Many of the power brokers at UGa are reportedly ready to move on. Richt is one of my favorite coaches in CF and has had injuries to play makers and hasn't been able to find a 1st rate QB this year. He is a genuine good guy and there's not many left.
Richt's seat is getting really hot
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i started there, golf scholly out of hs...i still talk to many that are big boosters...they met friday, even before the florida game to discuss richt and his situation...one guy told me that he's already moved on kirby smart...i was kinda surprised considering what they have coming in and their "problems"...they should be winning the east at this point with a down sc team, florida starting again, and tennessee still trying to get back...i get it, kinda like maryland in basketball...sometimes the message wears out.
i really have no love for the program or school...they asked me, basically, to leave so there's never been any sort of defense for me...i do respect the football program and richt though...he's a helluva guy and a great head coach...he's made dumb staff hires, but considering what he's had to deal with as far as suspensions, injuries, and staff turnover, he deserves a break.
i really have no love for the program or school...they asked me, basically, to leave so there's never been any sort of defense for me...i do respect the football program and richt though...he's a helluva guy and a great head coach...he's made dumb staff hires, but considering what he's had to deal with as far as suspensions, injuries, and staff turnover, he deserves a break.
Some coaches become stale at a school and need to move on, perhaps for the good of both the coach and the school.
Richt is a classic good guy coach. That ought to appeal to UVA. Because Richt is a Miami grad, it also ought to appeal to Miami.
Richt is a classic good guy coach. That ought to appeal to UVA. Because Richt is a Miami grad, it also ought to appeal to Miami.
Richt is a great guy and I would LOVE it if Baddour hadn't F'd up (yet again) and had hired him.
At UGA though, he and his staff have under-achieved for 10 years. Honestly, I can't believe he's still there. A lot of UGA fans have been ready for him to leave for a good 3-4 seasons. I will absolutely love it if they get rid of Richt and hire Smart, preventing SCar from doing so
Also, I don't want to hear the injury excuse for UGA. Fact is, they've failed to recruit a good QB to replace Murray. That's on the staff. Zero reason why you can't recruit a future pro QB to UGA. Zero reason. An Atlanta college football radio guy I like always says the same thing about Richt: "He'll win you between 9-11 games a year, but you'll never challenge for a national title with him." It's so true, at least at UGA.
At UGA though, he and his staff have under-achieved for 10 years. Honestly, I can't believe he's still there. A lot of UGA fans have been ready for him to leave for a good 3-4 seasons. I will absolutely love it if they get rid of Richt and hire Smart, preventing SCar from doing so
Also, I don't want to hear the injury excuse for UGA. Fact is, they've failed to recruit a good QB to replace Murray. That's on the staff. Zero reason why you can't recruit a future pro QB to UGA. Zero reason. An Atlanta college football radio guy I like always says the same thing about Richt: "He'll win you between 9-11 games a year, but you'll never challenge for a national title with him." It's so true, at least at UGA.
when you consider the recruiting advantages of being in the best conferences and one of the best states for high school recruiting, and when you consider their great recruiting classes year after year, there's no doubt georgia has under-achieved.
I dont think he will be gone soon ... its going to take a few more years before UGA makes a move. He recruits well there but just doesnt seem to turn that talent into championship teams.
I disagree. I listen to ATL sports talk radio every single day and I think he's gone at the end of this season. If not, he will be gone after next season. The message is just stale. Almost no one is still on board with Richt. Heck, even their AD didn't exactly give a strong affirmation of faith in Richt when asked about him a couple days ago.
He may be a good guy, but schools and fan bases (especially fan bases) want wins. They want another Vince Dooley. Otherwise, their legacy is quickly fading. It should fade, too. Georgia, as far as I can tell, hasn't really been a fraction of what their name brings since Herschel Walker. That's been 30 years. The whole Between The Hedges legacy is dying. Whatever dominance they may have ever had has now dwindled to just fond memory of the Dooley Years. Richt is never going to deliver anything more than he has delivered.
100% agree. Best thing they have going for them, though, is a massive built-in fanbase and it's still a really, really appealing job.
