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The Oklahoma State offense

This could be what our offense looks like by Surratt's junior and senior year.
 
And Fedoras offense is a CUSA offense and and an absolutely worse defense. Nothing more. Why is it called a HUNH? They go to the line, and wait, and wait and wait. No wonder the o lineman cant block, they have lactic acid building up in their legs even before the damn snap.
 
only if larry visits gundy for pointers...they do it differently.

Sure, but its a similar scheme/philosophy.

If we can build a powerhouse defense to match the offense then it will take a lot of pressure off of him because we'd play so few close games. At some point he's got to find a way to correct the recurring coaching issues though.
 
It's the same offense lol.
Basically, yes.

But I would bet top dollar that Gundy would never sit - for 3 years no less - a QB who would be #2 overall in the NFL draft so he could play a between the tackles power runner with virtually no chance to ever make an NFL QB roster. Who apparently is not wanted by any CFL team. Not at QB.

Gundy looks for QBs who can spread the field by passing from sideline to sideline and deep. And that opens the running game, because the LBs and DBs must worry about being beaten by receivers, from sideline to sideline.

Noting that Fedora was OC at Ok St only makes everyone compare him to Gundy, and Fedora must look poor in that comparison. Gundy's offense is sharper and cleaner, smoother, and more consistent while also being more explosive, than Fedora's.
 
the concepts are similar, but it's not the same offense mostly because of the philosophy and mindset of the playcallers.
 
But I would bet top dollar that Gundy would never sit - for 3 years no less - a QB who would be #2 overall in the NFL draft so he could play a between the tackles power runner with virtually no chance to ever make an NFL QB roster. Who apparently is not wanted by any CFL team. Not at QB.
Man, you've got to move beyond this. It makes you look bad when you continue to bitch about it especially considering it resulted in our best season in almost two decades.
 
Man, you've got to move beyond this. It makes you look bad when you continue to bitch about it especially considering it resulted in our best season in almost two decades.
No kidding. And I couldn't care less about their relative pro success since the objective is to win games at UNC.

Gundy's offense is sharper and cleaner, smoother, and more consistent....
Are you writing ad copy now? You sound like you're trying to sell paint. This is just word salad.

...while also being more explosive, than Fedora's.
Fedora's UNC offenses have enjoyed higher S&P ratings in 3 of his 5 years, with an average ranking of 28.2 compared to OSU's 31.0.

Same is true of FEI ratings, where UNC's average ranking has been 30.2 compared to OSU's 39.4.
 
Plus, if y'all really want to bash Fedora, you should be siding against Gundy, not with him LOL.

The knock on him for the past 4+ seasons is "Pretty offense; beats the hell out of inferior opponents; can't win the big games; his team's defense struggles." So much so that T. Boone Pickens was ready to fire him last season.
 
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the concepts are similar, but it's not the same offense mostly because of the philosophy and mindset of the playcallers.

And what exactly are these differences in philosophy and mindset of the play callers? If you can provide specific examples with supporting evidence maybe people will listen.

Right now the biggest difference between the two is senior multi year starters at QB and skill positions as well as a more physical and experienced OL. Basically they have older/better players.
 
I watched some highlights of the OSU-Pitt game. Certainly helps the Cowboys' numbers that Pitt players were missing tackles left and right that turned into long TDs. Yikes. That's a Narduzzi-coached team, too, so you know he's beside himself.
 
Man, you've got to move beyond this. It makes you look bad when you continue to bitch about it especially considering it resulted in our best season in almost two decades.
'It' did not result in our best season in decades. Being healthy with a favorable schedule and solid talent resulted in our best record in decades.

Let me make that more clear. In 2015 our OL was healthy all year. Our WRs crops, perhaps the best in the ACC, was healthy all year. Hod was healthy all year and a beast (when Fedora used him).

In 2016? Our OL was banged up all season. We lost Hollins early, and he proved to be the only tall deep threat we had, which made it much easier for DBs to work to prevent other WRs getting wide open in the seams. Hood was fully healthy perhaps 3 and half games all year, which meant we had 0 RB power between the tackles.

if you flip those scenarios, the 2015 offense would have scored much less and moved the ball less, while the 2016 offense would have racked up many more yards and TDs.
 
