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strummingram said:
You might pass for a dog. You're pretty hairy, right?

Live the rest of your life barking and eating dog food from a bowl. Be my guest! You'll be missed.
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Soooo,...are you saying that in your incredibly informed opinion that you would support me peeing anywhere I wanted to because I identify as a dog? And eat dog food and bark? I don't think you're getting it. I'm not really identifying as a dog. I'm only going to say that I do to be able to pull my pecker out in front of people and piss. You're so silly.
 
gunslingerdick said:
Soooo,...are you saying that in your incredibly informed opinion that you would support me peeing anywhere I wanted to because I identify as a dog? And eat dog food and bark? I don't think you're getting it. I'm not really identifying as a dog. I'm only going to say that I do to be able to pull my pecker out in front of people and piss. You're so silly.
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The point is NOBODY DOES THAT........nobody
 
gunslingerdick said:
I don't think you're getting it. I'm not really identifying as a dog.
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I know what you're saying. That is why you are forever ignorant on this whole matter.

The people that are the focus of this issue are REALLY IDENTIFYING to these genders. Making up hypotheticals based on PRETENDING is just refusing to accept it for that it truly is. You're trying to justify the potentially deviant behaviors (that happen with or without this kind of law) by creating completely ludicrous possibilities, that are openly being portrayed as pretending, in order to deny people who are not pretending, the right to go where they feel is appropriate. You're trying to support denying them their liberty by fabricating something you're not, and trying to use it as a parallel. Congratulations.
 
strummingram said:
I know what you're saying. That is why you are forever ignorant on this whole matter.

The people that are the focus of this issue are REALLY IDENTIFYING to these genders. Making up hypotheticals based on PRETENDING is just refusing to accept it for that it truly is. You're trying to justify the potentially deviant behaviors (that happen with or without this kind of law) by creating completely ludicrous possibilities, that are openly being portrayed as pretending, in order to deny people who are not pretending, the right to go where they feel is appropriate. You're trying to support denying them their liberty by fabricating something you're not, and trying to use it as a parallel. Congratulations.
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Yes, you nailed it. I'm mocking a situation that find completely absurd. Yes. For once, you are exactly right. But what I'm also doing is showing what a slippery slope this is and how easily a ruling like this can be manipulated. Maybe I'll be the one to manipulate it.
 
Hark_The_Sound_2010 said:
How can you get hit up for voyeurism if you're in a locker room you're allowed to be in and just looking around!?!?
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I'm assuming the premise is that a man lies about being a tranny to access the ladies room to look at naked women for his sexual gratification. Thats voyeurism. If a male goes into a mens room and stares at your penis thats voyeurism as well.
 
gunslingerdick said:
Yes, you nailed it. I'm mocking a situation that find completely absurd. Yes. For once, you are exactly right. But what I'm also doing is showing what a slippery slope this is and how easily a ruling like this can be manipulated. Maybe I'll be the one to manipulate it.
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There is no slippery slope. It's going to be hard to manipulate what's not there. But, I'm confident that you will try your best.
 
Heres the deal. Whats gonna happen is that public facilities will all become unisex. With provision for all of us to hide our wee wees and va jay jays from the prying eyes of the perverts evidently roaming public bathrooms for a glimpse of urine escaping genitalia. Then it'll be what it was before this dumbass law made nc a laughingstock, a non issue. So until then i trust the majority of people will use common sense and monitor their kids n public bathrooms and notify the authorities if a man in a dirty white tank top is lurking in the ladies room masturbating.
 
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Hark_The_Sound_2010 said:
As stated by me a few times in this thread, and a few times in the other thread on the same subject, this is the situation that I've been discussing the whole time. The possibility of heterosexual men using it to exploit the situation. Or in other words..... ITS NOT ABOUT THE TRANNIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He knows this but it destroys his argument ... trust me, waste of time.
 
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heelmanwilm said:
I'm assuming the premise is that a man lies about being a tranny to access the ladies room to look at naked women for his sexual gratification. Thats voyeurism. If a male goes into a mens room and stares at your penis thats voyeurism as well.
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But how could you prove he's staring at anyone and not just in there doing his thing? See my poast halfway up the page.
 
gunslingerdick said:
But how could you prove he's staring at anyone and not just in there doing his thing? See my poast halfway up the page.
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Its kinda like defining porn. U know it when u see it. If you're in a bathroom i wager u can tell when someone is looking at you lustfully vs being normal. If thats the case u notify the police or security. 1000% of the time if the person is a perv they leave when they hear u call. Will it be enough to get them arrested if thats all they're doing?Prob not. But he's gone and he's probably lost his boner as well.
 
