So, who's going to follow the election results tonight?

[uncboy10]

If people voted by issue, it would look extremely different. Third party candidates would make up a good percentage of politicians. Most people fall in the middle. Conservative and liberal power would be diminished. @heelmanwilm would be your representative, not Bernie Sanders.

Quite a lot of polling data showed that a huge percentage of Americans supported Bernie's platform. If people voted on issues instead of partisan bias, he would be even more popular. The truth is that Bernie's platform is actually fairly moderate in the grand scheme of world politics. Single payer healthcare and tuition free public universities are not radical left wing policies.

 

[prlyles]

Indeed they did. You seem to be missing a few women in the picture though. For instance, where's Jennifer Wexton who won in VA?

Oh, I get it. It must just be minority women that you're touting here. Well, in that case, where's Elizabeth Warren?

I think it's a good mix.

 

[nctransplant]

Quite a lot of polling data showed that a huge percentage of Americans supported Bernie's platform. If people voted on issues instead of partisan bias, he would be even more popular. The truth is that Bernie's platform is actually fairly moderate in the grand scheme of world politics. Single payer healthcare and tuition free public universities are not radical left wing policies.

Big key in what you say here, "World Politics". This is 'MERICA, damnit!

 

[nctransplant]

Indeed they did. You seem to be missing a few women in the picture though. For instance, where's Jennifer Wexton who won in VA?

Oh, I get it. It must just be minority women that you're touting here. Well, in that case, where's Elizabeth Warren?

The Cortez chick has no clue whatsoever. She was asked by Jorge Ramos how we would pay for her healthcare plan, she said "we just pay for it".

 

[tarheel0910]

Had to post this just because of the mug shot.

https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/...-to-shoot-polling-place-workers-officials-say

 

[nctransplant]

Had to post this just because of the mug shot.

https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/...-to-shoot-polling-place-workers-officials-say

Trump put him up to it.

 

[tarheel0910]

she said "we just pay for it".

 

[uncboy10]

Big key in what you say here, "World Politics". This is 'MERICA, damnit!

Keeping up with the rest of the world is generally a good idea

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Just because there has been a shift leftward in other parts of the world doesn't mean that it would be the best for the US to follow suit.

 

[uncboy10]

Just because there has been a shift leftward in other parts of the world doesn't mean that it would be the best for the US to follow suit.

The evidence points to better outcomes for those countries when they adopt these policies. The US has fallen behind in healthcare and education as other countries have adopted national healthcare systems and tuition free public universities. “Free” market fetishism in the US is a big part of the problem. Markets are not the best solution to every problem.

 

[nctransplant]

The evidence points to better outcomes for those countries when they adopt these policies. The US has fallen behind in healthcare and education as other countries have adopted national healthcare systems and tuition free public universities. “Free” market fetishism in the US is a big part of the problem. Markets are not the best solution to every problem.

Which countries would you like to go to if you become ill and need immediate treatment?

 

[Terror Beard]

Markets are not the best solution to every problem.

Govt is never the best solution to any problem.

 

[tarheel0910]

The US has fallen behind in healthcare and education

Not higher education. The US is still ranked as one of the best places to go to college.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/education-full-list

http://www.qs.com/the-strongest-higher-education-systems-by-country-overview/

 

[uncboy10]

Which countries would you like to go to if you become ill and need immediate treatment?

I can think of a long list of countries that would provide care that is right on par with what I’d get here and wouldn’t bankrupt me.

 

[uncboy10]

Not higher education. The US is still ranked as one of the best places to go to college.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/education-full-list

http://www.qs.com/the-strongest-higher-education-systems-by-country-overview/

I don’t think anyone would deny we have many of the best universities. I’m just arguing that any qualified student should be able to attend them regardless of their economic background. And that’s not even close to the situation we are currently in. We may have some of the best universities but we also have the worst student debt problem of any country on earth.

 

[strummingram]

I was impressed that Nevada voters elected the dead bunny ranch pimp, Dennis Hof.

 

[nctransplant]

I can think of a long list of countries that would provide care that is right on par with what I’d get here and wouldn’t bankrupt me.

You might make a good politician because you didn't answer the question.

 

[nctransplant]

I was impressed that Nevada voters elected the dead bunny ranch pimp, Dennis Hof.

Those are the informed voters @tarheel0910 speaks of.

 

[tarheel0910]

I don’t think anyone would deny we have many of the best universities. I’m just arguing that any qualified student should be able to attend them regardless of their economic background. And that’s not even close to the situation we are currently in. We may have some of the best universities but we also have the worst student debt problem of any country on earth.

