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Quick stuff (State game 2)...

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...and this was a story of self-inflicted survival, or maybe I should say survival of the self-inflicted.

- On one hand you hafta credit State with making some tough shots. Of their 3-pt makes only 2 were on over-helps. Sometime they just make shots. That being said, we did a better job of taking away their outside opportunities in the second half all together. After a hot start they finished 7/13, the most important number there being holding down the number of makes.

- Good grief, this game was stressful to watch in that I can't remember a worse case of self-inflicted badness being careless with the rock :eek:. I mean, passes to no one, not securing rebounds, stepping over the end-line ---- we turned it over just about every way imaginable, plus when you're playing against a Pitino-style five-guys-fouling-five-guys team you HAVE TO BE STRONG WITH THE BALL!

- Speaking of which, CATCH THE DAMN BALL! I know our frosh Bigs are still young, but it's friggin February --- just sticking out a hand to catch an interior pass ain't gonna get it done. After 2 total TOs vs dook we had 11 in the first half alone, and again they were mostly self-inflicted. Much of the first half was a story of us turning them over, and then turning ourselves over.

- Now the good news: We were doing an awful lot right on offense --- in fact the TOs and 15 Blown Assists in the first half alone is what held us to a paltry 35 points. We at least cleaned up the Assist-blowing in the second half and stronger finishing helped us to hang 61 on them.

- Speaking of offense, the transition game was in high gear (which is remarkable given we left the ball behind more than once). I had us for 20 Fast Break and 29 Secondary Break pts. That's Carolina basketball. I also liked how we attacked their pressure. That discourages a lotta nonsense.

- We also by and large did a good job defending high ball-screens. The hedges were more under control, we were tagging the roller while mostly not losing reach of our men. Credit to State for making an adjustment once we took away their perimeter action by attacking more off the dribble. It took us a while to adjust back, and even once we did they still made some tough shots.

- Good to see some bench contribution, and all five starters in double-figures is a good thing. Good job by Cam of making himself an offensive factor despite being cold from deep. State was making a concerted effort to shut off Cam and Kenny's looks, so hey, find a way to adjust. BTW: Good on KW to show ice-water confidence with those big late 3s, and to Roy for calling a set play for him in crunch time.

- Good to see Theo redeem himself for early malfunctions by getting back to his game and making some sweet finishing moves in the paint down the stretch.

- apparently State took exception to JB's off-hand remark that he didn't consider them a "rival". Johnson in particular got mouthy early to the point Les Jones stepped in. Of course that just got JB into the glare and he made Markell's life miserable, and on the other end made a point of taking him to the rack in one-man Fast Breaks.

- And speaking of taking exception --- LUKE either got pissed off at his own early ball-looseness or some of the uncalled "physical" junk, but whatever #32 went OFF, scoring in all manners and distances. I'll tell ya, once Luke started moving without the ball it really was a Larry Bird show out there and Yurtseven didn't know whether to sh** or go blind. 33 and 17. Dayumm! Oh, and I love seeing him throw it down.

- Finally, I never thought I'd see a game where Les Jones was the best zebra. Those other two guys were just useless. State having only 3 Team Fouls inside the Under-4 was a joke. That being said the good news was it forced them to use clock giving fouls to get us into the bonus late. BTW: Good job by Cam and Theo of converting big late FTs.

Anyway, whatever the circumstance, that was a damned good win coming 2 days after dook and under the most hostlile of environments. For all our self-inflicted nonsense that showed a lotta grit and character, which of course is exactly what the doctor (and Roy) orders this time o' year!...:cool:
 
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Which player(s) accounted for those first half 15 blown assists, Gary or anyone else . . ?

Thanks in advance . .
 
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Thanks for the wrap Gary... I haven’t watched the game yet but I’m prepared for some first half anxiousness.

And Billy-Goat, is the sniping really necessary? Two great wins in a row and this board still can’t get along!
 
GREAT WIN! GREAT GAME by Luke Superman Maye!

Some of our TO's were mind boggling. I mean just terrible. A number of the others were uncalled fouls. Those refs were sooooo bad. I was genuinely shocked when they didn't tag us for a flagrant foul when Dorn elbowed Abu in the head!
 
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If you have to ask that you must be a stupid shit or trolling Gary, which is it? A stupid shit gets my vote.