Unless I am mistaken Ramsey was highly rated but I think they also passed on some guys that they shouldn't have. They have a commit from Jacob Eason one of the 2 top QB prospects in 2016. When they named Lambert the starter this year my 1st thought was uh-oh this a'int good.Richt is a great guy and I would LOVE it if Baddour hadn't F'd up (yet again) and had hired him.
At UGA though, he and his staff have under-achieved for 10 years. Honestly, I can't believe he's still there. A lot of UGA fans have been ready for him to leave for a good 3-4 seasons. I will absolutely love it if they get rid of Richt and hire Smart, preventing SCar from doing so
Also, I don't want to hear the injury excuse for UGA. Fact is, they've failed to recruit a good QB to replace Murray. That's on the staff. Zero reason why you can't recruit a future pro QB to UGA. Zero reason. An Atlanta college football radio guy I like always says the same thing about Richt: "He'll win you between 9-11 games a year, but you'll never challenge for a national title with him." It's so true, at least at UGA.
Richt has under-achieved, but how much? His all time win % through 2014 was .739. Vince Dooley's is .698.
Basically, Richt is slightly better than Dooley but without a National title. Dooley also did not coach while Florida won a couple of National titles and Auburn won one.
Yeah but wasn't this about 15 years ago or when Mack left? (and 'ol Dicky B screwed it up... again)? If so, don't you think we'd have been much better off with Richt at the helm for 15 years than all the crap we've had to endure: Torbush, Bunting, Butch (scandal)?
I live in Atlanta and surrounded by UGA'ers almost daily at work. They want Richt gone. They wanted him gone the last few years and seat has been warm to hot the last few years. Believe it's hotter than ever right now. If I were a betting man, and I do on occasion, I say he's gone. My co-worker, A UGA'er wants Charlie Strong if he leaves Texas.
I'm terrified of the possibility that Richt could end up at Miami, VT or UVa. That speaks volumes to what I think of him.
The answer IMHO is yes. I think we would have been a better fit for Richt there would have definitely been less pressure.
Agreed. No doubt he would have any one of those programs consistently in the Top 25, and if he took the UM job, he would likely have them contending for playoffs in a few years.
Richt might not get VT any higher than Beamer did, but he almost certainly would get VT back above where Beamer has the Hokies now. Richt might never be able to win a National title at Miami, but he certainly would have Miami better and more consistent than the Canes have been since Coker's 3rd year. And no doubt, Richt would do far more for UVA than London has.
Maybe, but that isn't saying much. If he only produced what he has produced at UGA, then I'm not that impressed.
UGa played in an SEC championship game. It would have been a hell of a lot easier getting there from our division than the one he is in. It is only speculation but I'd go back right now and substitute Richt in those years and besides there would have been no John Blake.
That's awesome. But, where is he now? He promises and never delivers. He's not taking that program any higher. I have more confidence in Chizik than Richt.
Oh definitely at this point, I agree. Just saying that if we had hired him instead of Torbush, then he would've likely kept us relevant.
I would have taken the 3 BCS bowls Richt guided his team to compared to our last 15 years. Just saying.
So you are not impressed in the least by a higher winning percentage than Vince Dooley? And that at the time when SEC football was the strongest and most deep in its entire history?
There's 0% chance he goes to UVA and like 3% chance he goes to VT. He wouldn't "fit" in any either of those places.
I'd say there's a 25% chance he could go to Miami.
Why do you say that Richt would not fit at UVA? His religious beliefs would put him outside the pale of more than a few UVA administrators. And he lacks the non-white race factor that allows the same people to embrace London though a white former cop would never be tolerated by them. But UVA people also place a top premium on being a 'good guy,' which Richt is in spades. He has adopted children. He and his wife work with a large number of charities. He is squeaky clean in CFB terms.
And here is a key point: Athens, GA is a much more Liberal and party town than Charlottesville. Athens is the gay capital of SEC towns.
As for fitting at VT - the simple fact is that virtually any coach not already part of the VT family is going to find it very hard to fit in Blacksburg. A sizable percentage of VT fans will see any lack of success by a coach from outside the VT family as proof that Foster and/or Beamer JR should have been elevated to HC.
If the Miami administration wants a new HC who exudes Good Guy, Richt as an alum is as good as it gets. His Good Guy reputation is secure, and he has won the SEC.
