THUG who killed NYPD officer.....
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I dunno... Remember, H.I. McDonough, who "Tried to stand up and fly straight. But, it wasn't easy with that sum-bitch Reagan inthe White House. I dunno. They say he's a decent man, so maybe his advisers are confused."
His advisers! Problem solved!
Yes, you and your lieutenant. You're one-in-the-same. Apparently those replying to what I "derailed it" with have no problem. So, let us talk and you can keep claiming Obama is the mastermind of all of the world's undoing.
Yes, yes, we really are.
But, listen, work with me. Don't go off-topic anymore. Dick and his understudy are just getting more and more upset. You like calling-out Obama. Stick with that here. Obama's words are influencing all the street criminals to do more harm to cops. Keep saying that over and over.
I would have responded if I could find stats breaking it out by cause of death going that far back. But just so I understand, you're sticking with your story on the theory that even though total officer deaths are down, that must mean that killings are up and accidents are way down? Makes sense.
I think the tone set is that it is stupid to incarcerate for life or ridiculous amounts of time for minor offenses. It is a burden on us financially and just doesn't seem reasonable. I get the point GSD is making though and can see why some would feel this way. I certainly feel why some police officers and judges and lawyers would feel this way. As I've said, I don't even know if I agree with what he is doing in all of those cases but in general I never got the feeling it was excusing anything but trying to stop wasting money. Of course, the numbers released probably didn't make a dent so whatever.
Well, while I admittedly don't like Obama I also don't hate him. One issue is that so many people hate him so much their opinions on him are too heavily influenced by that hate, which kind obviously robs any point they could make of objectivity and in most cases validity.
How about this - this should be all need to continue our discussion. You go find 10 police officers that were on the force when Reagan was President and still on the force today. I will do the same. We will both ask our sample size of 10 "in which era did/do you feel more threatened by the citizens you're protecting - Obama's presidency or Reagan's Presidency?"
I'll report back with my answers when I have them. You do the same.
Anyone that wants to lay some wood on what we'll find, I'm taking bets. But the odds favor my hypothesis 3:1.
Your lack of respect for a great American whose jock you couldn't carry on your best day is sickening.
Yeah... I sure missed-out on carrying Ronnie's jock around. What was it like?
ETA: There seems to be a long line of people wanting to carry his jock nowadays anyway. They reflect upon the man's administration as if it were the most joyful period in history. It may have been... for certain people... but, it had nothing to do with him. Aside from his presence at a podium reciting the speeches he memorized.
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Uh-hyuck,,, you shore got me they-er, buddy! Calling my dick little... hoo-whee... you are clever!
I wasn't intended to be funny,, just an observation.
And even at that, it displayed more lucid thought than the keyboard drool you put on here daily.
And even at that, it displayed more lucid thought than the keyboard drool you put on here daily.
Waiting on @Heels in Space to agree to a little social experiment or at least his excuse as to why it wouldn't produce valid results.
My soul tells me. Your soul tells you, too. Your mind and your religion tells you otherwise... it's okay. Jesus even said this, my friend. "YOU SHALL BE HOLY, FOR I AM HOLY." We are equal to God. We are not separate from God. God experiences itself through us.
Back to Obama and his criminal-loving society...
Speaking of a criminal administration...
I was trying to let this go because it's gone pretty far into looney-land. My initial post was that it's crazy to blame the president when a New York judge puts a hardened criminal back on the streets. And it is. It's crazy. This didn't happen because of some culture created by Obama; it happened because a New York court let a guy go who should have been in prison.
Anyway, your experiment completely misses the point I was making. I'm not saying that police feel safer or less safe now than in the 80's. I'm saying that statements by a sitting president have virtually no effect on violent crime rates nationwide. So no matter what the results of your poll were, it wouldn't say anything about Obama or Reagan. I only brought up the 80's because, under your theory, Obama's anti-authority culture should have resulted in more cop killings but it hasn't.
The tone he has set is that non violent drug offenders do not belong in prison. Which they don't
Obama has not set any kind of tone relating to cop killing. That is absurd. In fact the issue he's been most outspoken on recently has been gun control. While I don't necessarily agree with his reccomendations regarding policy, you can't pretend that isn't an effort to reduce gun violence towards police and fellow civillians alike.
He's clearly taken a stance against gun violence, which is what this is. Instead of reading between the lines to satisfy your political agenda maybe you should seek out some information that contradicts your preconceived notions of the president
Obama has not set any kind of tone relating to cop killing. That is absurd. In fact the issue he's been most outspoken on recently has been gun control. While I don't necessarily agree with his reccomendations regarding policy, you can't pretend that isn't an effort to reduce gun violence towards police and fellow civillians alike.