The country would be better off if more people skipped college and got a technical or associate degree. Too many people go to college now.

 

[gteeitup]

lol, is anyone watching or listening to the president right now?

holy moly

 

[uncboy10]

You might make a good politician because you didn't answer the question.

Canada, any country in Britain, Germany, or France.

 

[uncboy10]

The country would be better off if more people skipped college and got a technical or associate degree. Too many people go to college now.

Subsidizing those tech and associates degrees would be a great way to incentivize that. And would cut down on the student debt problem for people who are smart enough to do their first two years at a tech school. That’s what I did. Seems like that could be a pretty solid compromise to me

 

[tarheel0910]

lol, is anyone watching or listening to the president right now?

holy moly

Is there a good reason we should? From what I've heard, it's best to avoid his speeches. Saves me money on Advil.

 

[strummingram]

lol, is anyone watching or listening to the president right now?

holy moly

Me, Me, My, My, I, I

 

[strummingram]

He has the highest poll numbers with the African Americans

 

[tarheel0910]

Subsidizing those tech and associates degrees would be a great way to incentivize that. And would cut down on the student debt problem for people who are smart enough to do their first two years at a tech school. That’s what I did. Seems like that could be a pretty solid compromise to me

Those degrees really aren't that expensive, so I'm not sure that would have much of an impact on the overall student debt problem. I might be willing to entertain the thought of that though since it could steer people away from college. The issue with that is a societal one though. High schools try to force college down your throat and make you think it's necessary. Technical and associate degrees should receive equal treatment by high schools.

 

[tarheel0910]

Me, Me, My, My, I, I

Would you prefer him to say me and strum?

 

[strummingram]

I will say, in his defense, if he says he's a "Nationalist", that does NOT mean WHITE nationalist. He'll say whatever he thinks will get him attention and support... like every other politician.

 

[strummingram]

Would you prefer him to say me and strum?

It just reveals his perspective.

 

[uncboy10]

Those degrees really aren't that expensive, so I'm not sure that would have much of an impact on the overall student debt problem. I might be willing to entertain the thought of that though since it could steer people away from college. The issue with that is a societal one though. High schools try to force college down your throat and make you think it's necessary. Technical and associate degrees should receive equal treatment by high schools.

They would cut down on the student debt problem by cutting the cost of a four year degree. My degree was almost 30 thousand dollars cheaper as a result of doing my first two years at a tech school. Not that it will prevent UNC from raping me in exchange for a PhD...

 

[tarheel0910]

So how soon will Trump fire Sessions and how many other people will he replace? I give Sessions about 2-3 weeks. I'm guessing Zinke and Mattis are gone as well.

 

[strummingram]

So how soon will Trump fire Sessions and how many other people will he replace? I give Sessions about 2-3 weeks. I'm guessing Zinke and Mattis are gone as well.

Why???

What's wrong with Mattis?

 

[tarheel0910]

Why???

What's wrong with Mattis?

Apparently he's sort of a democrat.

 

[UNC71-00]

If anyone cares about cutting down on student loan problem, first step is to end federal guarantees for student loans

 

[nctransplant]

Canada, any country in Britain, Germany, or France.

Enjoy your wait to be seen, hope you don't die while waiting in line.

 

[uncboy10]

Enjoy your wait to be seen, hope you don't die while waiting in line.

That’s a myth. People get access to urgent healthcare just fine in those countries. The wait times are never for urgent care.

 

[tazki]

Canada, any country in Britain, Germany, or France.

@uncboy10 . Honest question, if that's truly how you believe then why don't you move there? You wouldn't have anyone to pretend you know all the answers to.

 

[nctransplant]

Those degrees really aren't that expensive, so I'm not sure that would have much of an impact on the overall student debt problem. I might be willing to entertain the thought of that though since it could steer people away from college. The issue with that is a societal one though. High schools try to force college down your throat and make you think it's necessary. Technical and associate degrees should receive equal treatment by high schools.

Many companies will pay for a two year degree while you work for them. I know of several electrical companies that pay for education as long as the student works for them.

 

[nctransplant]

That’s a myth. People get access to urgent healthcare just fine in those countries. The wait times are never for urgent care.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/11/03/canada-doctor-patient-wait-times_a_23266026/
From the Huff Post, not exactly a right leaning rag, but ok.
And I can give you many more articles related to heart and cancer wait times.

 

[tarheel0910]

That’s a myth. People get access to urgent healthcare just fine in those countries. The wait times are never for urgent care.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/waiting-your-turn-wait-times-for-health-care-in-canada-2017