.alternet.org/media/muslims-around-world-are-condemning-paris-attacks
http://muslimmatters.org/2015/11/14/what-muslims-are-saying-about-the-paris-attacks/
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/14/our...ng_muslims_and_take_a_hard_look_at_ourselves/
Your mistake is not to admit they are indeed Muslims. A few times I asked a former CAIR guy who was a Facebook friend that eventually defended me even though he initially friended me up. He was a guy on TV at times and it was interesting to hear his friends and him.
None of them would dare say they or any similar groups were not Muslims. I wasn't pressing them. They obviously were unwilling to deny that they or even some British extremist Imams they felt were in some sense their enemies were not Muslims. They are. They are part of the Muslim brotherhood and recognized as such. It's just sheer ignorance to suggest otherwise.
I mean, I get the anger here. I feel it as well. However, the radicals want a strong response. They want a backlash. That is one of their goals. I'm not saying we shouldn't give it to them. That is what they want though. Part of the game here is pissing the 'west' off so they can perpetuate their nonsense with our reaction. As I said, I'm not saying it shouldn't happen though. In an ideal world, we find all the terrorists and get rid of them. I'm not sure how to go about doing that in the real world though.
Well, let's see...
Obama pulled ALL US troops out of Iraq creating gross power vacuum that allowed ISIS to form; he failed to get a status of forces agreement with the Iraqi government which could have allowed for a residual force to be place to help Iraqi forces deal with the rise of ISIS; he failed to pay attention to intelligence indicating ISIS was strengthening in Iraq; he allowed ISIS to steal away with US heavy armaments when Iraqi forces were overwhelmed by ISIS (he should have had those heavy weapons destroyed in airstrikes as soon as they were abandoned); he called ISIS "JV" and failed to do anything to confront ISIS until forced to politically by a multitude of high-profile beheadings; once he finally got off his ass and tried to do something, his actions were inadequate and half-hearted and ineffective; he actually believes he has contained ISIS - the most delusional position and assertion he has ever made; HRC stated last night that the fight against ISIS can not be America's fight - WOW, just WOW; he backed so-called "moderate jihadis" in Syria - that is one of the most stupid terms I've ever heard; he completely misread and mishandled to the so-called "Arab Spring"; he completely FUBARed Libya such that Libya is now an ISIS stronghold; he failed to provide adequate protection for US diplomats in Libya resulting in the deaths of a US ambassador and several security personnel; he lied about and covered up the details behind those attacks just weeks before an election and continues to lie about it; ... Yes, Democrats, Obama, Hillary, and Kerry are to blame for what is going on in Syria and Iraq and Libya... They own it. Period.
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As a Christian, if the KKK were to start going around and killing and beheading people (we are talking in today's time frame…not 10, 20 or 30 years ago) I would be one of the first people to lock and load and to protect those that were being targeted (to include, illegals, blacks, gays, jews or anyone else the KKK might have an issue with) I truly believe that a large portion of Christian, conservative, gun owning, white republicans would do this! In many cases we always have!!! My very simple question about muslims is why, with all the turmoil, killings etc that is being perpetrated by muslims today, do they not speak out and do the same? I mean at least speak out on it…..nothing from CAIR, you hear some from obama and the radical left but the term radical islamic terrorists is hardly even muttered by them. We continually have the left defend them even after this type of event that happened in Paris…even after 9-11….even after the multiple videos of beheadings being circulated…..we know that the quran gives permission to muslims to lie in the name of mohammad….so I am simply asking what does the left want us to do? do we need another 9-11 situation to accept the reality about islam? when it happens will the country be united under the US flag once again for a couple of months? when it happens will people turn to God once again for a couple of months? when it happens will prayer all of a sudden be cool again for a couple of months? and when it happens will the left finally realize the truth about islam?
The Obama-HRC-Kerry-DEM mentality with respect to terrorism is perfectly encapsulated by this tweet from a twit-DEM running for State House in MN:
"ISIS isn't necessarily evil. It is made up of people doing what they think is best for their community. Violence is not the answer, though."
"ISIS isn't necessarily evil. It is made up of people doing what they think is best for their community. Violence is not the answer, though."
It's difficult for him to hear with his fingers in his ears and his head up his azz.
You're right... the KKK is loaded with nothing but Christians, always has been. My bad. Hey... maybe all terror organizations are religious wackos.
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