He would have the greatest first-year impact of any player since Hansbrough! UNC would be a title contender with Blackshear and Cole Anthony!
The Grad Transfer Thread
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Our last 3 guards have been more CG. Berry and Paige listed as PG, but both were score first and never put up big assist numbers. Agree we need Cole bad at this point.
Combo guards work in our system when you have people who can score/shoot the ball on the perimeter around them. This year we had Coby who was more of a combo guard and he had Cam to support him on the wing. The challenge with a combo guard only on next year's roster lies with the lack of talent we have returning on the wing. Regardless of how good BRob is in spots, he isn't going to consistently make teams pay by collapsing on our lead guard who happens to be our best scorer. You'll also run into the challenge where we'll have a 4 and 5 who can't stretch the defense like Luke did this year. Frankly, we just have a very poor mix of talent returning. I'm super hopeful that Cole commits but I can't blame him for wanting to wait it out a bit to see who else comes on board. It certainly matters if you are the player and rightfully so.
Hope no one is holding their breath on this. It is messier to transfer within a conference - even for a grad transfer. That is why it is so infrequent. Not only does an athlete have to sit out a year, but that year is charged against your eligibility. Unless Blackshear is given a total release from VT, it simply can't happen.
And Cam Johnson's case was different because he had that second year of eligibility to fall back on even if he lost his first. That gave him leverage. Blackshear can try to fight it, but I doubt it'll get to that point.
I bet Calipari is licking his snake oil chops.
And Cam Johnson's case was different because he had that second year of eligibility to fall back on even if he lost his first. That gave him leverage. Blackshear can try to fight it, but I doubt it'll get to that point.
I bet Calipari is licking his snake oil chops.
Should he? YES
Would he? I don't know. Roy really likes Garrison. I like Garrison, but not enough to start him over Blackshear if that were to ever come into play.
Brob was 23/50 (46%). That's a decent sample size and great %. Who knows if he can maintain that, but as a SG he's got good height and would be tough to alter his shot. Will we have SF who can shoot though.
So many question marks.
Unless something has changed, that's not true for grad transfers even if it is within conference. A grad transfer can play immediately even in conference as long as the school grants his release request.
It can be messier in conference, but I bet few schools pull that garbage anymore. Pitt got hammered in the national media, and it looks bad to future recruits. Weren't there questions on whether schools even have the right to limit grad transfers under new NCAA rules? Also, the head coach just bailed.
I've said it once on this thread and I'll say it again. Tucker is a talented kid but he's also a volume shooter. Kid requires a ton of touches to get his buckets. That type of volume has allowed for good success for him personally against the lower level D1 talent he's played, but not sure it translates against high major d1 talent. It's also worth noting just how bad Little Rock was. I mean awful! I'm fully aware that kids improve from year to year, but prior to Little Rock he was at Florida Gulf Coast and only put up 6 a game, against a much better schedule. I'd take the kid because I believe he's better than any guards we have right now, but that's more a reflection of their lack of talent vs him being a world beater in ACC play. I'd take Utomi and Pierce production against a little better talent (14 ppg and 8 rpg) vs Tucker's 20 ppg against very weak D1 talent for the most part.
lot of question marks in our returners for sure. With regard to BRob, being good off the bench in spot minutes is much different than being able to produce playing starter minutes. Love BRob, but I'm not sold on him being able to play much more than 8-10 minutes a game at most and be somewhat successful for us. As good as BRob was down the stretch at times, think about the equal amount of games where he looked like a middle school player out there bumbling around throwing the ball all over the place to the other team.
I don't think we land Blackshear but would love for us to, but I think it's generally accepted and understood after the Pitt fiasco that you can't restrict a grad transfer from going anywhere, even within conference.
Not getting my hopes up on KB. Obviously it's early in the process so we have no idea if Carolina is even being considered. Would love to have him, of course. But unless I hear different this seems like a LONG shot.
Blackshear can shoot the 3, neither of the others can, I think it's a no brainer he starts. I also think there's no way he becomes a Heel but would be very happy to be wrong.
Pick one. The battle would be between Bacot and Brooks for the other big slot
Look. Being a PG has zero to do with whether you can score a lot or not, it's about the ability to be a floor-general (which precious few "combos" have). It's about the instinct and basketball IQ to run the show, whther that means getting the dime yourself or getting the rock to the guy who has a better passing angle. Assists as an individual stat (as opposed to team) is about as overblown as they come.
Hell, I've seen some recruiting "experts" list Cole as a Combo, just because he can score. On no planet is Cole Anthony a Combo, nor is Joel Berry. They are both PGs by nature, instinct and trade who can also score the rock.
agree. Brooks best asset is his ability to rebound the ball and play steady, not great defense. To put it in perspective, he averaged less rebounds this year than Cam Johnson. Not sure you can sit 15 and 8 (Blackshear) behind Brooks averaging 8 and 6.
I don't know if I could call a 40+% 3pt shooter a guy that needs to take volume shots?
Kids mature at different times so clearly when he was FGulf he had not matured his game, kid is entering the NBA draft, at very least testing the water, point being he is a pretty darn good scorer now and last I checked, we needed to replace a double ton of scoring.
