Refugee Ban
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SO accurate nuk .....All planned staged and designed to manipulate the viewer/consumer
Soros has bankrolled many many of these groups... they operate on a cash basis and usually pay their actors and stooges 25 bucks an hour
Soros has bankrolled many many of these groups... they operate on a cash basis and usually pay their actors and stooges 25 bucks an hour
George w bush was the keynote speaker at one of our national conferences and was asked multiple times about obamas handling of this or that and everytime, I mean everytime he basically responded with I may not agree personally with all the things he believes in but I do understand the job he has is an impossible job and for me or any other past president to comment on the situation would only make his job harder. I wasn't a big fan of him as a president but I became a big fan of him as a person that evening.
Don't know this was his response to every event he spoke but it was at our event.
Ps you can imagine he wouldn't have been the speaker if the crowd were not mostly conservative
What IF this whole thing is part of some big distraction from something else that they do not want us to know about???? I don't know what it is but something about this whole thing is making me feel very uneasy. I am not sure if it is that something horrible WILL happen as a result of this ban or if they are actually deflecting with this because of something worse. I just have a really bad feeling, almost as bad as the feeling I had months prior to 9/11.
I do hope so, believe me.Let's hope your spidy senses are off this month...
I don't think there is any conspiracy theory. You're overthinking it...don't outsmart your common sense.
#1. Radical militant groups have long existed in the middle east. They get funding from oil, and other sources depending on what political motivations exist around the globe.
#2. The decision Obama made to remove troops too soon, with prior dictatorships now gone (ie: Saddam) who used to keep those groups somewhat suppressed...allowed ISIS to grow without any real oposition in place to halt them.
#3. You have a Trump Administration that has appointed a cabinet FULL of old school military personnel. They know what they are dealing with. They issue a temporary ban on travel from the countries known for being breeding grounds for these militant groups so they can develop a proper vetting plan.
#4. You have a bleeding heart public mass, likely headed by paid protesters to rally the masses, who (being completely honest) are naive to their core, have no clue what they are truly protesting, and just want to be a part of something cool to Instagram. They, in their hearts, believe they are doing something for the greater good, but as the saying goes...the worst actions are done with the best intentions. They want to save one innocent refugee who is suffering at the risk of allowing these militants to infiltrate our soil. The risk / reward here is completely imbalanced. It is the modern day Trojan Horse.
There is no conspiracy theory here. You have a ruthless, inhumane collection of psychopaths who want money and power, and they are coming after the sections of this world that are at the top -- America, France, UK, Germany, etc.
Those that feel these actions by Trump will "piss them off" further -- what do you think caused the 1993 World Trade Center bombings? 9/11? Trump wasn't involved... These groups have existed longer than any of us have been on this Earth. It's nothing new. They need to be dealt with, plain and simple.
#1. Radical militant groups have long existed in the middle east. They get funding from oil, and other sources depending on what political motivations exist around the globe.
#2. The decision Obama made to remove troops too soon, with prior dictatorships now gone (ie: Saddam) who used to keep those groups somewhat suppressed...allowed ISIS to grow without any real oposition in place to halt them.
#3. You have a Trump Administration that has appointed a cabinet FULL of old school military personnel. They know what they are dealing with. They issue a temporary ban on travel from the countries known for being breeding grounds for these militant groups so they can develop a proper vetting plan.
#4. You have a bleeding heart public mass, likely headed by paid protesters to rally the masses, who (being completely honest) are naive to their core, have no clue what they are truly protesting, and just want to be a part of something cool to Instagram. They, in their hearts, believe they are doing something for the greater good, but as the saying goes...the worst actions are done with the best intentions. They want to save one innocent refugee who is suffering at the risk of allowing these militants to infiltrate our soil. The risk / reward here is completely imbalanced. It is the modern day Trojan Horse.
There is no conspiracy theory here. You have a ruthless, inhumane collection of psychopaths who want money and power, and they are coming after the sections of this world that are at the top -- America, France, UK, Germany, etc.
Those that feel these actions by Trump will "piss them off" further -- what do you think caused the 1993 World Trade Center bombings? 9/11? Trump wasn't involved... These groups have existed longer than any of us have been on this Earth. It's nothing new. They need to be dealt with, plain and simple.
Excellent poast all around - but wanted to focus in on this part. You explain the root of the problem earlier, but this is why the problem persists. You show some of these people one well-intentioned person that is separated from their family, and it causes these people to forget the "greater good" or the possibility of all people affected not being as well-intentioned, and they become all-in against it.
And yes, I'm of the belief that a good amount (maybe even a majority) of the people who protest/march/etc do so to allow them to poast about it on social media.
