Why trump will win!
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Great success? Why? I'm not saying he's a complete failure, but I can't imagine that he will be looked at as anything but an also-ran.
At this point, does anyone have any faith in much any poll that doesn't agree with their viewpoint?
So let's go to the visuals- how many people are going to Trump rallies vs Hillary's? How about signs and stickers and what not?
And the sniff test- the mainstream media is in panic mode.
All signs point to Trump. But as was said by @jcolucci the fix may be in. I just don't know if they can fix it enough, but doubting the Clintons and their ability to scam is not wise.
RealClearPolitics has Hillary with a 5 point lead average in both a head to head poll vs Trump and in a 4 way race that includes Stein and Johnson.
(Head to Head) http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
(Four way)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
Me too but you know I have spoken with quite a few die-hard republicans that have said they'd rather vote for Hillary because they are disgusted by Trump. My gut feeling is strong that she will win but maybe it will be close here. Who knows????
I'm not sure rallies are a good gauge though. There would be so many more at Ron Paul rallies than any of the other candidates and we know how that turned out.
I just do NOT see SC going red for Clinton. I'm surprised it's that close. GA has a bigger divide going Red, but still in-the-balance. Maybe because we're closer to GA than some of the Democrat areas in SC. I know MB, Charleston, and Columbia are blue. But, Greenville/SPtbg. is red! Anything west of 26 is red.
Do you remember Bob Conley running for senate against Graham back in 2008? I was campaigning hard for him. He was running as a democrat, but the Democrats had nothing to do with him up here. He was a Ron Paul supporter who ran against Graham.
Yes, but in that case it was about the money! Graham had $9 million and Bob had $10K.
I'll be shocked if she wins this state but I do know that out of all the surveys out there, Survey Monkey has the most unbiased results.
Real Clear is just an aggregator, as I am sure you know, so garbage in, garbage out. It also works over time, not a snapshot. But in the end, the election is a snapshot.
Newsflash: Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan.
It's true, they are an aggregate, but you can look at the individual polls as well, and in those, Clinton only trails or is tied in two out of 23, and she's ahead by 5 or more in 14 out of the 21 polls she leads. Whether or not this holds true on election day is a different story, but historically, that has pretty much been the case.
And by the way, I'm neither endorsing nor denouncing either candidate in this thread, merely presenting the information as I see it. How it looks to me is that Clinton is ahead by a margin that is historically quite difficult to overcome at this point in the race, and the only time in modern history a margin of this size has been overcome is in a race where the candidates hadn't debated yet. You seem to see it differently, and that's fine. Neither of us will know the outcome until Nov 8/9, so I'm gonna pull out of this thread and stick to poasting memes and whatnot.
I've poasted this before, but it doesn't matter if Hillary is ahead by 4, 5, or even 20 points in a national poll. What matters is the state by state breakdown. She could get 60% of the vote and still lose the election.
U guys living together now? or do you mean because you both live in the same body? Or are you each watching at your own homes and talking on the phone while u watch and before you start the "no u hang up first" , "no u hang up first" routine.
Strum answered it. But if you don't want to watch the videos:
- Double voting
- Using dead people to vote
- Using unregistered voters
- thumb on scale when counting
- hacked voting machines
- creating votes
- not allowing eligible voters to vote
Ok, let's just take N.C. We have 100 counties, all counties have a Dem. party and a Rep. party. Each county has dozens of polling places and you're trying to tell me that the fix is in all of these? And if you saying the fix is in for just a few, which ones would you fix and how would you get both parties to go along with it? If would be an impossible task to do for just one county, in one state, in a country that has as many states as we have.
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I'm trying to understand why someone who was so sure their man will win is also claiming that the election is rigged. You can't have it both ways, do you think Trump will win or do you think the election is rigged? The only other option is that Trump has rigged the election, is that what you think?
How would anyone know if half those things listed were happening? The way the polling works - someone shows up and gives an address and votes. Without voter ID, the name attached to that address could be a dead person. The name attached to the address could be someone different than whoever is standing there. Where I vote there's one person in charge of checking off names as they come in. If that person fails (purposefully or not) to check off the name - that name/address can be used by the same person (or someone else) coming in 15 minutes later (duplicate vote).
The voting machine failure is documented as well. That could be a random problem, or it could have been purposefully put in place - you don't know. I haven't seen the behind the scenes workings of what happens between when the votes are cast and when they're tallied, but based off the quality of supervision of government in general, I don't think it's that farfetched that someone would have the opportunity to put additional votes into the box when they were in control of them.
The fact that one party is railing against requiring some sort of government issued identification to vote (which every citizen has or has access to obtain) just makes it all the more suspicious. I'm not saying any of these are definitely happening (well, except the voting machine problems which have concrete proof), but I'm saying believing that these things are impossible is incredibly naive.
How are both parties (Dem 's and Rep's) going to explain how they checked off 100 names and they had 200 people voting?
Does anyone go back through each precinct to reconcile the amount of votes cast to the amount of names checked off the registrar?
Any opinion on the other avenues?
Trump would win if the election were not rigged. He will probably still win even though the election is rigged.
He can't rig it- he would need the RNC to assist and they hate him. But then again, the DNC hasn't rigged an election since the primaries, so why anyone would think they would do it is beyond me.
Yes they do, they are checked in each polling place by both parties. The point I'm trying to make is that rigging an election will have to be done with both parties cooperation, on a massive scale. I can't see that happening but who knows....?
In normal years, it would be harder. But given that the GOP Rinos like you hate Trump and also control party apparatus, it should be easier.
What if a meteor hit all 500,000 polling places at the same time, what would we do then?
Thanks for voting. A better test would be to try to vote again and see what happens. No, I will not go on your bond.....lol
This is who you are helping to elect Lyles by not voting Trump. The Clintons are the most corrupt politicians since the pigs from Animal Farm.
It's an AP story too, so even a RINO like you should be ok with the source.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-10-27-14-52-55
It's an AP story too, so even a RINO like you should be ok with the source.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-10-27-14-52-55
Dead people are on voting rolls. Currently there is no meteor in sight.
Cognitive dissonance is a bitch, huh?
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