Hell i'd chip in to pay him for his time on here so long as he manning the wall against these bozos
Oh i get your drift. Thats why everyone at work is wondering why i'm laughing hysterically
Stats and stuff (NCAA Final)...
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Hell i'd chip in to pay him for his time on here so long as he manning the wall against these bozos
Oh i get your drift. Thats why everyone at work is wondering why i'm laughing hysterically
So lets see, i'm a ref that wants to throw the game hmmmmm whats a good start....hmmmm....OH I KNOW I'LL CALL TWO QUICK ONES ON NOVA'S BEST PLAYER AND PUT HIM ON THE BENCH FOR HALF THE GAME! YEA YEA THATS THE TICKET!!
Whereas i tape two quarters to yours and it's worth.....fifty cents
Sorry mike. Couldn't find any pics of wolpfackers with the superior Down East Striper.
I do not have a UNC degree, gonna belittle me for it? Very long story as to why not, was my intentions to but chose 1st to serve my country for 4 years 1967-1971while many ran. But if it makes you feel more like a fan because you did so be it. Fan here since 56.
LOT of non UNC folk saw the same thing, they all wrong too? Why be a jerk to other UNC fans?
That was directed at the petition signers mike. i would never EVER Belittle u or your opinion. Too much respect here.
And thank you for your service.
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People are being jerks on both sides. We all watched the same game and saw the same calls. The question is whether we want to harp on it like wuffies or handle it with class and move on.
Look at it from the other side. If you had a friend who was a duke fan (hard to imagine, I know) and they had lost a game the same way, would you respect them more for giving credit to the winning team and acknowledging a hard-fought game, or for blaming it on the rayuffs? For me there's nothing worse than the latter, so as much as I was screaming about the calls during the game, I can't go there after the final whistle. It's hypocritical to deride other fanbases for it and then turn around and do the exact same thing.
Look at it from the other side. If you had a friend who was a duke fan (hard to imagine, I know) and they had lost a game the same way, would you respect them more for giving credit to the winning team and acknowledging a hard-fought game, or for blaming it on the rayuffs? For me there's nothing worse than the latter, so as much as I was screaming about the calls during the game, I can't go there after the final whistle. It's hypocritical to deride other fanbases for it and then turn around and do the exact same thing.
All for venting and moving on, I'm ready for next season.
JuleZ, I have a very close Duke friend who I discuss their losses and ours with. We both call it like we see it. He knows we got screwed. But we will be back!
JuleZ, I have a very close Duke friend who I discuss their losses and ours with. We both call it like we see it. He knows we got screwed. But we will be back!
Some of y'all harp on Roy for WEEKS and yet won't let folk harp for a couple days on the worse called game I've seen since 56.
"Smfh"
"LOT of non UNC folk saw the same thing, they all wrong too? Why be a jerk to other UNC fans?"
One has only to scan the OOTB basketball discussion thread to see that he's one of a half dozen guys who delight in trashing other fans. They get off on it. They seem to feel they're the only ones smart and honest enough to tell it like it really is. When one of them posts here, the others immediately "like" his post, it's pretty easy to figure out who's in the "cool clique".
"LOT of non UNC folk saw the same thing, they all wrong too? Why be a jerk to other UNC fans?"
One has only to scan the OOTB basketball discussion thread to see that he's one of a half dozen guys who delight in trashing other fans. They get off on it. They seem to feel they're the only ones smart and honest enough to tell it like it really is. When one of them posts here, the others immediately "like" his post, it's pretty easy to figure out who's in the "cool clique".
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Check out Adam Schein's "A time to Schein" comments on the officiating. Thanks for not calling it a conspiracy because a certain trio of douche bags on this board will have a melt down....note: These posts are for those who appreciate them. For those who don't like some of it or want to be passive-aggressive, hey, just go ahead and hit the "back" button right now and everything will be fine. The box scores are readily available...
I'm not gonna spend too much number space on the last game --- just a few things of note --- because unfortunately this one was not as much about numbers as... other stuff. Next I'll post some things on the season and the future.
Anyway... Finals stuff:
- Nova shot exactly 58.3% in both halves --- y'all watched it, they made a few open shots, several well-defended contested shots and honestly, some shots that were desperation heaves. Credit where it's due. It's one of he two things that kept them in the game --- or should I say the one factor that allowed the second factor to have the effect it did. Speaking of making tough shots, Nova only had 6 team Assists for the game! By comparison we had 16.
- We out-rebounded them 36-23, and 16-2 on the offensive glass --- 11-2 on Second Chance pts.
- Carolina as you may have heard set a NCAA Finals record (go figure) of 64.7% from 3 (11/17), and yeah, we were 7/9 in the first half, but even in the second half we were 50% (4/8).
- I would've liked to seen us scramble more. Bullies don't like to be bullied, and they didn't react confidently when we did trap.
- The talking heads made much of us supposedly having 0 Fast Break pts. That is very misleading. We scored 31 off the Secondary Break (including 5 of our 3s) --- Nova got back well but the transition game was still working.
- So the issue was inside the arc. Amazingly we were outscored 26-32 in the Paint... Huh?... and it's not like we weren't getting the ball in the Paint --- especially in the second half, when our FG% actually dropped off! We shot 34.3 % in the second half despite still shooting 50% from 3... That's 29.6% on 2-pt FGs... THIS team??? AYFKM? OK, a few shots we just missed, but especially in the Paint we were getting fouled, and fouled hard --- over and over again --- and precious few were called.