Trolling Gary gets mine. Stupid. Dude takes a lot of time & effort to write that up for us. It's obvious he knows a lot about the game, it's too bad some don't appreciate it. Don't read the thread if you know it's going to piss you off.
 
Because it's laughable to keep count of blown assists.

. . I'm just curious as to which players are blowing these assists, seems like a legit question to me, which is why I asked.

Nobody is trolling anyone here . . I love Gary's write-ups, all I'm asking is who is blowing these possible assists.
Surely, if you're gonna keep count, why not jot down the players #, or even his initials, that way when I re-watch the game, I'll have a good idea what to watch for.

Is that too much to ask . . ?
 
It's not a real stat though lmao. "Oh Berry wouldve had 9 assists but guys blew these shots". It's the game of basketball. You don't make every shot.

Congrats. Yet another troll to put on ignore. I figure you're just a 2nd or 3rd "personality" for one of the folks I already have on ignore anyway. Sad thing is you don't have enough personality for one account, much less for multiples.
 
. . I'm just curious as to which players are blowing these assists, seems like a legit question to me, which is why I asked.

Nobody is trolling anyone here . . I love Gary's write-ups, all I'm asking is who is blowing these possible assists.
Surely, if you're gonna keep count, why not jot down the players #, or even his initials, that way when I re-watch the game, I'll have a good idea what to watch for.

Is that too much to ask . . ?

Billy, 1st time i read your OP in this thread I thought you were jabbing at Gary too. Second reading of it I understood what you were asking and that maybe you were not really poking at Gary.
 
Billy, 1st time i read your OP in this thread I thought you were jabbing at Gary too. Second reading of it I understood what you were asking and that you were not really poking at anyone.

I'm jabbing at no one, Soap . . I'm genuinely curious here. He doesn't have to do it for every game, all I'm asking is one game w/ names . . it's not like I'm asking him to do a lot of extra work.

He keeps track of the #, all I want to know is who . . .
 
I'm jabbing at no one, Soap . . I'm genuinely curious here.

The wording made it look bad to my eyes first read thru. Especially after the post it followed.

Upon 2nd reading it was more clear to me what you were really asking. To be as clear as possible, I am not saying you were jabbing at Gary, I am just trying to let you know the wording of your OP might be what triggered someone else to think you were.
 
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Good wrap G and a great road win. Looked like there were more than one "fatigue" turnovers but the upperclassman came through in the crunch as they should have. Manley and Brooks were a bit of a disappointment but Luke covered everything today. Wooden Watch List folks need to start paying some serious attention to this junior walk on .. real deal peeps. jmho
 
But the real question is if Berry was the best player on the floor today? Or will you concede today that Maye was the hands down best player and played better than Berry who had 0 assists?
Well, lessee, considering I gave Luke "Larry Bird" props ($1 to @Steat), the answer to your question is fairly obvious, huh? The better question would be, are you capable of participatiing in a basketball thread without acting like a 10-year-old?

Oh, and for the record, not that it matters but that number is incorrect. JB had 3.
 
Well, lessee, considering I gave Luke "Larry Bird" props ($1 to @Steat), the answer to your question is fairly obvious, huh? The better question would be, are you capable of participatiing in a basketball thread without acting like a 10-year-old?

Oh, and for the record, not that it matters but that number is incorrect. JB had 3.

I was talking about assists, not blown assists. He finished with 0 assists in the game at North Carolina State at 2:00 PM on February 10th, 2018. Here is a link to the box score for you.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400986252
 
You think that was a legit ?? And not trolling? Oh boy.
I was asking a genuine question. I wasn't sure if Guru Gary again thought Berry was the best player on the floor or if he would finally concede that he wasn't. This is the same Guru who says Berry is a top 5 PG and top 20 player in the country so i just wanted to make sure we were watching the same game today
 
I was talking about assists, not blown assists. He finished with 0 assists in the game at North Carolina State at 2:00 PM on February 10th, 2018. Here is a link to the box score for you.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400986252

Man, there is an argument to be made, that Joel Berry was the best player in the Duke game. Don't look at just the box score. The way he set the tempo, 0 turnovers, after that Duval dunk, guarding him full court. Shutting down tipster when guarding him. Taking into the trees with no fear. There are little things in bball that don't show up on the stat sheet. Today, May was the best no doubt, and Gary acknowledges that. Stop with the non sense. If you don't like his posts, don't read and respond. Why do we need start another pissing match.
 
