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Hypocrisy is overwhelming

Yes, it is for him.
I'm phony in that I am not stubborn. I will concede to that. If I feel I have made an error in judgment or understanding, I will openly admit it. If I see that what I thought was 'right" is no longer serving me, and maybe it was "wrong", then I have the humility to say "You know, that was wrong of me." If that makes me phony, then I'm phony, too.

There's a difference between principled and stubborn. One of my principles is to NOT BE STUBBORN.
 
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I could support her if it weren't for her Wall Street connections but between her and Trump, we will have less trauma I suppose.
Well, she has an ally with Sanders and Warren, who are both in staunch opposition to their influence. I'm leery of that myself, but I was leery of that for every president.

What I need to focus on is getting people I prefer into lower offices and move up from the bottom, through government. THAT is what Ron Paul tried to teach me. You mentioned you were in his camp before.
 
it has everything to do with being Muslim. If you are trying to infer Hitler? I don't think the jews classified him as an infidel well not until he sent them to concentration camps that is.
No, he classified THEM as the infidels. You leave the "s" off of more words than you can ever imagine.

People like you, and Trump, would herd all Muslims into camps. You might not admit that HERE, but your comments reflect it and if it reached that point you'd be all for it. And, it wouldn't take much more to tip it in that direction.
 
Wow, your low opinion of women's intelligence and self-awareness here is alarming. Not offensive to me, but I can see how this comment can be offensive to women.

I agree with Strum. They WERE paid by Trump and furthermore if any of them cared about defending women who have been sexually assaulted or verbally assaulted, then they would have focused on that. The first thing out of each one of their mouths was "I'm here to support Mr. Trump because I want to help make America great again!" Followed by a train of praises for him as he sat in the middle of that table with his snout in the air like a king with his harem. I only believe ONE of those women have a legit claim about Clinton and the rest are just whoring themselves out to Trump. I have had an experience like they claim they had with a man once and I would NEVER out myself out there like that if this guy was running for office. There are better ways to handle that problem without going public, being paid to go public and cheerleading an idiot on!!! If those women cared and had some sense they would have NEVER sat beside a man who had just been exposed for suggesting he could do whatever he wants to a woman because of who he is!
 
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Well, she has an ally with Sanders and Warren, who are both in staunch opposition to their influence. I'm leery of that myself, but I was leery of that for every president.

What I need to focus on is getting people I prefer into lower offices and move up from the bottom, through government. THAT is what Ron Paul tried to teach me. You mentioned you were in his camp before.
Yes I did quite a bit of work for him and was fortunate enough to speak with him a few times as well as escort his family around Greenville to various events when they were in town.

You're correct, we do need to start with the lower offices because that is where it counts more anyway.

I'll probably decide on Election Day as to how I will vote. If the exit polls point toward a Trump win then I will probably vote for Hillary and go against things I believe in about wasting my vote but like you, I see that Johnson isn't cut out for this just as Trump isn't.
 
There is one thing that I am impressed by when it comes to Donald Trump. It is entirely possible that his candidacy will help create, or bring about, a MUCH-needed fracture in this party system. He's helped to show criticism and skepticism on both sides. But, just because he can help create that havoc, doesn't mean he's qualified to be president.

Everything is happening exactly as it should. I take comfort in that!
 
Yes I did quite a bit of work for him and was fortunate enough to speak with him a few times as well as escort his family around Greenville to various events when they were in town.

You're correct, we do need to start with the lower offices because that is where it counts more anyway.

I'll probably decide on Election Day as to how I will vote. If the exit polls point toward a Trump win then I will probably vote for Hillary and go against things I believe in about wasting my vote but like you, I see that Johnson isn't cut out for this just as Trump isn't.
When Johnson showed the lack of composure and knowledge, I was really let down. Jill Stein is a bit too left-wing for me. Trump isn't conservative or right-wing at all. Trump is just "let me see how much shit I can stir up."
 
Aww shucks, and knowing how much their opinion of me is so valuable to my ego, that kind of hurts.......as if! LOL
Well, their opinions are valuable. They may not be valid to you, or me, or whoever. But, they are valuable.

The one downside to me for being ignored is; I appreciate opposition to my opinions and perspectives. Without them, I stop growing and learning and being more aware. If everyone thought just like me, that would be terrible... FOR ME! Variety and variation is why I'm here! I like seeing it be more in-balance, but... I can't help when people decide they can no longer debate me.
 
And, the lengths that you'll defend the mindset that produced Trump's comments is alarming.

He got them up there to deflect from his indiscretions. Period.

I haven't defended his comments or his mindset. It was wrong of him to say it. All I said was... him saying that didn't offend me. But I can see how it offends others. Again, I'm not easily offended, so that's not saying much. Hillary letting those people die in Benghazi was wrong - but didn't offend me either.
 
There is one thing that I am impressed by when it comes to Donald Trump. It is entirely possible that his candidacy will help create, or bring about, a MUCH-needed fracture in this party system. He's helped to show criticism and skepticism on both sides. But, just because he can help create that havoc, doesn't mean he's qualified to be president.