- which brings me to this:
I knew going in that Nova was playing as well as they can play... and I expected them to play well against us, although we would defend them better than previous opponents (we did). But I also knew that even being on their game, as long as we A) played/shot well enough to just not lay an egg, and B) got just a reasonably fair officiating job, that there was was NO way this Nova team could beat this Carolina team. We got A) --- we sure as hell did not get B). Here's the reality: Nova is not just a "physical" team, they are a (dookishly) dirty team. That was exemplified a few minutes into the game when #3 tried to pull Jackson down to the floor because Buckets had out-hustled him for rebounding position and Hart was trying to scam a foul call on our guy. My coach mafia and I agreed the zebra was right in calling the Nova players over and admonishing them, but we also agreed that should have also been called a foul right then and there, ideally a flagrant. Call one on that garbage early and you can put a damper to that nonsense.
In other words, Nova's gonna foul you. I dare say if you were able to count the welts on the arms of Kennedy, Brice and Isiah, just those would outnumber out total FT attempts. Hell, one uncalled hack on Hicks was so dadgummed loud you could hear it through the TV. At least call the damned blatant fouls (especially when you're more than willing to call touch (or invented) fouls on UNC. That is not too much to ask. Just calling the most egregious ones would have doubled our absurdly low 13 FT attempts... and don't get me started on travels. Note to refs: sliding your pivot foot is in fact a travel. And speaking of transition, the uncalled foul on Jackson's breakaway before the half (which was so bad it actually made the next days' edition of Business Insider --- I'm not making that up), perpetrated a 4-point swing which, well.....
- Anyway, here's a season stat for ya: Carolina had a grand total of 7 losses this season. Counting Monday, Michael Stephens called 3 of those games. That's 42.9%. Hell, if you include the BC game up there, where a winless team in the ACC somehow got within 3 of us (the game in which Roy got vertigo from snapping his head around at, um, Stephens) --- and since many of you considered that a de facto loss, why not?--- that would make 4 of 8 (50%). Maybe some folks hafta be hit over the head with a hammer, but when you consider the large pool of refs out there?........ Suffice it to say I had a queasy feeling going into this game for one particular reason.
Notice: I did not use the word "conspiracy". I am calling out unfair (for whatever reason) officiating that grossly affected a National Championship game... and that is inexcusable, and I stand by that.
So yeah, in conclusion: Congrats to Nova. Strong run through the tourney and played at the top of their game throughout. I don't like or agree with all their methods but they played and shot well.
But those refs? --- and who-so-ever thought they were the most qualified and/or integrous choices to call a damned NCAA Final? They can all (figuratively) "suck my balls" ($1 to Eric Cartman)...
Careful Archer, they're trolling here all the time. It's actually been nice that several of them ran and hid on OOTB but they're slowly coming back, which was inevitable.
I've been posting "here" - Radar, Blitz, and OOTB - for more than a decade. Been here longer than the management as far as I can tell.
And please, please show me ONE post, here or on OOTB, where I've "trashed" anyone. Take your time.
Edit: By management I mean Rivals. I see Mike joined up 10 days before I did.
but, do you believe the refs intentionally called a game in favor of villanova...and even more, at the direction of the ncaa?
i'll still say and believe roy is outcoached at times in games vs teams with lesser talent, but that's always been my opinion, it didn't just happen when he became the head coach at carolina...and i also think he can handle the criticisms, some folks on this board obviously cannot...and in your opinion, who has more at stake, roy williams or the people on here?
but hey, they played in the title game.
Hey Gary let me correct myself 4 douche bags....I forgot about GTitup.
News Flash: EVERY Head Coach in history has been out coached by teams with lesser talent. Your point is???
I don't remember mentioning anyone by name JuleZ. Why do you think this was addressed to you?
Because my comment was the last substantive one before you posted, and that was before you added the other quoted material at the beginning. Oh, and also because you pretty much threw everyone from the thread on OOTB under the bus.
Uhhh u said we were all the same person, a teenage girl. Thats one douchebag. Dang u struggle with numbers.
First of all, my post included objective statements of fact, nothing more. There was no need for your defensive posturing, name calling, and foul language.
Secondly, it's obvious you have no training in statistical analysis. I wasn't posting to be a contrarian. I was posting to correct your fundamentally flawed suggestion that Michael Stephens was responsible for three of UNC's losses this season. Now, if you'd like to provide additional information to support your theory I'm all ears. Otherwise, read the last sentence of my post again.
I thought I had quoted Mike's response to heelmanwilm's post, went back and quoted it.
I said a half dozen posters, there are far more than a half dozen posters on that thread. You post there enough to know who I'm referencing.
You've got to have a sense of humor about things. Most of it is said in jest, so don't take it too seriously. You're always welcome to come by and post over there too. You don't have to be part of the cool clique to post.
Helllzzzzz no i am #1. There aint no "1A".
your arrogance and "no" nothingness raises it's ugly head again. You insulted the guy and every fan of UNC who either did not attend or who didn't obtain a degree. Try owning your remarks or don't make them. You just think you are smarter than everybody else and on this , pretty sure you are in the minority.
You've got to have a sense of humor about things. Most of it is said in jest, so don't take it too seriously. You're always welcome to come by and post over there too. You don't have to be part of the cool clique to post.
Its a cult actually. With rules.
Come on in, the water's fine!You've got to have a sense of humor about things. Most of it is said in jest, so don't take it too seriously. You're always welcome to come by and post over there too. You don't have to be part of the cool clique to post.
Uhhh no i responded to the post about 500 petitioners. Thats why i said "500 reasons to be embarrassed" get it? Am i typing too fast? Sorry i'll slowwwwwwwww itttttttt dowwwwwnnnn for yaaaaaaaa iffffff youuuuuuu signnnnnnnnnedddddddd thattttttttt petitionnnnnmnn iiiiii betttttttt uuuuuu didnttttttttttt gooooooo tooooo uncccccc.
This boys about as sharp as a bowling ball. Round that is
you work...who'd a thunk it? laughing hysterically is very well a sign of other issues.