If we can bust some butt on ooogling eyes of lust in the bathroom then maybe we can pass a law so no one can stare at anyone for longer than a few seconds because it might cause someone to feel uncomfortable and then when we are all offended because men and women look lustfully at images on TV, magazines, porn, etc we can ban all of that. Once that isn't enough we can start putting planks in everyone's eyes too. Problem solved!!! Are you sure you guys aren't closet liberals??? Hmmm o_O
 
heelmanwilm said:
I'm assuming the premise is that a man lies about being a tranny to access the ladies room to look at naked women for his sexual gratification. Thats voyeurism. If a male goes into a mens room and stares at your penis thats voyeurism as well.
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Thankfully you understand the issue I'm asking about and aren't thinking its a tranny issue. You're absolutely right that's voyeurism, I just don't see how that will get prosecuted even rarely. Seems like a he said she said deal.
 
strummingram said:
There is no slippery slope. It's going to be hard to manipulate what's not there. But, I'm confident that you will try your best.
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Most adults are educated enough to know that the slippery slope is a type of fallacy though... but it appears to be GSD's go to move on the subject. Sad.
 
tarheel0910 said:
People like to cite that, but it's very misleading. Between deductions and the fact that was just the top marginal tax rate, the effective tax rate for the "rich" was well below 90%. I believe the inflation adjusted amount for that bracket is over two million, so very few people got to that bracket.
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And do you seriously believe that the effective tax rate now for top level earners now is anywhere near 40%?...
 
heelmanwilm said:
Without hb2

Hetero man claims to be a trans and enters ladies room and commits act of perversion, women leave and call police

Man Gets arrested

With hb2

Hetero man illegally enters ladies room and commits act of perversion, women leave and call police

Man Gets arrested
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Without HB2

Hetero man walks into YMCA shower and strips down naked in the ladies locker room. Women and girls are disgusted but can do nothing because there are no rules that prohibit this action.

Man enjoys his shower and observing the naked females.

With HB2

Hetero man walks into YMCA shower and strips down naked in the ladies locker room. Women and girls tell the staff and call police.

Man gets arrested.
 
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bleeduncblue said:
Without HB2

Hetero man walks into YMCA shower and strips down naked in the ladies locker room. Women and girls are disgusted but can do nothing because there are no rules that prohibit this action.

Man enjoys his shower and observing the naked females.

With HB2

Hetero man walks into YMCA shower and strips down naked in the ladies locker room. Women and girls tell the staff and call police.

Man gets arrested.
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ummmmm some females will laugh and make fun of his TinyD and tell him that we see WHY he can't get laid and has to resort to walking in the YMCA shower with women/girls to get off.. he's pitiful as well as disgusting! :)
 
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bleeduncblue said:
Okay. I dont want the situation to be an option at all .... little johnson or not.

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In all seriousness, I really do not think it will be more of a problem than it HAS BEEN in the past, which exists but is really minimal.... now OUTSIDE of the bathroom, different story! We get harassed in some demeaning way constantly! Like anything else a few will take advantage but they are not about to make absolute coed showers at the Y or high schools... maybe they should and it might just take away all the shame we associate with our nudity and sexuality. I think we have made a big issue out of nothing that hasn't already existed to a small degree.
 
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chick_bleeds_carolina_blue said:
In all seriousness, I really do not think it will be more of a problem than it HAS BEEN in the past, which exists but is really minimal.... now OUTSIDE of the bathroom, different story! We get harassed in some demeaning way constantly! Like anything else a few will take advantage but they are not about to make absolute coed showers at the Y or high schools... maybe they should and it might just take away all the shame we associate with our nudity and sexuality. I think we have made a big issue out of nothing that hasn't already existed to a small degree.
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Yeah we just agree to disagree. I think it's like speed limits - they exist (like gender signs/rules) but some folks still break the law ... remove the speed limits and all kinds of misfits will go as fast as possible and cause serious harm. You dont think that will happen with the restrooms/locker rooms, I do.

I honestly do not know a single female IN PERSON who likes the idea of sharing public restrooms and locker rooms with men, regardless of their "identity" ... and I live and work in RDU, not in some backwoods rural area.
 
