Seriously, some Trump supporters are just... hilarious.

[strummingram]

I'm always amazed how human beings find there's a need to restrict people in the way that they can love one another. I will add one caveat that consensual is the key ingredient. If more than one person is involved there needs to be some consensuality.

 

[Blue2010]

I'm not spinning anything.

I'm just making it clear how acting out with violence just creates more violence and rape is an act of violence.

I understand exactly what you're saying. I just think you're drastically overanalyzing it.

I get it - you're a philosophical thinker and enjoy placing universal wisdom above granular situations. That is all well and good...I have no issue with that. My only stance is that there are times when basic common sense trumps any-and-all philosophies -- this case, IMO, is one of those times.

 

[strummingram]

I understand exactly what you're saying. I just think you're drastically overanalyzing it.

I get it - you're a philosophical thinker and enjoy placing universal wisdom above granular situations. That is all well and good...I have no issue with that. My only stance is that there are times when basic common sense trumps any-and-all philosophies -- this case, IMO, is one of those times.

I think you're confusing common sense and wisdom as being different. The instinct of revenge is not common sense. It's common PRACTICE, but not common sense.

But, thanks for the props.

 

[Blue2010]

I think you're confusing common sense and wisdom as being different. The instinct of revenge is not common sense. It's common PRACTICE, but not common sense.

But, thanks for the props.

Anytime, man!

Again, though, I couldn't care less about the terminology you chose to give it. There are some instances when philosophical beliefs just don't suffice. If it means violence is the best approach to handle the situation, so be it. Determining that threshold obviously lies with the individual in question - that being me here - and I'm telling you I would be MORE than justified in any action necessary to protect my daughters.

 

[heelmanwilm]

I see your point but boy did you open a can of worms when you went there!

There are many types of sexual behavior which were once considered "abnormal" that are now routinely accepted. We keep expanding the definition of what is "normal". Will pedophilia one day be considered "normal", simply because there is a certain percentage of the population which practices it? Who arbitrarily says that 18 is the minimum age to be considered an "adult" and have consensual sex?

Marriage was once defined as a union of a heterosexual male and a heterosexual female. That definition is being redefined right before our eyes. What if I want to have multiple wives. Isn't that my right as long as I'm not hurting anyone and my "wives" agree? So should the discrimination against polygamists be tolerated?

My point being, where do you draw the line? Is anything and everything "normal" just because it feels good or you want to do it? We have lost our moral compass.

Those are great questions. Have u noticed that morality seems to be going in a circle? Just think about it. Ancient civilizations considered it normal to pretty much bang anything u wanted. U could have multiple wives, marry prepubescent girls, screw goats, and heaven forbid a wife resist your sexual advances. Then the gamut swung over thousands of years to the opposite extreme. The victorian age. Where sex was shameful and women bound their breasts and divorce got u ostracized. Hell anal sex was outlawed in NC until like twenty years ago. Now its swinging back the other way. The only moral compass is society. Society is slowly but ever so surely embracing homosexuality, transgenderism, and eventually we'll prob see pedophilia to some degree. The age of consent has gone down steadily after all. I bet it'll be 13 in our lifetimes.

 

[Archer2]

Things do tend to come full circle, heelman, social mores included. I think the USA is entering an era of moral depravity, much like the Roman Empire did just prior to it's collapse.

 

[Blue2010]

Things do tend to come full circle, heelman, social mores included. I think the USA is entering an era of moral depravity, much like the Roman Empire did just prior to it's collapse.

I agree -- I've heard this comparison on a number of occasions. It's eerily similar, which is pretty scary.

 

[Archer2]

I agree -- I've heard this comparison on a number of occasions. It's eerily similar, which is pretty scary.

When the leading candidates for POTUS are Hillary and Donald, two of the most corrupt individuals to ever run for the office, you know our moral gas tank is on empty. Regardless of who gets elected, we're doomed.

 

[strummingram]

Those are great questions. Have u noticed that morality seems to be going in a circle? Just think about it. Ancient civilizations considered it normal to pretty much bang anything u wanted. U could have multiple wives, marry prepubescent girls, screw goats, and heaven forbid a wife resist your sexual advances. Then the gamut swung over thousands of years to the opposite extreme. The victorian age. Where sex was shameful and women bound their breasts and divorce got u ostracized. Hell anal sex was outlawed in NC until like twenty years ago. Now its swinging back the other way. The only moral compass is society. Society is slowly but ever so surely embracing homosexuality, transgenderism, and eventually we'll prob see pedophilia to some degree. The age of consent has gone down steadily after all. I bet it'll be 13 in our lifetimes.

Good post.

