I'm just not sure you are comparing apples to apples. Bill Clinton was a high level politician or POTUS when he committed his acts and Hillary helped smear the women he did it to , but now proclaims any woman who has been raped/assaulted etc. should be listened to and also proclaims herself as a champion of women. Donald Trump's was nothing but HS boy locker room talk and I have done the same thing and willing to bet you have too..
I certainly wouldn't advocate you being in office either but not because of your locker room talk but because of my consternation of taking this country backwards with racial issues and you and those like you who live in constant fear of Muslims.
If you don't at least live in awareness of the problems that Muslims cause then I just don't know what to tell you. I just don't hear about these Christian , Buddhist , Jewish , Catholic , white supremacist , nudist , vegan , meat lovers or any other group bombing and decapitating people. Profiling works for a reason. Wake up before it's just too late. Really keeping Muslims out will take the country backward....LMFAO. You do know how they feel about women especially infidel women like you. Right?
These are extremists who happen to be Muslim. 95% of Muslims do not condone that just like back in the 50s and 60s Christians did not condone lynching black people even though that group of idiots known as the KKK claimed they were doing this in the name of Jesus (sadly to this day some still believe that even though they aren't killing people like they were).
I'm shocked and kind of disappointed in this. We obviously don't always agree, but one thing I can respect about you is that you have always stood by your principles and never backed down. Voting for Clinton (or Trump) goes against a lot of what you have stated you believe in.
I can't name a single world leader that's alive that I respect. They are all pretty bad. Maybe that's why he said that.
I believe you when you say you're not sure. It's imperative to try and create a difference for you. You're just another one of these right-wingers who gladly chained yourself to the dead hooker called Donald Trump. That was your choice.
Bill Clinton is not running for president. I've yet to see ANY proof that HILLARY Clinton has "helped smear the women he did it to." Maybe she had a reaction to the situation and called them names, but that is similar to what you're defending Donald Trump for doing all the time.
I'm sure you do it every day. Have I EVER done it? Yes. Until I realized it was damaging to myself and others by engaging in it. I can honestly say, that since I was maybe in high school, I have never engaged in that kind of discussion with other guys. It's degrading and demeaning to me to say that about THEM.
It has nothing to do with them being Muslim, any more than it has to do with them being HUMAN. You're grouping people based on their religion. That's inaccurate and not effective. Not to mention it mimics some other pretty unsavory figures and ideologies from the not-so-distant past. That is actually a big reason I can support Clinton. She, and others like her, are not trying to target innocent people because they happen to be of the same religion as other people who are dangerous.
I have not abandoned a single principle. I also am dealing with a variable that I never have had t deal with before. My "principles" are my basis for trying to understand EVERYTHING. I'm looking at this from a triage perspective. After witnessing this man in the last two debates, I see a very serious problem.
Maybe, but I don't believe it. You're not running for President. So, you can draw a blank and I'm okay with that. Johnson has displayed that he is either not serious about his candidacy with his responses and comments, or he lacks the knowledge when it counts. I don't like that risk.
It's definitely hypocritical do bash Trump for what he said if you engage in it yourself. If you're not offended by the kind of thinking that produces the comments, then that's your choice. I'm not offended by WHAT HE SAID, I am bothered by the kind of mind and attitude that can produce that kind of attitude on a regular basis. The context and the intent is what concerns me. And, those are pretty bad, to me. What is unfortunate is people who have chained themselves to this man are showing either their true colors and actually reflect the same attitudes, or they're too stubborn to show that he's finally gone too far. Probably a little of both.
You need a better class of friends. I've been in plenty of locker rooms and worked on plenty of job sites with all kinds of tradespeople. I don't recall a single conversation about or claim of sexual assault. And don't give me that line about being consensual...that's total bullshit. He said he just did it and he assumes...because he IS The Donald...that they want him to do it. Hope to God you don't have daughters.
Trump has no path to winning. He can't take the swing states he has to take. Period.
Just trying to make sure I covered all the bases.
Ok, it kind of sounds like it to me because...
You are saying that you are voting for Clinton because Trump is just so bad. You have been saying how crazy it is to vote for a candidate just because you don't like the other candidate. Also...
You are giving into the fear that he is spreading.
I'm not drawing a blank. I just don't think there are any that are alive today. I could name some dead ones (JFK, Regan, MLK if you consider him a world leader), but I don't think any of todays leaders are worth a damn.
Then you WERE offended. It's okay to be offended, dude. It's not okay to think you'll NEVER BE offended! Or, it's not very sane to think that.
You better check your math , because it's already been proven that a large % at least support antisemitism.
Well, this is an extreme case. You are making a good point, and I appreciate the mirror. So, I'll offer this to help explain. To go further into the realization of the debates; I have been impressed by many of Clinton's responses to questions given and was actually impressed. I definitely liked her comments to the Muslim woman on Sunday night. It was concise and direct and made me think "Hey! She DOES get it. That's my thoughts exactly." I like that she wants to concentrate on renewable energy. I do not think fossil fuels are sustainable and I believe we are damaging our planet and our ecosystem. I want someone who believes the same thing! To me, that is progress, and that is looking positive and looking forward. As I understand it, she opposes the TPP. That is my stance as well. To be frank, I'd never looked very closely into her candidacy until I was so alarmed by the lack of understanding exhibited by her opponent. So, he did some good in that sense as well.
Ok, I can respect that. The reason it really surprised me though is due to her foreign policy. It's pretty clear that she will continue bombing and sending troops over there.
it has everything to do with being Muslim. If you are trying to infer Hitler? I don't think the jews classified him as an infidel well not until he sent them to concentration camps that is.
Since he won't see this.... he's a pot calling a kettle black. He is the most miserable human being I've ever interacted with. He's so miserable that he puts people on ignore he's not strong enough to handle a different viewpoint lol. Weak!
Okay, but I just agreed with you earlier. What he SAID was not the offensive part. What he said merely revealed the actual origin of the offensive matter. The guy degrades women. If you're not offended by THAT, okay. If you acknowledge something is "wrong" then being offended is included in that conclusion. Being offended doesn't have to include a loud gasp and physical reaction of some kind.
I could support her if it weren't for her Wall Street connections but between her and Trump, we will have less trauma I suppose.