This is a huge reach. Yes, Athens has a hipster downtown, but UGA is an extremely conservative campus, politically, and the town of Athens -- overall -- leans very Republican just like all of Georgia minus Fulton County. I've lived in Athens.
And beyond that, I just can't see Richt at UVA. Just doesn't seem like a fit. Honestly, I can't see him anywhere else. I think he'll hang it up if UGA lets him go.
Just was in my car listening to the radio while heading around the corner to get some caffeine.
It is all Mark Richt should-he-stay-or-should-he-go talk on the radio. Nonstop. And about 5 out of every 6 callers that call in want him gone. Most aren't even indignant, necessarily, they're just ready for a new era.
It is all Mark Richt should-he-stay-or-should-he-go talk on the radio. Nonstop. And about 5 out of every 6 callers that call in want him gone. Most aren't even indignant, necessarily, they're just ready for a new era.
that's what scar fans used to say to defend spurrier: they play in such a tough conference and so forth. well, that coin has two sides. playing in the best conference is a huge advantage for landing the top recruits, getting media attention, etc. the point is that other sec coaches exploited those advantages and richt not so much in recent years.
If he's all that, then he wouldn't be on the hotseat. He'd be coaching until he decided to retire... like Dooley- At the time of his retirement, he was the second-winningest coach in SEC history, behind only Bryant.
On UVa - I agree.
On VT - I disagree. VT is far more conservative than most universities so from that perspective, he's a fit. In regards to VT fans wanting Bud or Shane, that's not true. In fact, many are scared that Shane may stick around. They like Bud and some are calling for him to be hired. But many don't want that because of the risk that he'll keep Shane on. Foster cannot and will not get that job. He's too rough around the edges. He can coach, but he'll struggle in media duties and interaction with administration, boosters, and parents.
On Miami - don't know.
Have you ever heard of fans who demand heads that should not be demanded? If not, you know little about sports. Fulmer was the best HC Tennessee had in a very long time, but Viols fans demanded he be forced out. Tennessee is still trying to recover.
Winningest by % or by total Ws? General Neyland won higher than 80% of his games. Military service meant he could not coach as many games as others. He missed about 7 years.
All Dooley has over Richt is 1 magical year that meant a national title. That and that alone makes Dooley the best coach in UGA history. Richt is the 2nd best coach in UGA history. Fans who demand to replace the 2nd best coach in a program's history are at best impatient and reckless.
Yes, coaches get old and go over the hill. Beamer is now Exhibit A. But Richt is neither old nor over the hill. Forcing him out could do to UGA what forcing out Fulmer did to the Vols.
i know many uva fans here in richmond and most of them are Christians, like myself. i'm sure they are 100% comfortable with richt's beliefs, just as unc fans were comfortable with a devout Christian named dean smith. what they may not be comfortable with however is richt's use of football to proselytize his particular brand of Christianity. some of us believe that football is a respite from the serious issues of life and football is for all fans of that school --not just the ones who share that coach's theology.
just as unc fans were comfortable with a devout Christian named dean smith
absolutely incorrect.
jimmy, you may want to stop re-writing Carolina history, Dean did not come blowing into CH as some heavy devout type Christian. He taught by example. Dean may have had certain beliefs but he was never trumpeting them all about publicly as some fools do today.
absolutely incorrect.
jimmy, you may want to stop re-writing Carolina history, Dean did not come blowing into CH as some heavy devout type Christian. He taught by example. Dean may have had certain beliefs but he was never trumpeting them all about publicly as some fools do today.
That counts for a great deal. He also had UGA in the AP Top 5 for four years in a row.
I really don't care if they fire Richt or keep him for another 50 years. His teams never seem to find greatness. UGA fans experienced college football greatness, so they feel they should have it again. Richt doesn't seem to have what it takes. The more they under-perform and look mediocre, the greater the Dooley years look, and for obvious reasons.
I can't help that UT fans got tired of waiting for Fulmer to show an encore. That's their problem. Clemson fans wanted another Danny Ford. That is why they canned Bowden. Swinney has them at, or near, the top of the mountain consistently. His job is very safe!
All I really care about is Fedora and Chizik making UNC a team that can achieve greatness.
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Richt would of been perfect for The Nebraska job last year.. But he didn't entertain the opportunity.
