Because blown assists are useless. You don't make every shot in basketball. What is the importance of knowing how many blown assists there were and who missed the shots?
Quick stuff (State game 2)...
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Because blown assists are useless. You don't make every shot in basketball. What is the importance of knowing how many blown assists there were and who missed the shots?
Yep, and just reading Adam's article it indeed turns out State players gave him something to take exception to. Apparently Luke overheard them in theur huddle saying he wasn't athletic. Guess it's not a good idea to poke Luke either.
http://goheels.com/news/2018/2/10/adam-lucas-lucas-a-bad-man.aspx
Please arch, please please please dont put me on ignore. I’m sorry, so so sorry. I’m sure we woulda won if we hadnt shot so well. Wtf was i thinking! But for the love of god dont put me on ignore. Dont know
If i can face the day. Why even get up. Omg the horror THE HORROR!!!!!
Seriously, you should just quit flailing and give yourself a time-out, because FYI, you're not very good at the trolling thing, But, hey, if you don't care about self-parody, then feel free to continue making an ass of yourself... at least it's good for a chuckle.
Seriously, you should just quit flailing and give yourself a time-out, because FYI, you're not very good at the trolling thing, But, hey, if you don't care about self-parody, then feel free to continue making an ass of yourself... at least it's good for a chuckle.
Lol it's hilarious that you just can't bring yourself to admit that you were wrong.
Well .. a thread that started as a courtesy from a good poaster turned to sh!t in a minute with a bunch of trolling and insignificant back and forth bs .. For what it's worth I appreciate the quick wraps @gary-7 .. even though the info has some subjectivity about it there is still some insight to the game .. unless you're a f'in idiot or troll .. jmho
Whatever Ol’ Roy is telling the guys in the locker room, my advice to him is to keep on doing just that. 78% shooting in the second half, highest in Ol’ Roy’s time here!! That was a really big run at end of the first half to cut the lead and get it to two going into halftime.
I thought a key area that we excelled in was on the glass today, last game vs State we allowed 22 second chance points and 11 offensive rebounds and today we only allowed only 7 second chance points and 5 offensive rebounds.
I thought we had a lot more of a balanced attack, we had 60 points in the paint tonight, especially in the second half where we had 40 points in the paint.
The turnovers and manner of how some of them happened very much were headscratching especially after seeing a stat that when we didn’t turn the ball over we converted on 29 of 30 possessions in the 2nd half.
I also thought we finished out the game great once again, you could see the experience of our guys clearly showing, we took care of the ball, didn’t panic on traps and converted at the line, that’s certainly a key to success come March and beating able to pull out tight games.
It really has been a great last 2 days for our guys, picking up two great wins, playing as a team and shutting up some fans in the act(that one's more for us). Duke is PUKE and yes, I really do HATE state, two claps for our Heels for being able to take care of business.
It’s now time to take down the Irish again!!
I thought a key area that we excelled in was on the glass today, last game vs State we allowed 22 second chance points and 11 offensive rebounds and today we only allowed only 7 second chance points and 5 offensive rebounds.
I thought we had a lot more of a balanced attack, we had 60 points in the paint tonight, especially in the second half where we had 40 points in the paint.
The turnovers and manner of how some of them happened very much were headscratching especially after seeing a stat that when we didn’t turn the ball over we converted on 29 of 30 possessions in the 2nd half.
I also thought we finished out the game great once again, you could see the experience of our guys clearly showing, we took care of the ball, didn’t panic on traps and converted at the line, that’s certainly a key to success come March and beating able to pull out tight games.
It really has been a great last 2 days for our guys, picking up two great wins, playing as a team and shutting up some fans in the act(that one's more for us). Duke is PUKE and yes, I really do HATE state, two claps for our Heels for being able to take care of business.
It’s now time to take down the Irish again!!
Ah, so you are poking at him. Sorry for giving you the benefit of the doubt earlier.
Thanks Al. And for those who actually like to talk basketball and enjoy UNC wins, today's was very big with the NCAA's new evaluation system that boosts quality road wins. Could prove to be important for our seeding... again for those like you who care about such things.
