I don't think anyone is actually debating the pedophile issue, but sorry for all the bumps. Think I'm done here.
What's all the hubbub about today with NC govt and transsexuals?
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"None perpetrated by transgenders ....."
GOOD LORD BRO .. I have said it 50 times in this thread alone. I don't care a bit about the true trannies, they are NOT THE ONES who worry folks like me. But like you, I'm done here as well ... I'm proud of our Governor and this law that will not change anytime soon.
GOOD LORD BRO .. I have said it 50 times in this thread alone. I don't care a bit about the true trannies, they are NOT THE ONES who worry folks like me. But like you, I'm done here as well ... I'm proud of our Governor and this law that will not change anytime soon.
Do people seriously still fall for the "protect the kids" crap? These politicians don't have two shits to give about your kids, period.
What if someone identifies as a dog?...would he or she be allowed to piss on fire hydrants on street corners? I'm serious. Could he or she not claim that they identify as a dog and prohibiting them from pissing on fire hydrants, trees and the like is discriminating against how they see themselves? Or would they just say, "STFU, you're a person, act like it."
I think it should be a total free-for-all. Anybody can identify with whatever race, gender, sexual orientation or species that they like. That should make for an awesome society. I say lets do it.
“Everyone is required to use the bathroom of their gender – you can’t get more equal than that,” Driggs said. “It’s not the back of the bus.”
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article61786967.html
it just doesn't make sense to me. All of the "problems " they were trying to fix weren't problems. No one was discriminating against LGBT in mass. This was just a political play.
Hey look at the bright side, if HB2 gets overturned, all the guys enjoying online kiddy porn can just 'identify' as a woman, head over to the YMCA and hop in the shower with some 12 year old girls. What can possibly go wrong??
Understood. That information was incidental. The important part, which you chose to ignore, was this:
And this:
And this:
That last one, incidentally, was the second half of the sentence you chose to truncate in your response. I really don't care about the law one way or the other. It doesn't affect me at all. I was simply pointing out that there's no historical basis for the arguments being used to prop up the law in NC and other states. That's not to say an incident won't occur, obviously, but watching our elected officials plant the seeds of fear in North Carolina citizens is kind of sickening IMO.
Apparently not.
Good luck with that. McCrory accusing the DOJ of "Washington overreach" is remarkable irony.
All just comments and not backed up by any facts or stats.It's understandable how that experience would shape your perspective. Sex trafficking is sick and disturbing. Fortunately this isn't a 3rd world country, nor does the transgender bathroom issue engender that kind of evil.
I now support the LGBT's since I found out it stands for Liquor , Guns , Beer and Titties.
Ymca of central carolinas as well as lower cape fear already has a policy of allowing people to use restrooms of their choice. can u link one single instance of a crime perpetrated by a man pretending to be a woman and committing a crime at a Y bathroom?
I think the point that bleed is making is sure, there may not be any instances on record. But allowing men into the womens lockerroom does indeed make it easier for an incident to occur. And why? Because we don't want to have to tell a person with a Y chromosome that he has to use the men's room? Because we're caving to allow people to call themselves whatever the f*ck they want? Because we're too goddamn scared of hurting someone's little feelings? F*ck that. Like I said before in my rant a couple pages back - the onus should be on the deviant to make accommodations.
I still don't understand why most everyone is talking about how dumb the state law is without mentioning how dumb the Charlotte ordnance was. It was a solution that had no problem. Trannies were not being turned away from bathrooms. No one was standing outside bathrooms checking for dicks. Had Charlotte not tried to make itself look good for political purposes then HB2 would have never existed.
I'm not around the NC scene any more so I'd like to know the answer to this too if anyone has the history.
As I've posted before, whether you agree or disagree with Charlotte's ordinance, it was what the residents wanted. The topic came up, the city council didn't pass it. So the residents voted out the council members who wouldn't pass it and voted in some who would. That's how local government works.