I was asking a genuine question. I wasn't sure if Guru Gary again thought Berry was the best player on the floor or if he would finally concede that he wasn't. This is the same Guru who says Berry is a top 5 PG and top 20 player in the country so i just wanted to make sure we were watching the same game today

I am sorry, I don't beleive that. If it was genuine, ok. I just don't believe it was.
 
I was talking about assists, not blown assists. He finished with 0 assists in the game at North Carolina State at 2:00 PM on February 10th, 2018. Here is a link to the box score for you.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400986252
Don't need it. Unfortunately those reported numbers are kept by the home scorekeeper and fact is it's just wrong. He had 3, all to Luke, and only 1 would even be a judgement call under NCAA definitions...
And I see the answer to my question above is "no".
 
Luke joined some elite company today, The only players in Carolina history to have multiple 30 point and 15 rebound games in one season, in UNC History are
Rosenbluth, Cunningham, Kupchak, and now Luke Maye!

Incredible! The young Man is in some rarefied company in a number of areas. Here is a new one. Thanks for the post.
 
Well if it werent for the greatest half of shooting in acc game history (fact) we woulda got run outta there. Plus noones ever given up a 19-0 run in an acc game and won either. Damn lucky to win this one but i’ll sure as hell take it!
I have to nominate this for the most asinine poast of the season. It's like saying "If Tiger hadn't shot 62, he'd have lost the tournament!". We just accomplished what may be the best shooting half in the history of the ACC, and you say we were "damn lucky". Maybe you need to be back on ignore. That is one of the more inane comments I've ever seen.

State beat d00k earlier and beat our butts at home earlier. They also beat Arizona. They are a very good team. good Lord, man, appreciate a masterpiece when you see it.
 
Don't need it. Unfortunately those reported numbers are kept by the home scorekeeper and fact is it's just wrong. He had 3, all to Luke, and only 1 would even be a judgement call under NCAA definitions...
And I see the answer to my question above is "no".

Just admit you were wrong in saying Berry had 3 assists lol. On the UNC website, he also is listed as having 0 assists. I don't know what to tell you bud. Do I also need to pull up CBS box score too or something?

http://goheels.com/boxscore.aspx?id=15216&path=mbball
 
Dude taken your personal insults and stuya. Its neither. Its a legit question. The only one trolling is you....again.

If y'all are going to troll Gary you should at least have the balls to call it what it is. If you think that was a legit question you're more of a stupid shit than thegoat
 
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If y'all are going to troll Gary you should at least have the balls to call it what it is. If you think that was a legit question you're more of a stupid shit than thegoat
I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page watching that game. It was clear Maye was the best player and he has been in other games but then Guru Gary rides Berry and says he's hand down the best. Just want to make sure we are watching the same game.
 
Just admit you were wrong in saying Berry had 3 assists lol. On the UNC website, he also is listed as having 0 assists. I don't know what to tell you bud. Do I also need to pull up CBS box score too or something?

http://goheels.com/boxscore.aspx?id=15216&path=mbball
One more time, s l o w l y : The home scorekeeper keeps the official numbers, so um, it's gonna be the same everywhere. The scorekeeper was just wrong. Hell, one of the dimes was played back on TV in the highlights.
But hey, since you're so bound and determined to bang on one of our players, you just go right ahead and believe what you want, Sparky.
Hell, let's give him negative-10 Assists. Will that make you feel better?

SMDH.
 
One more time, s l o w l y : The home scorekeeper keeps the official numbers, so um, it's gonna be the same everywhere. The scorekeeper was just wrong. Hell, one of the dimes was played back on TV in the highlights.
But hey, since you're so bound and determined to bang on one of our players, you just go right ahead and believe what you want, Sparky.
Hell, let's give him negative-10 Assists. Will that make you feel better?

SMDH.

Why would I not believe every single box score outlet available, Gary? That's just false but since you can't admit that you are wrong, can you at least tell me when I should expect to see the correct box score? The NCAA won't just allow the scorekeeper to record incorrect stats lol.
 
Some of you guys (I'm saying that lightly) get caught up in the dumbest stuff. Luke was better! No! Berry was better! Thats all opinions. Who cares? Also, why do some of you care so much about Gary taking his time to keep, what you call a useless stat? Gary, I appreciate you taking the time to keep the stats and do a write up each game. Thanks
 
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