Right on, Frank. Our lapses of concentration notwithstanding, the rest of the guys are buying into the intensity and effort that Roy and JB have been trying to pound into them. It's also great to see Cam finding his niche --- he's starting to give us some Justin Jackson versatility --- and I think we can officially include Cam into the new "Core Five". Welcome, sir.
Everybody knows gary is Joel's biggest fan. Everybody knows what his game summaries are all about. Don't come here to stir the pot or cause trouble. Discuss Carolina Basketball and give us your take.
Blown assists aren’t a real stat but I don’t think that’s Gary’s point. His point or at least what I take from this stat each game is that our guys are getting teammates in position to score and we just aren’t getting it done, aka an area for growth or improvement. just quit killing dialogue on the board with non stop bullshit.
It’s also cute to see a few of you use multiple names on here. Your verbiage is nearly identical in many of the threads over the last week. You also do a great job in agreeing with yourself and supporting yourself in a debate. What a tool. The mods will get you eventually.
I would agree with this if that were true. Gary has said any shot taken within assists bounds and missed is a blown assist. So, in theory, that means a contested jumper from 20 feet away that is blocked is a blown assist.
I actually do think it is a good tool for what would be high percentage shots. As in missed dunks or open layups. I even asked him earlier in the year if that is what he meant by it.
With his clarification of what it meant, I hold zero weight to it. By all accounts, almost every single miss we have is a blown assist that comes from a possession with a pass in it.
I personally consider blown assists to be passes that would usually result in a made bucket aka a dunk, layup, short jump shot in transition, even a few of which that maybe slip out of the hand or get fumbled out of bounds by our bigs with a defender on their back with clear path to get the ball to the rim it backboard. (We are good at the fumbling balls out of bounds or not being able to collect basic bounce passes with the freshmen bigs we have this year). Regardless it doesn’t matter. I could spend all my time on this board negating the use of the per 40 metric as often as a few people use it but I respectfully let them do their thing and see it for what it is. I’m surely not here to defend what I assume to be a grown man in Gary but some of you guys are petty as hell in damn near every one of his write ups. You know they are coming after every game, but yet it’s the same back and forth over minor details. Don’t read it. Hell spend more time telling us how Jalek Felton should be getting more minutes if he wasn’t suspended despite us being -75 for the year with him on the floor, or perhaps telling us to give Manley time to get in shape despite the fact that he last broke his leg 2 years ago. LoL
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or like i said two months ago, 11-7 looks great in conference...with this schedule, it really didn’t matter how it was cut up.
Can we continue the climb and get a 2 seed? I think a 4 is reasonable with maybe projecting a 3 if we steal a game or 2 on the road. We’d have to bust ass to get a 2 seed I think.
Shit gtee, I’m not smart enough to agree with myself.
There’s a few in particular that have been on here the last few weeks that just stir shit up non stop and post in close proximity to each other and always on the same side.
There’s a few in particular that have been on here the last few weeks that just stir shit up non stop and post in close proximity to each other and always on the same side.
I haven't read all the posts yet, so if this has been mentioned, please forgive me.
Theo's response to the heckling was priceless.“It was very disrespectful on their part,” senior wing Theo Pinson said. “One of them said, ‘You can guard him, he’s not as athletic as you.’ And I think he heard that. Once I heard that, I said, ‘They done talked to the wrong one.’ He just started cooking after that.”
Gotta love Theo telling it like it is.
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Since you mentioned that, given all the nonsense certain people posted above about Joel's Assists, well, from a recent NCAA manual:
An Assist is "the principal pass contributing directly to a field goal"... and... "there should not be a set limit on the number of dribbles by the receiver".
Obviously, too many dribbles or a shot created independent of the pass can negate it, but by ANY recognized standard, below is an example from today of a no-brainer NCAA Assist.
Unfortunately, "rulings on assists are made by the home team's statistician", who provides the official numbers to the NCAA (and all the media), thus it becomes subjective and there are constant controversies (such as Oklahoma's home stat guy being accused recently by Big-12 opponents of padding Trae Young's numbers).
In the ACC, as bad as dook's clock operators have historically been, NC State's stat guys are just as notorious over the years, specifically for padding their guys (e.g., the infamous "Corchiani Assist"), while punishing opponents they don't like. Bottom line is if Joel was playing at home, or anywhere with a fair statistician for that matter, he gets credited for a minimum of 2 (and more likely 3) Dimes today.