Does anyone else have a prob with the media calling the eo a "muslim ban" when its not a ban and doesnt mention muslims? I mean come on. I call bs wherever i see it. I called bs on the birthers and the wackos claiming obama was a muslim and was bent on destroying the nation yadda yadda yadda and now this media whipped hysteria over trump. Has common sense and objectivity just flown out the window?
Yes, I have a problem with this. The media knows what they are doing. Everything the media does for the next four years is an attempt to make sure Trump is not re-elected.
It doesn't matter that much to me. I don't pay attention to a lot of it. However, you have to admit that the countries that are included are a Muslim majority by a wide margin.
Did you just crawl out from under a rock?
I don't think there is any conspiracy theory. You're overthinking it...don't outsmart your common sense.
I don't think there is a conspiracy either, that's not what I meant. I was thinking more like retaliation.
#1. Radical militant groups have long existed in the middle east. They get funding from oil, and other sources depending on what political motivations exist around the globe.
I agree, this is true. RADICAL groups have existed a while, yes. Our own country has helped them out a bit too though. They get guns and weapons from?????
#2. The decision Obama made to remove troops too soon, with prior dictatorships now gone (ie: Saddam) who used to keep those groups somewhat suppressed...allowed ISIS to grow without any real oposition in place to halt them.
100% true, yes, we agree on this statement.
#3. You have a Trump Administration that has appointed a cabinet FULL of old school military personnel. They know what they are dealing with. They issue a temporary ban on travel from the countries known for being breeding grounds for these militant groups so they can develop a proper vetting plan.
Now this is where I see a problem. I look at the old school people as being a problem. History will continue to repeat itself until you learn a lesson. In other words, what they did back in the old days did not work then and it will not work now. We need to try a totally different approach. Unfortunately, most are too aggressive in their thinking and have that "fight" mentality and so we will never progress. We will be in an indefinite battle with someone forever.
#4. You have a bleeding heart public mass, likely headed by paid protesters to rally the masses, who (being completely honest) are naive to their core, have no clue what they are truly protesting, and just want to be a part of something cool to Instagram. They, in their hearts, believe they are doing something for the greater good, but as the saying goes...the worst actions are done with the best intentions. They want to save one innocent refugee who is suffering at the risk of allowing these militants to infiltrate our soil. The risk / reward here is completely imbalanced. It is the modern day Trojan Horse.
I do understand that taking in a bunch of refugees is risky, but what Trump did this week was way over the top. He was not just banning refugees, he was banning everyone and it WAS based solely on their religion, like it or not. There were plenty of people who had every right to come here legally and had been established here already as being safe, and they were banned. THAT is the problem. I am all for vetting those who have not been here yet.
There is no conspiracy theory here. You have a ruthless, inhumane collection of psychopaths who want money and power, and they are coming after the sections of this world that are at the top -- America, France, UK, Germany, etc.
Those that feel these actions by Trump will "piss them off" further -- what do you think caused the 1993 World Trade Center bombings? 9/11? Trump wasn't involved... These groups have existed longer than any of us have been on this Earth. It's nothing new. They need to be dealt with, plain and simple.
I think the meme is off by a few more years because 20 does not seem right but the sentiment is the same.
The media is driven by views and clicks, so unfortunately they're incentivized to make the most polarizing headline/story they can from an issue - even if it misrepresents the issue.
They definitely are. But correlation doesn't always equal causation. In other words. Is the banning done because those countries are majority muslim, or is the banning done because those countries are hotbeds for terrorism, and by unrelated chance they happen to be majority muslim?
Alternatively if there was an outbreak of disease in the Indian subcontinent, and we couldn't tell which people traveling from there carried the disease (similar to terrorism in the middle east), and there was a temporary ban on travel from India, Nepal, Bangladesh, Indonesia and Sri Lanka - would that be presented as a ban against Hindus? Or is it that Islam is much more of a "hot topic" and that's why the current ban is presented as such?
I have to hone in on this one -- completely, 100%, without a shadow of a doubt disagree...wholeheartedly disagree. If this was religion-based decision, why did he not ban individuals from Indonesia....by far and away the largest collection is muslims? This notion makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
I agree with you, I was just trying to point out that there was at least a correlation. I don't think it was a Muslim ban, but it's not completely out of left field.
My personal opinion is that he was selecting countries where HE thinks terrorists are coming from and just trying to show his arm of power off a bit. Why did he omit Saudi? Because the country does not have any way to vet properly???? C'mon now.... something is fishy here. Indonesia is where half of the shit we sell over here comes from. That would put Walmart out of business and I have not looked into it yet but I would bet my ass that HE has some business dealings with Indonesia as well!