But, weren't women being wed in the 18th and 19th centuries, even through the mid-20th centuries when they were 11, 12, 13 etc.? I mean, the lifespan was much lower due to diseases like smallpox, whatever.

I agree 100% that "Society" is the true moral compass. I just feel very strongly that all the guilt and shame that gets put on sexuality is a major contributor to what becomes "sex crimes." Repression is not a something that serves us.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

I see pedophilia as an illness that needs to be treated.

As was mentioned previously, but I'm late to the party, the same thing was said about homosexuality not too long ago. Will we see the day that pedophilia is allowed, and considered a normal desire, and not to be discriminated against? If not, why not?

I'm always amazed how human beings find there's a need to restrict people in the way that they can love one another. I will add one caveat that consensual is the key ingredient. If more than one person is involved there needs to be some consensuality.

Agreed. And what constitutes consensuality? If you can find some 2 year old who only knows the word "yes" and ask him/her if you can have sex with them, and they respond "yes" are you good to go?

Also - I must say anyone who thinks that making a law that restricts murder is bad is a complete moron. And having the ability to kill whoever you want is indeed a freedom, so I don't wanna hear that crap that its not a freedom, its just a freedom that should be restricted.

 

[tarheel0910]

I must say anyone who thinks that making a law that restricts murder is bad is a complete moron.

Well, that would depend on who you want to murder.

 

[strummingram]

As was mentioned previously, but I'm late to the party, the same thing was said about homosexuality not too long ago. Will we see the day that pedophilia is allowed, and considered a normal desire, and not to be discriminated against? If not, why not?



Agreed. And what constitutes consensuality? If you can find some 2 year old who only knows the word "yes" and ask him/her if you can have sex with them, and they respond "yes" are you good to go?

Also - I must say anyone who thinks that making a law that restricts murder is bad is a complete moron. And having the ability to kill whoever you want is indeed a freedom, so I don't wanna hear that crap that its not a freedom, its just a freedom that should be restricted.

I think Freedom, in and of itself, discourages the instinct to cause harm to other people... true freedom, I mean. You have to be willing to give what you want to get. And, be responsible for getting what you have given!

And, you can have laws forbidding people to murder, but when the state murders people for murdering, you shouldn't be surprised when the people mimic the state! Execution is murder.

 

[strummingram]

By the way; Anyone thinking that I started this to bash Trump supporters? Let me clarify this.

The point of showing these people, in my opinion, is to reveal how allying yourself with a political group can produce less-than-pleasurable results. Political institutions thrive on- in fact exist because of- rifts in society. When you associate yourself with one, and ONLY one, of these groups, or sides, or parties, then that can create unintended consequences. One of those consequences is when people, like those shown here, go off-the-reservation and show what it looks like when politicians exploit their fears. You feel lumped-in with them, when you're really not like them at all. Or, maybe you ARE like them and it bothers you that you ARE like them!

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

By the way; Anyone thinking that I started this to bash Trump supporters? Let me clarify this.

The point of showing these people, in my opinion, is to reveal how allying yourself with a political group can produce less-than-pleasurable results. Political institutions thrive on- in fact exist because of- rifts in society. When you associate yourself with one, and ONLY one, of these groups, or sides, or parties, then that can create unintended consequences. One of those consequences is when people, like those shown here, go off-the-reservation and show what it looks like when politicians exploit their fears. You feel lumped-in with them, when you're really not like them at all. Or, maybe you ARE like them and it bothers you that you ARE like them!

Bingo!!!!!

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

You have to be willing to give what you want to get. And, be responsible for getting what you have given!

As I've stated countless times on here to you - just because you treat people the way you want to be treated doesn't mean that everyone else will. And expecting them to is a dangerous idea.

And, you can have laws forbidding people to murder, but when the state murders people for murdering, you shouldn't be surprised when the people mimic the state! Execution is murder.

There are times when killing someone is justified. Killing someone isn't necessarily murder. I think there should be laws in place to prevent murder, but killing someone when justified is acceptable. And I think you're off base if you think that someone literally thinks "Well gee, the State kills people, so I should be able to shoot this guy" right before they murder someone.

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

As was mentioned previously, but I'm late to the party, the same thing was said about homosexuality not too long ago. Will we see the day that pedophilia is allowed, and considered a normal desire, and not to be discriminated against? If not, why not?



Agreed. And what constitutes consensuality? If you can find some 2 year old who only knows the word "yes" and ask him/her if you can have sex with them, and they respond "yes" are you good to go?

Also - I must say anyone who thinks that making a law that restricts murder is bad is a complete moron. And having the ability to kill whoever you want is indeed a freedom, so I don't wanna hear that crap that its not a freedom, its just a freedom that should be restricted.