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bleeduncblue said:
Yeah we just agree to disagree. I think it's like speed limits - they exist (like gender signs/rules) but some folks still break the law ... remove the speed limits and all kinds of misfits will go as fast as possible and cause serious harm. You dont think that will happen with the restrooms/locker rooms, I do.

I honestly do not know a single female IN PERSON who likes the idea of sharing public restrooms and locker rooms with men, regardless of their "identity" ... and I live and work in RDU, not in some backwoods rural area.
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I don't like the idea either but not for the reasons I guess everyone else has... I dread seeing piss everywhere! Men's rooms are nasty and smell horrible!
 
bleeduncblue said:
Without HB2

Hetero man walks into YMCA shower and strips down naked in the ladies locker room. Women and girls are disgusted but can do nothing because there are no rules that prohibit this action.
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Complete bullocks. He could be charged with open lewdness, indecent exposure, unlawful contact, or even sexual assault depending on the nature of his actions.

bleeduncblue said:
... remove the speed limits and all kinds of misfits will go as fast as possible and cause serious harm.
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Probably not the best example you could've used.

The [National Motorists Association] study shows the safest period on Montana’s Interstate highways was when there were no daytime speed limits or enforceable speed laws. The doubling of fatal accidents occurred after Montana implemented its new safety program; complete with federal funding, artificially low speed limits and full enforcement.
 
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bleeduncblue said:
Without HB2

Hetero man walks into YMCA shower and strips down naked in the ladies locker room. Women and girls are disgusted but can do nothing because there are no rules that prohibit this action.

Man enjoys his shower and observing the naked females.

With HB2

Hetero man walks into YMCA shower and strips down naked in the ladies locker room. Women and girls tell the staff and call police.

Man gets arrested.
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Well actually not, ymca and ywca both have had policies in place for years allowing trannies to use bathrooms of their choice.
 
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chick_bleeds_carolina_blue said:
maybe they should and it might just take away all the shame we associate with our nudity and sexuality.
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Ok, I have now realized that you must be Strum's alternate account after this statement. Although props on not using the word "fear" that would have made you a dead giveaway.

chick_bleeds_carolina_blue said:
Men's rooms are nasty and smell horrible!
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How would you know.... unless you've been going into a bathroom you don't identify with! :p
 
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Hark_The_Sound_2010 said:
Ok, I have now realized that you must be Strum's alternate account after this statement. Although props on not using the word "fear" that would have made you a dead giveaway.



How would you know.... unless you've been going into a bathroom you don't identify with! :p
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no, i am not strum, you can call me if you want me to prove that... he seems cool and all but doesn't strike me as being a barrel of fun all the time! haha When I was in college I worked at a restaurant and had to clean the nasty men's room when we closed! That is how I know! duh
 
chick_bleeds_carolina_blue said:
no, i am not strum,
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Use "fear" from now on. Am I talking to myself?

If you happen to think like the minority, then you MUST be their "alternate account." I must be the only person that ever made the connection that associating fear, guilt and shame to our bodies, especially the dreaded "private parts", will have potentially adverse affects on our behaviors (some of us, anyway). Maybe I'm more female than male. Uh-oh... which bathroom do I use now? I mean, which bathroom do WE use now? Talking to myself again

I do feel a little flattered that the one female that ever showed-up here (that I know of) also happens to have some parallels with me. Maybe I should create an an alternate account and make her female. It would be more fun to make one who identifies with the usual conservative minds here. Truth is, I'm too lazy to create an alternate account for any reason at all. I like being just me.
 
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strummingram said:
Use "fear" from now on. Am I talking to myself?

If you happen to think like the minority, then you MUST be their "alternate account." I must be the only person that ever made the connection that associating fear, guilt and shame to our bodies, especially the dreaded "private parts", will have potentially adverse affects on our behaviors (some of us, anyway). Maybe I'm more female than male. Uh-oh... which bathroom do I use now? I mean, which bathroom do WE use now? Talking to myself again

I do feel a little flattered that the one female that ever showed-up here (that I know of) also happens to have some parallels with me. Maybe I should create an an alternate account and make her female. It would be more fun to make one who identifies with the usual conservative minds here.
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apparently if we think alike we are the same person! hahahaha I just happen to agree with most of what you say... they must not like you very much on here.
 
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