'It' did not result in our best season in decades. Being healthy with a favorable schedule and solid talent resulted in our best record in decades.

Let me make that more clear. In 2015 our OL was healthy all year. Our WRs crops, perhaps the best in the ACC, was healthy all year. Hod was healthy all year and a beast (when Fedora used him).
The fact that you can't acknowledge that MW had a great season and was part of the solid talent makes me question your personal motivations and ability to look at the situation from a pure football perspective. You also continue to ignore the other implications (recruiting, team morale, etc.) of sitting him.

if you flip those scenarios, the 2015 offense would have scored much less and moved the ball less, while the 2016 offense would have racked up many more yards and TDs.
That is entirely your opinion and nothing more.
 
The fact that you can't acknowledge that MW had a great season and was part of the solid talent makes me question your personal motivations and ability to look at the situation from a pure football perspective. You also continue to ignore the other implications (recruiting, team morale, etc.) of sitting him.


That is entirely your opinion and nothing more.
Does a reasonable person assume that a fully healthy offense will maximize itsef while an injury plagued offense cannot?

Nothing is more of 'a football perspective' than keeping the future #2 NFL daft pick sitting for 3 years, behind a guy not even good enough to have the CFL come calling with a nice signing bonus. That sends all kinds of signals.

Perhaps you cannot see why fans of so many other programs laugh about Fedora wasting talent. Perhaps you cannot see because of your motivations.
 
Nothing is more of 'a football perspective' than keeping the future #2 NFL daft pick sitting for 3 years, behind a guy not even good enough to have the CFL come calling with a nice signing bonus. That sends all kinds of signals.
Why do you keep talking about the draft? That has absolutely nothing to do with winning COLLEGE football games. That's the only thing Fedora should care about. Sitting MW would have caused Fedora to lose the locker room and hurt recruiting relationships. MW lead us to a historical season. No matter how much BS you spew that fact won't change.

Perhaps you cannot see why fans of so many other programs laugh about Fedora wasting talent. Perhaps you cannot see because of your motivations.
Or perhaps I don't care what other programs' fans think about us. Why are you so insecure that you care what they think?
 
Plus, if y'all really want to bash Fedora, you should be siding against Gundy, not with him LOL.

The knock on him for the past 4+ seasons is "Pretty offense; beats the hell out of inferior opponents; can't win the big games; his team's defense struggles." So much so that T. Boone Pickens was ready to fire him last season.
I repeat.
 
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Why do you keep talking about the draft? That has absolutely nothing to do with winning COLLEGE football games. That's the only thing Fedora should care about. Sitting MW would have caused Fedora to lose the locker room and hurt recruiting relationships. MW lead us to a historical season. No matter how much BS you spew that fact won't change.


Or perhaps I don't care what other programs' fans think about us. Why are you so insecure that you care what they think?
So Marquise Williams had a posse that demanded he start, and Fedora folded? if so, that would explain a great deal about the continuing issues with player discontent. Give in to a demand like the one you - and many others - assume regrading Marquise Williams and his closest friends, and you can never fully shake it. Other players will try the same thing, and there always will be resentment. Program discipline will suffer. It will cosst at least as many recruits as it might help land, and those it helped land often will expect some similar type of leg up. Perhaps that explains why we have so little player development and why our teams make the same mistakes over and over.

Fedora sure better take endless delight in that 2015 season, because the odds are getting bigger every week that the fruits of that season, which began with a terrible loss that never should have been a close game and that ended with a weak fizzle, will dislodge his time in Chapel Hill sooner rather than later.
 
So Marquise Williams had a posse that demanded he start, and Fedora folded? if so, that would explain a great deal about the continuing issues with player discontent. Give in to a demand like the one you - and many others - assume regrading Marquise Williams and his closest friends, and you can never fully shake it. Other players will try the same thing, and there always will be resentment. Program discipline will suffer. It will cosst at least as many recruits as it might help land, and those it helped land often will expect some similar type of leg up. Perhaps that explains why we have so little player development and why our teams make the same mistakes over and over.

Fedora sure better take endless delight in that 2015 season, because the odds are getting bigger every week that the fruits of that season, which began with a terrible loss that never should have been a close game and that ended with a weak fizzle, will dislodge his time in Chapel Hill sooner rather than later.

Wtf are you rambling about?
 
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