A child does not have the maturity to handle the emotional side of a sexual relationship with another child, much less an adult. Physically speaking a child's body is not made yet to handle sexual activity with a normal sized adult. Damage DOES occur internally.

Homosexuality is between two consenting adults. If it is between a young child and an adult of the same sex it is pediphilia.

I do not see homosexuality as a mental illness. If any type of condition or label can be put on it to explain the difference, I would say it is perhaps a genetic code or chromosome issue of some sort.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

A child does not have the maturity to handle the emotional side of a sexual relationship with another child, much less an adult. Physically speaking a child's body is not made yet to handle sexual activity with a normal sized adult. Damage DOES occur internally.

Homosexuality is between two consenting adults. If it is between a young child and an adult of the same sex it is pediphilia.

I do not see homosexuality as a mental illness. If any type of condition or label can be put on it to explain the difference, I would say it is perhaps a genetic code or chromosome issue of some sort.

So what age does the child then become ready to engage in sexual activity with an adult?

And how would you retort someone that argued that a certain child (who was one year below whatever age your answer to the above is) was advanced for their age (both mentally and physically) and should therefore be allowed to engage in sex with an adult?

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

So what age does the child then become ready to engage in sexual activity with an adult?

And how would you retort someone that argued that a certain child (who was one year below whatever age your answer to the above is) was advanced for their age (both mentally and physically) and should therefore be allowed to engage in sex with an adult?

My personal thought is that a man or woman is probably NOT mentally ready, emotionally ready or mature enough for a sexual relationship until age 25 but since that won't be happening, I guess it depends on the person.

I know how women tend to think and how emotionally we get attached to a guy when we are young and I would hope people would wait until they feel genuine love for another and truly KNOWING the person before doing that, but that is not realistic.

Since kids are suppose to be under the care of adults until 18, I would say anything before 18 will depend on the situation with the parenting. My children didn't do anything before 18 because I explained that I regretted losing my virginity at age 18 to someone I "thought" I was in love with when I had no dang clue. I guess I can honestly say I did not know what really loving a man was until my 40s anyway so I am not one that can give advice on this topic as it is.

 

[tarheel0910]

A child does not have the maturity to handle the emotional side of a sexual relationship with another child, much less an adult.

You could also say a lot of adults don't have the maturity either.

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

You could also say a lot of adults don't have the maturity either.

You're absolutely correct on that one, dear!

 

[strummingram]

As I've stated countless times on here to you - just because you treat people the way you want to be treated doesn't mean that everyone else will.

I'm not worried about everyone else. I'm not responsible for everyone else, in a direct sense. If I treat people the way I wish to be treated, then that is exactly what comes back to me. I get what I give and I give what I get. And, "just because I do that", that is exactly what I experience. What everyone else does is on them, not me. Everyone else is getting exactly what they give as well.

There are times when killing someone is justified. Killing someone isn't necessarily murder. I think there should be laws in place to prevent murder, but killing someone when justified is acceptable. And I think you're off base if you think that someone literally thinks "Well gee, the State kills people, so I should be able to shoot this guy" right before they murder someone.

Justified killing? I'll need clarification. Killing someone is not always murder... I agree.

And, I'm not implying that people say to themselves "Well, they execute people in prison, so I can murder." But, that would not be out of the realm of possibility when someone is justifying their decision to murder. As I have said, no one does anything "wrong" based on their model of the world, or their world view. That includes murdering people! They might experience regret... LATER ON. But, when they do it, they have justified it. In fact, they're doing what you did above and decided it was a justified "killing", only you call what they did murder.

ETA:

I'm not saying you shouldn't justify killing, by the way. Just don't be surprised when "everyone else" justifies it and it affects you negatively!

 

[strummingram]

Here...

Zach is brazenly carving-up Hillary:

 

[tarheel0910]

Here...

Zach is brazenly carving-up Hillary:

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Their first white president. Hilarious.

 

[strummingram]

Their first white president. Hilarious.

That was brutal. Zach has some serious balls to say some of that stuff. I'm surprised she sat through it. And, the Secret Service guys took him to the ground, too! It reminds me of when Sascha Cohen does his interviews in character, but the subject doesn't know the joke. Here, they KNOW it's a joke, but they get roasted anyway. And, Zach drops anvils on them!

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

That was brutal. Zach has some serious balls to say some of that stuff. I'm surprised she sat through it. And, the Secret Service guys took him to the ground, too! It reminds me of when Sascha Cohen does his interviews in character, but the subject doesn't know the joke. Here, they KNOW it's a joke, but they get roasted anyway. And, Zach drops anvils on them!