He calculated it this way for a reason. I think he is an asshole but he is not a dummy! He knows what he is doing.
He used the same seven countries that the Obama Administration deemed the largest threat. I am sure if the Trump Admin, through their own due diligence, feels more or less are warranted, they will adjust for that. He's been in office for less than 1.5 weeks...come on now.
But the countries listed being those the Obama Admin themselves deemed the largest threat is pretty-openly reported.
I thought it was foolish of Obama too though. I'm just feeling like this will piss off the wrong group is all. Ego is what will destroy this world.
Big problem. But that's what the media does. Not at all surprising.
And all of us need to be ok with admitting that those countries that are majority muslim have many radicals living there. That's just the plain truth. So it makes perfectly good sense for people of those countries to be scrutinized.
I tried quoting @chick_bleeds_carolina_blue's poast that included that stupid and inaccurate meme with Lawrence Fishburn. No, terrorism didn't start 20 years ago. It actually started in the 1960s and probably would have started sooner had terrorists had means of terrorizing before that.
Oh there's definitely correlation. Just like there's correlation between murders and IE usage. I wonder if there's any causation here:
Well then why give merit to the argument that Trump's banning is "religious based". It's not. It's geographically based. But your comment that I quoted implied it was "fishy" or something.
Not an asshole but he wasn't the right man for foreign policy, no. His demeanor is much, much kinder than Trump. Trump is a very self-absorbed man and he is a bully. You can deny it all you want but if Obama had been that way, you would have called him out on it continuously. Trump is a business man. Now I have heard that he has went bankrupt a few times and has been ruthless, but I do not know for a FACT that is true, but he has been successful from the looks of it, in business. Trump is a misogynist all day long too. I've heard it coming right out of his mouth and you will never convince me otherwise. He is a pig! period! Let a man speak to your daughters that way and see how you feel.
*has gone
As far as him being an asshole, I see that as completely irrelevant to his ability to get our economy back on track. As far as him being a misogynist, proof or it didn't happen.
Yes, there is a causation there. If they stopped using IE, then their browsing experience was more enjoyable. If it's more enjoyable, then more time is spent online watching other people's daughters. That leaves less time and opportunity for murder.Oh there's definitely correlation. Just like there's correlation between murders and IE usage. I wonder if there's any causation here:
Sound logic. I concur.
Just trying to say you could make a connection to Muslims and that it wasn't something out of left field, especially considering he said at one point that he was going to do that during the campaign. If they would have said it was a ban on three legged horses then that would have made no sense because you can't make a connection.
Where the hell were you last year? You somehow missed all those beautiful things he said TO women and about them? You lucky bastard, you!
Do you guys agree that IF he were next to begin a Muslim "round up" of sorts here in the states, that would be okay? Make them all register or something crazy like that?
I'm not a trump supporter. I didnt vote for him. I do Not have a prob with muslims per se. In fact i have more probs with christians these days truth be told. But This is way overblown imo and totally mischaracterized. Bi do have a prob with people being delayed who have current visas and have lived here without incident for years.
I'd wager far more muslims travel here from eastern europe than any other
Area. But u cant track travel by religious affiliation....
I'd wager far more muslims travel here from eastern europe than any other
Area. But u cant track travel by religious affiliation....
No, I would not approve of that.
But I would approve of a registry for folks that are related to known terrorists, or once lived next door to known terrorists, or once had a three way with a goat and a known terrorist, etc.
Few things:
1. Trump is a business man, and the shape our economy is in, that is exactly what we have needed for a long time.
2. Going bankrupt isn't always as bad as that sounds. EVERY successful individual has failed at some point in time, in whatever field they are in. You simply cannot innovate and try to push the envelope without hitting a few brick walls. Since the laws exist to dissolve companies once you realize they aren't working, without sacrificing your entire personal wealth outside of that / those company(ies), then you'd be a complete idiot not to use those laws. That argument is, and always has been, completely irrelevant with regards to his handling of this economy. His successes far outweigh the failures.
3. If he talked to my daughters tat way, I'd knock all of his teeth out, wait for him to get them fixed, and then knock them out again. Then I'd tell his ass to get back to working on what we elected him to do.
That help?
No and i think vast majority would agree. However another 9/11 would prob change that. Which is what i'm afraid of and what they want-a religous war.
Good lord, no...nor do I think that is even in the realm of possibilities. I'd stop drinking the CNN kool-aid now. Wow.
I do not watch ANY of those news channels, but thanks. I hope he does not do this but if he does, then what?
A round up? That'd be asinine.
If by "registering" you mean becoming citizens/documented aliens like everyone else - yes I'd approve of that.
