Please define "that demographic" and explain how said demographic somehow doesn't include you (or me or most of the poasters on this board since we're WASP from the South).
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I'm not a WASP from the South.
I did define that demographic. It wasn't long ago that old men (white men, or WASP's if you want them to be), were marrying young girls all the time. Sometimes they were even their own cousins. So, the women are aware of that not-so-distant culture just like the men are. The idea of homosexuals, transgender, and anything that appears to enable those things are scaring the bejeezus out of those people. Southerners, especially rural southerners, are always going to be behind the rest of the country, socially.
And you don't think she was trying to scare her peeps? You are on some serious meds Bill if you don't think she wasn't using rhetoric in much the same way. It was not a "but look what they did" it was another example as to how politicians from both sides try to get their bases fired up.
Nothing. Politicians pander and lie.
I was ORIGINALLY talking about the PEOPLE'S inability to think for themselves. The constituents are plugged-in to whatever media source reinforces their bias. Their media, their church, their own home-grown prejudices that remain intact because they are afraid of anything that is different from what they're used to. The politicians are products of the same environment and they know their meal ticket is to perpetuate, and exaggerate, the perceived conditions. But, I was talking about the PEOPLE'S refusal to see how they're being lead down a path. Granted, they are helping to perpetuate it as well.
That's not what you said. You move the goal posts constantly. You tried to classify Alabama (or Southern) men who used to marry young girls and/or their cousins as a demographic.
Well, they ARE those same people. Their descendants, of course. The dead people who actually did it are not casting votes... although, they may as well be.
I'm referring to the lingering ideology. The motivation behind their voting preferences, rather. They've been conditioned to vote for anything... ANYTHING, before "a Democrat." It's so dumbed-down and basically a fear response. They see it as a self-preservation instinct. It's like pulling their hand from a hot stove.
All gender-neutral. And, there are people that are responsible for specific actions. If I describe them and their actions, I'm not always denigrating them. If I see it as less-than-helpful to advancing the species... well, I'm not likely to praise the behavior. If it takes denigrating to move it forward... well, so be it. You're stuck for life anyway. <---(Now, that was denigrating)
Just to be clear, when you say them are you talking about one person or a group of people?
I’m sure there are old white peop
yes, but old white people that married very young girls happened everywhere a few years ago, not just in Alabama.
And, I have stated that Moore is not a pedophile. Pedophilia is a preference for prepubescent children.
The reverse is true as well though, there are countless people where I'm from that wouldn't vote for someone with an R in front of their name for anything.
So people who disagree with whatever the hot topic of the day, or who disagree with social evolution as you see is are unable to think for themselves. That is a high and mighty attitude of one who looks down on others. You always do your best to prejudice people's opinions when it doesn't agree with whatever media you gleen your insight from. You've come to the rescue of every social hot topic of the day. I'm not sure you help the healing this country needs. No one ever agrees with each other. But you flame a passive aggressive stance almost daily on this board. For the years I have read this board, I have witnessed tons of topics which went against the grain of my core beliefs. I have examined those beliefs against some of these issues.
I guess it is offensive that someone like you seems to take pride in being contrary to someone's doctrine all the while spouting your own. I am not so dogmatic that I can't tolerate other people's opinion. But I feel the same should be given on the other sides part as well
I tolerate opinions, attitudes, and actions that differ from mine every day of my life.
When I am offering my personal perspective, then I have no doubt it will sound biased, prejudiced, even superior to those who disagree witj my stance. I'm not insisting anyone conform to my way of thinking. When I see an ideology resisting the inevitable path, then I have no problem stating that condition. If you don't like my "passive aggressive" style, I'm sorry. I try to be direct without being overtly insulting.
As for coming to the rescue of social hot topics on this board... so what? This board leans heavily conservative, and always will. Be glad there's some polarity at all.
It's not meant to hate on him. It's just stating a fact that I observe. Honestly, both sides of any issue should be able to rationally discuss something without throwing out aggressive or passive aggressive remarks. It's part of what is already wrong with this country
But calling people unlearned is a bit much. There are very educated people on both sides of issues that differ in opinion. We are suppose to live in a free country that allows that. No I do not agree with any form of homosexuality. I teach my kids this same principle. My church teaches it as well. But in stating this in a public forum, it allows others like you to down me, say I am unlearned, or that I am a product of an archaic belief, or a plethora of other comments. But if someone chooses that lifestyle, that is their choice. I have no issues with what they choose as long as it stays within the context of our laws. But we are also looked down by people with elitist attitudes that differ with our view. Honestly, some of the debates on this board are ridiculous
"Unlearned" is not what I would call it at all. You're definitely "learned." You are obviously learned. You state as much.
And, "not agreeing" with homosexuality is your choice, and your prerogative. But, you were taught that prejudice. You were taught that it was "wrong" based on your religion. Taught, learned, whatever you wanna call it. I believe that what you learned is antithetical to natural biology. And, yes, continuing to cling to that belief that some sort of male parental figure in the sky is going to punish you after your body stops working by sending you to an eternal fire pit is archaic and holding-back the species, as a whole. But, by all means, keep clinging to it, if that's what you want to do. I'll keep tolerating it and tossing-in a few "passive-aggressive" comments along the way.
If you want to debate homosexuality, I'll gladly do that. Your fear of it (or "not agreeing with it") is rooted entirely in your church/religious beliefs. Am I right?
My belief is primarily based on it looking unnatural. Secondly, my Christian beliefs. Honestly, it never came up in my youth. I remember people who had homo tendencies as a kid. They never had any peace it seemed until they were older. I never heard it pounded from the pulpit until my adulthood. As a kid, we would crack homo jokes at one another . I have had one experience where a homosexual tried to molest me when I was 17. But I have never hated them for what they choose. As a matter of fact, when I was in the florida rave scene in the mid to late 90s, I partied with hundreds of homos. All the while, I never condoned their lifestyle, I viewed it as their choice. But the past few years have been hard for that view. It's mainly due to people like you who look down on someone who doesn't agree with an all inclusive lifestyle. It's not that I fear the homo, it's that I fear my choice to not agree with their lifestyle. I dislike agenda based movements that disrupt my freedom. You seem willing to give up some of your freedoms for social progression. I don't.
So no, I don't fear the homo
You see me as "looking down" on you? I'M NOT! You "partied with hundreds of homos" and, never condoned their "lifestyle." And, then, you also said it "looks unnatural." All of those are indications of "looking down" on them. Cracking homo jokes is another example of that. Whenever you engage in any of that, you're reinforcing whatever it is that you "disagree with." Just like I do.
And, your religion is teaching a hatred, at its core. It's teaching people to fear the behavior. It teaches them that if you engage in it, you will burn for eternity in some cavernous lake of fire. That is, to me, a fairy tale that is egregious and detrimental to the culture, society, and species.
I'm glad you could party with homos. Try realizing that having sexual and feelings of affection and love for people with the same genitalia is just as natural, and should be celebrated, as if you have almost-the-same body parts (as with males and females).
I'm not giving up freedoms. I'm accepting natural inclinations of the progress and evolution of the universe as a whole.
And, you DO "fear the homo." You admitted to it several times. Denial isn't helping you either.
Probably a better way of saying it is that "Southerners are people of conviction and are more loyal to their beliefs". The way you said it - "behind socially - insinuates that Southerners are on the wrong side. That's subjective.
You're the one that said it was, damn. I just ask you to explain how it is. I even highlighted it in your post for you.
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