Here's a real winner! So I think Zach's attempt to have a brutal comedy routine with the Hills there is nothing compared to this woman's REAL beliefs and she was stupid enough to say them out loud! THIS is why people think not only Trump is a complete racist idiot but his supporters are as well. Anyone who blames Obama for stuff he could not possibly have any control over is just too stupid to vote, IMO. I don't care that much for Obama either but he is by far NOT the worst we have ever had in office. That honor goes to Bush and it has actually been proven!

 

[tarheel0910]

Anyone who blames Obama for stuff he could not possibly have any control over is just too stupid to vote, IMO.

Agreed. Same goes for the people who did blame and continue to blame Bush for things out of his control.

I don't care that much for Obama either but he is by far NOT the worst we have ever had in office.

Agree again.

That honor goes to Bush and it has actually been proven!

Two things. First, please let me know how it has been proven other than your opinion. Second, you should study up on your history because the worst president ever was FDR. Of course I can't prove that either, but it’s hard to make a case that he was a good president in my opinion.

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

Agreed. Same goes for the people who did blame and continue to blame Bush for things out of his control.


Agree again.


Two things. First, please let me know how it has been proven other than your opinion. Second, you should study up on your history because the worst president ever was FDR. Of course I can't prove that either, but it’s hard to make a case that he was a good president in my opinion.

I admit I did not do my own research because frankly they all suck in some way in my opinion and I really don't care anymore but I read this about Bush on several websites. How true they are???? I have no idea. As for my personal experience, I had a much, much more difficult time when Bush came in to office and once Obama got in things got much, much better for me financially.

http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/politi...be-worst-president-and-heres-why-infographic/

 

[heelmanwilm]

Its amazing how ignorant/uneducated the gen pop is regardless of politics. Jay leno used to go on the streets asking the most mundane (to me) questions about geography and politics and get the most unbelievably stupid responses from otherwise normal intelligent looking people. My wife who i love and cherish is totally ignorant about such things. She didnt know where canada was when i met her. She thought it was a state. When bush won the repub primary She was happy he was gonna be the president of north carolina. Meanwhile she has formed and successfully runs a non profit organization and has her own personal fitness business thats very profitable. Shes intelligent, but not educated.

 

[strummingram]

 

[strummingram]

Another reason I think Hillary paid this man to run!

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I missed this during the melee' yesterday.

Trump shows how he'd make a great politician (and has). He's a bullshit artist that says one thing and does something else... a perfect politician. I've always thought that government would be awesome if it weren't run by politicians. Professional liars running the show sounds foolproof!

 

[tarheel0910]

I admit I did not do my own research because frankly they all suck in some way in my opinion and I really don't care anymore but I read this about Bush on several websites. How true they are???? I have no idea. As for my personal experience, I had a much, much more difficult time when Bush came in to office and once Obama got in things got much, much better for me financially.

http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/politi...be-worst-president-and-heres-why-infographic/

It appears that most of that is extremely subjective, so that's probably not the best source. As far as you being better off financially, you would be the exception, not the rule. Here's the dirty little secret that no one wants to admit though. There isn't much a president can do to single handily help or hurt the economy. The power of a president is greatly exaggerated.

 

[strummingram]

There isn't much a president can do to single handily help or hurt the economy. The power of a president is greatly exaggerated.

+1

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

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I posted that to you in the comment above, silly LOL but can you believe the crap she said??????? I just am amazed that she is as old as she is and thinks racism did not exist in the 50s and 60s but did once we had a black (mixed) president! She is some kind of special, I tell ya!

 

[heelbent]

can you believe the crap she said??? She is some kind of special, I tell ya!

Well...she is a woman.

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

Well...she is a woman.

Yep, I see plenty of stupid women these days, trust me! Watch a couple of those videos posted again! LOL

 

[heelbent]

Yep, I see plenty of stupid women these days, trust me! Watch a couple of those videos posted again! LOL

Don't forget...they are women, too.

I'm just messing with you, Chic.

And don't worry...that bike ain't going to waste, lol.

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

Don't forget...they are women, too.

I'm just messing with you, Chic.

And don't worry...that bike ain't going to waste, lol.

I am so relieved to hear that, dearest..... It would sure be a shame! haha

 

[chick_bleeds_carolina_blue]

This seems appropriate here lol

 

[strummingram]

Hey! Hillary's supporters are really deep-thinkers, too!



These are ALL Donald Trump quotes they are agreeing with.

 

[KramerDishDawg84]

Hey! Hillary's supporters are really deep-thinkers, too!

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These are ALL Donald Trump quotes they are agreeing with.

I'm stealing this. Good stuff. I think supporters on both sides are not all there.