Frankly, what would really help Cole Anthony out big time is a 2 guard that can score, those could be some easy assists, scoring needs to come from either the 2 or the 3. As much as I loved Kenny, he was not the big time scorer that drains away pressure, thank goodness Cam was from the 3 spot.
Garrison's ORB% was best on the team, and his TRB% was tied with Nas for second on the team. And that's competing for rebounds with Luke who was a historically good rebounder.
He also had the highest FG% of any regular rotation player.
If he gets more minutes and touches, wouldn't be surprising to see his numbers jump big time.
He got less time and way fewer touches than other starters as we were loaded offensively.
Sure. But the proof is in the pudding. This year's team has more assists per game (barely) than either of the last two years. And individual assists do count for something. Berry certainly played more like a CG to me regardless of scoring.
Players at any position can have good BBIQ. You can run a team through the post.
It is all about PT, much more than who starts the game. Fact is, the way we run, there is absolute solid PT (20+ mins) for a 3rd big man, means it is more Manley that Blackshear would battle for PT and yes, I do absolutely think Blackshear would win that one, I think he would he would be one of the best big men in the country next season and even more so within our system.
For a grad transfer, already in the portal, schools, I think, can no longer black ball other programs, as we all know with Cam, they can transfer within conference and we can do well with that, again as we saw with Cam.
I see some folks a little hesitant when it comes to grad transfers and transfers in general. Tucker for example, someone mentioned that he didn't do much when he was at Florida Gulf coast. But the thing is, a freshman has to make 2 transitions when he gets to college, the first is to the level of athleticism in college, a 18yr old going against guys that have been in a college S/C program for 3 or 3yrs, that is a totally different level from that high school kid that has no college offers. The second is the transition in to a new system and most especially the defensive focus that you must have at this level.
A transfer has already seen and to some degree gone thru the athleticism transition, themselves having been in a college S/C program for multiple years and they have already had to fit within a more structured system than they had to in high school and AAU like play.
Telling you now guys, when the 1&D goes away, the value of transfers will sky rocket!
For a grad transfer, already in the portal, schools, I think, can no longer black ball other programs, as we all know with Cam, they can transfer within conference and we can do well with that, again as we saw with Cam.
I see some folks a little hesitant when it comes to grad transfers and transfers in general. Tucker for example, someone mentioned that he didn't do much when he was at Florida Gulf coast. But the thing is, a freshman has to make 2 transitions when he gets to college, the first is to the level of athleticism in college, a 18yr old going against guys that have been in a college S/C program for 3 or 3yrs, that is a totally different level from that high school kid that has no college offers. The second is the transition in to a new system and most especially the defensive focus that you must have at this level.
A transfer has already seen and to some degree gone thru the athleticism transition, themselves having been in a college S/C program for multiple years and they have already had to fit within a more structured system than they had to in high school and AAU like play.
Telling you now guys, when the 1&D goes away, the value of transfers will sky rocket!
And I would say that scoring at PG absolutely does matter. You can be a great point guard without being a great scorer, but it's a big advantage. Coby being a knock down shooter with range opened up a lot for us, and the same goes for Berry.
Volume shooter prob wasn’t the right word, ball dominant is prob best word to describe him.
I agree, especially your last 2 sentences. UNC basketball used to be all about running things thru the post when the breaks were not there. I would LOVE to see us work more in the paint, unless it is a break op, I believe the ball should find it's way in to the paint on every possession, even if it has to kick back out to a spot up, which should happen a lot more. My opinion...
Precious and Tucker are headed to Memphis for OVs. I'm afraid that both of those ships have sailed. If Tucker was serious about UNC he would have set up and OV by now.
No, he really didn't. He was a PG whom Roy asked to score, but was above all a floor-general who spaced the floor, moved the defense, consistently made the right decisions, and thought 2 passes ahead enabling us to freelance as a default --- something we couldn't do this season.
Truth is this season's team had efficient converters so a simple 2-hand chest-pass to the guy standing next to you was more likely to result in a basket, and thus an "assist". And a large number of those came off set plays, which we ran in unprecedented abundance as compensation.
Cole Anthony (as will Francis once he's healthy) will enable us to once again run our system the way we're used to prior to this season.
Blackshear was a lot better than Brooks last year. I think Blackshear starts over him easily, he's just a lot better offensive player. Likely Bacot too but we'll have to see how he plays.
There is no rule against it actually. It seems like at this point no school would even try to prevent a full release. They'd get slammed by everybody for doing so.
Man we can't even get grad transfers from small schools....time to look at our assistant coaches and get some help for Roy on this recruiting thing....hell Roy can't do it all by himself
I would be very excited with these additions late:
Cole Anthony
Christian Keeling
Justin Pierce
Precious Achiuwa
Cole Anthony
Christian Keeling
Justin Pierce
Precious Achiuwa
This is getting comical. We lost 4 starters and have a boatload of minutes to offer and can’t land recruits that should be jumping at the opportunity.
Well... USC is one of the schools that paid recruits. No idea about this case obviously, but you don’t think a top grad transfer is worth $50-$100k to these schools? Cam was worth multiples of that to UNC. A lot of money of money is at stake in these commitments for all parties.
I don't see anyone paying for a grad transfer that most likely won't end up being a big name. I guess it's possible in today's world though.