He's clearly taken a stance against gun violence, which is what this is. Instead of reading between the lines to satisfy your political agenda maybe you should seek out some information that contradicts your preconceived notions of the president
Did you honestly just say 'actually we are all Jesus"? Unbelievable that a man could say that. So sad.
I never suggested that gun control policy would work. You can disagree with his method of solving the problem, but pretending he isn't trying, or is setting the tone that gun violence or violence towards police is acceptable, is intellectually dishonest and obviously proves how ingrained these biases are.
Nice. Well done dodging my challenge. Because my challenge speaks directly to what I'm contending - that Obama has created a culture that makes police fear for their lives every time they walk out the door to go to work. You and the 23 year old musician/student with no real life experience can continue to deny it, but I think I'll value the opinions of police officers at a higher level than y'all's.
Gun control...yeah, that's the issue. It's certainly not the Black Lives Matter movement or any of that inane made up whiney shit that the black thug culture has created. What was I thinking? Man, if I didn't have uncboy's vast worldly knowledge to set me straight, I'd be in trouble.
He has not tried to solve one single problem while in office. All he has done is thrown gas on all of the smoldering flames that try to burn in this country. I will not even go back and forth with you on that because it is obvious. He is trying to do nothing except create a divide and he's done a damn good job of that because that's what he is.
Well if you ever want to come back to the real world I'll be happy to discuss this further.
Why don't we get together sometime and have a drink and discuss. I'm in Greenville and I believe you are in the Upstate as well.
Wait, I'm the one dodging the issue? First your position was that Obama's attitude got this NY policeman killed. Presumably realizing how insane that is, it became that Obama created a culture that's increasing violent crime. When I pointed out that neither your linked article nor the stats on police deaths support this, it became that Obama has caused police to be more afraid at work.
I'm not gonna go on a goose chase tracking down elderly cops to test your latest theory just because you dared me. Cops have a dangerous job and are always afraid for their lives. Conservative ones will probably blame Obama while rational ones will say that's ridiculous. Only in your world does everyone do everything based on something Obama did or didn't do.
Well, Jesus said it, so I figured, why not go along with Him. Stay on point. This is really a Hate Obama Thread.
Don't be ****ing retarded. I never claimed that Obama killed anyone. You know exactly what I'm contending and you're trying your best to do what liberals do - avoid the point that I'm making.
I understand the point you're making. But the fact that you bring it up in a thread about a cop getting killed means you think it was a factor in the cop's death. My point is simply that I think that's idiotic.
GSD, you have this issue dead backwards.
Ask the same question to citizens, about whether they felt more or less threatened by police and see how many would say they feel more threatened by police officers now, than under Reagan. I don't think you would like the answer.
And considering violence towards police is the basically the lowest its been in 50 years, any perceived threat felt by police officers has more to do with delusions like yours than any actual threat. I don't care what police officers FEEL. There are statistics to prove that less police officers are being killed by citizens now than under Reagan. So maybe they should just do a little research and find out they are much safer now than they were under Reagan.
There is zero accountability for police in this country. They are out of control, and its time to rein them back in. Police are supposed to protect the community, not wage wars on it to make asset seizures.
Ask the same question to citizens, about whether they felt more or less threatened by police and see how many would say they feel more threatened by police officers now, than under Reagan. I don't think you would like the answer.
And considering violence towards police is the basically the lowest its been in 50 years, any perceived threat felt by police officers has more to do with delusions like yours than any actual threat. I don't care what police officers FEEL. There are statistics to prove that less police officers are being killed by citizens now than under Reagan. So maybe they should just do a little research and find out they are much safer now than they were under Reagan.
There is zero accountability for police in this country. They are out of control, and its time to rein them back in. Police are supposed to protect the community, not wage wars on it to make asset seizures.
Obama consistently throws gasoline on smoldering embers every time he gets involved - see the so-called "Black Lives Matter" campaign. These guys are Obama's shock troops, inciting people to riot when they should be looking at their own communities to solve their own problems. Ninety percent of blacks killed in inner cities are killed by other blacks. Obama's efforts would be better spent trying to reduce black crime in black neighborhoods. "Black Lives Matter" would be more aptly re-coined "Black Crime Matters"...
Man... some of you guys are pathologically afraid of a figment of your imagination.
It kills me how you make statements like they are a fact and this one is100% incorrect. Obey the law and you will never deal with the police. They do protect the community every single day. Let them go on vacation for a month and see what happens. No wonder this country is so screwed up with people that hold your views.