Case = Closed.
Since you mentioned that, given all the nonsense certain people posted above about Joel's Assists, well, from a recent NCAA manual:
An Assist is "the principal pass contributing directly to a field goal"... and... "there should not be a set limit on the number of dribbles by the receiver".
Obviously, too many dribbles or a shot created independent of the pass can negate it, but by ANY recognized standard, below is an example from today of a no-brainer NCAA Assist.
Unfortunately, "rulings on assists are made by the home team's statistician", who provides the official numbers to the NCAA (and all the media), thus it becomes subjective and there are constant controversies (such as Oklahoma's home stat guy being accused recently by Big-12 opponents of padding Trae Young's numbers).
In the ACC, as bad as dook's clock operators have historically been, NC State's stat guys are just as notorious over the years, specifically for padding their guys (e.g., the infamous "Corchiani Assist"), while punishing opponents they don't like. Bottom line is if Joel was playing at home, or anywhere with a fair statistician for that matter, he gets credited for a minimum of 2 (and more likely 3) Dimes today.
Case = Closed.
That's an assist. Will you stalkers think so? Probably not.
I agree the clip he showed is an assist by basketball standards.Since you mentioned that, given all the nonsense certain people posted above about Joel's Assists, well, from a recent NCAA manual:
An Assist is "the principal pass contributing directly to a field goal"... and... "there should not be a set limit on the number of dribbles by the receiver".
Obviously, too many dribbles or a shot created independent of the pass can negate it, but by ANY recognized standard, below is an example from today of a no-brainer NCAA Assist.
Unfortunately, "rulings on assists are made by the home team's statistician", who provides the official numbers to the NCAA (and all the media), thus it becomes subjective and there are constant controversies (such as Oklahoma's home stat guy being accused recently by Big-12 opponents of padding Trae Young's numbers).
In the ACC, as bad as dook's clock operators have historically been, NC State's stat guys are just as notorious over the years, specifically for padding their guys (e.g., the infamous "Corchiani Assist"), while punishing opponents they don't like. Bottom line is if Joel was playing at home, or anywhere with a fair statistician for that matter, he gets credited for a minimum of 2 (and more likely 3) Dimes today.
Case = Closed.
I feel like it was assist but I have also been told before that if the ball is put on the floor after the pass is isn't considered one!
But the box score said he had 0 assist!
Well, I would just say read the NCAA guideline again:
"there should not be a set limit on the number of dribbles by the receiver".
Outside of FGs and FTs, boxscores are unfortunately quite subjective, and captive of the home guy.
Garbage in = garbage out.
Still haven’t been able to watch the game.... f$&@ing ESPN watch and their international embargo!
Anyway, the clip above was on the highlights that I could watch and as soon as I saw it I said to myself: “assist”
Also, at the start of the highlights clip Luke threw a pass to Cam and he missed what would have been a simple lay-in... I said to myself: “blown assist”
I like Gary’s write-ups, please keep ‘em coming mate!
Anyway, the clip above was on the highlights that I could watch and as soon as I saw it I said to myself: “assist”
Also, at the start of the highlights clip Luke threw a pass to Cam and he missed what would have been a simple lay-in... I said to myself: “blown assist”
I like Gary’s write-ups, please keep ‘em coming mate!
Speaking of Blown Assists, wait'll ya see Theo's missed dunk on an early break
...but don't worry, we cleaned that stuff up in the second half
. #spoileralertThreads like this are ridiculous. By this point, we should all be able to agree that Luke has made the most impact on the season overall. Without him, we would have been in serious trouble this year. That's pretty much the same for all the starters though. Losing any of them would be devastating. Without Berry, we'd be extremely lucky to pull off a win. The same is true for the other starters. Cam is playing very impressively at this point. Without him, we wouldn't have beat Duke. His offense & rebounds were a major help, but so was his defense. He did a good job defending Bagley, when he was put in that position. Theo is all everything. He may have more turnovers than some people like, but the positive things he does for the team can't be measured in stats. They outweigh the negatives by far. Kenny has been hitting big shots lately & always plays good defense. The backups, as much as I love them, can't replace any of the starters. Why must we choose which starter is better? Without any of them, we'd be in trouble.
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