Undoubtedly, Roy was correct about this being the least talented team he has ever had. It may also be the stupidest squad he has ever had from a basketball IQ standpoint. Stupid passes, turnovers, abound. And on offense I dont think I have ever seen an offense with less movement off the ball. For the most part spacing is awful. Many times you see two guys on top of each other. Neither doing anything. You know this isnt what they are being taught. Defensively, the same old issues. A total lack of lateral quickness means anybody can drive the lane at any time. Of course, UNC collapses and leaves a white hot shooter wide open from 3. I started out thinking this seaso . Was going to be a struggle. But it's more than that. This is bearing down on a lost season.
UNC vs Pitt Game Thread
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Okay, I may have overspoken with "considerably". GT is 87 in Kenpom though, Pitt is 81. GT is 7-7 and Pitt is 11-4. Not sure why someone would be confident in this game after the last one.
you can still have an even flow of sub patterns, I mean I get it he keeps thinking the guy next to him has to be better than the crap hes watching but find 7 and let them get some type of chemistry, again just do the math the game was lost during Plateks extended minutes in the second half..
Here's our remaining games; we have to win 8 just to finish with a winning record. Anybody see 8 wins? I bolded 7 games that we might have a chance to win, but as the last two games have shown, there are no easy wins for us.
clem
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....... Cole returns (hopefully) ....
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moo
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clem
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....... Cole returns (hopefully) ....
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moo
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Just no words for how bad we are on EVERY front on both ends. We truly don’t do anything marginally well and that includes managing the game from a head coaching perspective including Bad sub patterns, no timeouts, archaic defensive system, etc.
Duke now clowning us by starting Joey Baker...can't even make fun of him not playing anymore.
All things considered? What the hell are you considering? Lou Gehrig's disease?
I can’t believe I’m actually saying this but Platek wasn’t as much the issue tonight as was Leaky Black’s extended minutes at the 1. -19 for the game with him at the 1. That’s on Roy.
at the end of the day you aint gonna win many games if you can't shoot and this team simply can't hit their shots .. add that to the low bball IQ .. piss poor spacing and injuries .. LEAVING EVERYBODY AND THEIR BROTHER OPEN FOR THREE'S .. is what it is ..
Its just common knowledge I mean even 5/6 guys on this board knew those shots were going to fall eventually (because they are wide Fng open) how does a HOF coach with a double digit lead not emphasize it?
if 8-20 can beat them, then we have to win Saturday, right? Somebody, Please tell me I'm right.
Man Up Roy you Got Cole and a Role Playing Brooks and a spotty Bacot but after that you went 0-10 on the rest..
How could it be covered up by them? It was obvious Luke, Cam, and Nas were going to be gone by the end of the 2019 season probably by mid-2017. We had all the time in the world to prep for that.
Coby may have been a bit unexpected, but if you thought there was no chance a player ranked in the mid-20s could be OAD you haven't followed college basketball (nor UNC; ahem, Tony Bradley) lately. Even if you were clueless it was pretty clear by late November, when Coby dropped 30 on Texas, that he could easily go pro.
The far more excusable loss is losing Cole. Still, we have no other good players besides Brooks. Yeah, Manley and Harris might help some but really they are depth guys at this point. We didn't get enough good players at other positions, and then IMO this team also looks poorly coached. Either that or they are just far worse at grasping our concepts, but then that also is something you could watch out for in recruiting.
It's guaranteed.if 8-20 can beat them, then we have to win Saturday, right? Somebody, Please tell me I'm right.
Huffman can't hit the floor because he can't get out on 3's? I mean with the scheme he's running not sure a track star could..
At this point, I don’t play Keeling and Pierce hardly another minute unless absolutely necessary. Keeling sucks. Pierce is marginal on his best night. Given that neither will add any value to the future of the program, I don’t waste another minute on them. Outside of that, I’d find a rotation of 6-7 that play hard regardless of position and just go with it, while never letting Dookie Black play the 1. Outside of those parameters, see how it goes.