And once again, the state's law goes WAY, WAY beyond what Charlotte's ordinance was about. The state has basically removed any protections based on sexual or gender identity and made it illegal for any municipality to pass its own. And oh by the way, also went ahead and took away the right to set local wage ordinances. Love to know what THAT has to do with trannies in bathrooms.
And once again, the state's law goes WAY, WAY beyond what Charlotte's ordinance was about. The state has basically removed any protections based on sexual or gender identity and made it illegal for any municipality to pass its own. And oh by the way, also went ahead and took away the right to set local wage ordinances. Love to know what THAT has to do with trannies in bathrooms.
Because men who look like men outwardly and women who look like women outwardly wanted to be able to use any restroom or locker room, based on how they "identified" that day, sexually. They did not want businesses to be able to "discriminate" against them because they "went into the wrong restroom." It's seriously one of the most politically retarded things I've ever seen. If you're a dude, use the mens room ... if you're a lady, use the womens room. Why is that so hard??
And all these dumb ass companies and performers who are "bailing" on NC are too stupid to realize that with HB2 in force, the bathroom rules are EXACTLY THE SAME as when they moved their business here or booked their show here to begin with. The rule? Use the freaking restroom that corresponds with your gender ... not your emotions.
"As I've posted before, whether you agree or disagree with Charlotte's ordinance, it was what the residents wanted. The topic came up, the city council didn't pass it. So the residents voted out the council members who wouldn't pass it and voted in some who would. That's how local government works."
That's right ... and the State legislature saw this ridiculous, dangerous set of circumstances and intervened to do what they felt was right. That's how state government works.
That's right ... and the State legislature saw this ridiculous, dangerous set of circumstances and intervened to do what they felt was right. That's how state government works.
Why did the topic come up? I'm still not understanding what the issue was to begin with. Businesses didn't have penis monitors waiting at the bathrooms. How would they even know who to turn away?
And that wouldn't exist either had the ordinance not been passed. No action, no reaction.
Not going to tackle the rest of my post about how the state made it about WAY more than restrooms? That's fine, ignore what actually happened and just keep yelling BUT THE CHIL'RENS!
Why don't they make it easier on everyone, and just scrap the notion of a "Men's Room" and "Women's Room"?
Just have every bathroom be a "Bathroom" and anyone who needs to go - goes in there. That way no one can complain that they feel one way, or are being pushed another way, or anything. Essentially, the goal/rationale of the opponents of the HB2 bill would like it (in my understanding) is to make sure that no one is offended that their self-identity may be different from their biological gender. In this scenario - no one is offended because everyone uses the same bathroom anyways.
Just have every bathroom be a "Bathroom" and anyone who needs to go - goes in there. That way no one can complain that they feel one way, or are being pushed another way, or anything. Essentially, the goal/rationale of the opponents of the HB2 bill would like it (in my understanding) is to make sure that no one is offended that their self-identity may be different from their biological gender. In this scenario - no one is offended because everyone uses the same bathroom anyways.
I actually agree with you, the rest of the junk should NOT have been part of this bill - but politicians are always politicians and I'm more concerned with the safety of my kids than anything else.
Also, it does appear that the provision of not allowing folks to sue the State is going to be removed, which is good.
I agree it was a solution that had no problem which is why I don't understand
Please explain what "dangerous set of circumstances" you are referring to.
Men being allowed to shower with young girls because they "identify as a woman" today. Or be in the restroom with them .. etc etc. I realize you don't see that as "dangerous" and that is fine, I don't care .. but as the father and uncle of young girls and having been involved with sexual addiction and sex trafficking groups for many years, I see it as very dangerous - a large percentage of men are sexually SCREWED UP big time and giving them free choice to use whatever restroom/locker room they want puts the ball on a tee for many of them.
Any one who thinks this is just an equality issue is delusional. It is just another way for the dimocrat party to take the focus away from an economy going no where point 6 GDP growth last quarter after 7 years of dimocrat rule. N.C. was a robust 13% , best in the nation hmmmm.