I am basically stating the scheme is horrible but if you have major talent you can cover up the fact that collapsing down on EVVVVVVVery player from Wofford to Duke is dumb in 2020...
those 4 guys would score 70 and all was fine with what was still the dumbest ass scheme in the world..
thats total BS. There are plenty of teams that are winning games with less talent. What has Roy dont to compensate for having less talent than in normal years? He’s made zero adjustments based on his personnel
any coach can be successful when they have 6 all americans on their team. Roy is a legend because he can take stacked teams and get them to mesh together, put egos to the side and have them play as a team that puts winning above everything which not every coach can do but youre lying to yourself if you really believe he doesnt look really average as a coach when his rotation isnt 10 deep of top 50 players
agreed play 6 guys that will be here next year and take the butt whippings and build something..
i don’t disagree but you’ve got to put 5 in the court and 1 of them has a leg that has damn near fell off a few years ago, and I’m certain at least 1 more will run into foul trouble/do completely stupid ish that will make them unbearable for that particular game. LoL
I am sure if you look at GT and Pitt UNC would have the higher rated players by a mile right now.. So is he doing a bad job , I say yes too..
We do rebound well, but other than that you're right.
I disagree. We are a top five team at shooting bricks. We could build a whole town with them.
Why do so many of you care so much about that? Legitimately asking, as I've only been a fan for about 5 years. It seems like a pretty arbitrary and silly stat though: undefeated against a perennial bottom dweller if you only look at home games. Someone earlier in the thread said they were "sickened" at the thought of losing to Clemson. I don't really get it. I'd take a loss to Clemson any day if it means we can steal one of the dook games this year.
well, we do present ourselves with a LOT of missed shots, so that helps our OffReb numbers...
Yeah, but they are 0 - 59 in Chapel Hill; would be cool to keep that going. I really don't see anyway we are going to beat dook. Even a winning season seems out of reach at this point. But we can beat clemson.. I hope.
I live in the Triad and still attend soMe games of some of the better schools in the area, particularly some of the private schools who put out good players like Wesleyan and Greensboro Day. It is mind boggling to me that a team of high school kids can consistently knock down wide open looks from 3 but we literally have not 1 guy on our team who can consistently hit a wide open shot.
I truly can’t wrap my head around fielding a college team at this level without even 1 good shooter.
I truly can’t wrap my head around fielding a college team at this level without even 1 good shooter.
He's also a legend because he can land the top talent in the first place. Let's face it, a big part of college coaching success is just landing the top guys. So to the extent we don't have the talent this year because of recruiting, that's also part of coach's evaluation.
My math is different than yours, and if you feel what you post, then it's certainly your prerogative.
It's a historical streak. Seems pretty straight forward as to why it's a big deal. And I wouldn't say they are always a bottom dweller.
Yeah but our O-Reb rate is 36.2%, which is 18th in the country. So even when you control for the number of shots we are still very good.well, we do present ourselves with a LOT of missed shots, so that helps our OffReb numbers...
Is it historical? It's long, but also not particularly noteworthy IMO. Doesn't seem straightforward to me. Would you feel it historical if Florida State had a 40 year home winning streak in football over Wake Forest and lost it? Idk, I'd think it more a random but fairly useless stat.
And yeah, Clemson is an ACC bottom feeder. According to B-Ref (link: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/conferences/acc/schools.html) only Boston College has a worse SRS of all ACC teams in conference history. They're a horrible basketball school.
Leaky is terrible at the 1 and at running a team. Platek is not a good player either and basically provides nothing outside of probably doing good fundamental things in practice. I'm not sure what either of those players provide that is a positive. Leaky rebounds ok at times. And Roy played them together tonight, which is just absurd. Keeling is not a good player at all for UNC but I think Pierce could actually be serviceable. I would play him over any of those three but the problem is there has to be a PG in the game. It is just a really bad team that doesn't play well together.
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