I can agree with this. And as I've stated in other threads - while I could never bring myself to vote for Hillary, I think it very well could be best for the long term future of the country if she were to win. Either of them will monumentally botch their presidency. If that is Trump - he spooks voters from going away from the establishment in future elections. If it's Hillary - she convinces anyone left that needs convincing that the usual politicians need to go the way of the dinosaurs. Regardless of who wins... the 2020 election will be a landslide victory for the challenger over the incumbent (if that incumbent hasn't died or become incapacitated in the interim - which could easily be used as a way out to avoid a 2020 beatdown in either direction) .
 
I haven't defended his comments or his mindset. It was wrong of him to say it. All I said was... him saying that didn't offend me. But I can see how it offends others. Again, I'm not easily offended, so that's not saying much. Hillary letting those people die in Benghazi was wrong - but didn't offend me either.
Nor am I. I'm just trying to show that there is a correlation to being offended by something and by the presence of that offense, causes you to see it as "wrong." You take offense to what you consider wrong. If you didn't... why would it be wrong in the first place?

What DOES "offend" you?
 
No, he classified THEM as the infidels. You leave the "s" off of more words than you can ever imagine.

People like you, and Trump, would herd all Muslims into camps. You might not admit that HERE, but your comments reflect it and if it reached that point you'd be all for it. And, it wouldn't take much more to tip it in that direction.
dumbaaz Hitler is one person so he would be an infidel. I didn't say he classified them as infidelS although he obviously did.
 
dumbaaz Hitler is one person so he would be an infidel. I didn't say he classified them as infidelS although he obviously did.
Hitler was not alone, dude! Hitler was one of many, many millions of people who thought exactly the same. He was one of many keystones that started the avalanche. Donald Trump is not alone either. He's leading a very disturbing cause, as I see it. I don't care for his focus on prejudice, discrimination and other aspects of social culture that DO offend me!
 
Well, their opinions are valuable. They may not be valid to you, or me, or whoever. But, they are valuable.

The one downside to me for being ignored is; I appreciate opposition to my opinions and perspectives. Without them, I stop growing and learning and being more aware. If everyone thought just like me, that would be terrible... FOR ME! Variety and variation is why I'm here! I like seeing it be more in-balance, but... I can't help when people decide they can no longer debate me.

Well you're more tolerant than I. I see that as weakness or simply not willing to grow because they prefer taking the asshole route. It's funny to me. I learn enough from 58 so I'm good without Dick and 71. smh
 
Well you're more tolerant than I. I see that as weakness or simply not willing to grow because they prefer taking the asshole route. It's funny to me. I learn enough from 58 so I'm good without Dick and 71. smh
I'm glad to know you are benefiting from my plethora of knowledge. I think '92 has also helped to school you also.
 
Hitler was not alone, dude! Hitler was one of many, many millions of people who thought exactly the same. He was one of many keystones that started the avalanche. Donald Trump is not alone either. He's leading a very disturbing cause, as I see it. I don't care for his focus on prejudice, discrimination and other aspects of social culture that DO offend me!
I KNOW Hitler wasn't alone that doesn't change the fact that on that particular post I was only referring to him. You may see Trump as leading a disturbing cause and many of us see you as supporting disturbing causes.
 
I can agree with this. And as I've stated in other threads - while I could never bring myself to vote for Hillary, I think it very well could be best for the long term future of the country if she were to win. Either of them will monumentally botch their presidency. If that is Trump - he spooks voters from going away from the establishment in future elections. If it's Hillary - she convinces anyone left that needs convincing that the usual politicians need to go the way of the dinosaurs. Regardless of who wins... the 2020 election will be a landslide victory for the challenger over the incumbent (if that incumbent hasn't died or become incapacitated in the interim - which could easily be used as a way out to avoid a 2020 beatdown in either direction) .
I dunno about predictions like that, so far in the future. But, if the system is failing, then it will finally give way. I couldn't understand how Bernie supporters could get behind Clinton after the DNC. Now, I get it. But, the damage and the need for skepticism is there now. The people in the spotlight are not necessarily the ones that deserve all the credit. I'm glad that there was an opening for a Trump candidacy. I just would have preferred a candidate whose credentials were less about himself and a campaign that produced less focus on fear and prejudice.
 
I KNOW Hitler wasn't alone that doesn't change the fact that on that particular post I was only referring to him.
What? I tried reading that a few times. And... what???

I am well aware that it "doesn't change the fact" that you only referred to him. But, by only referring to him, you imply that he was doing it alone. If you want me to "KNOW" what you "KNOW" then you'll have to say what you know so I can know that! Show a little effort, man.
 
Well you're more tolerant than I. I see that as weakness or simply not willing to grow because they prefer taking the asshole route. It's funny to me. I learn enough from 58 so I'm good without Dick and 71. smh
Well, I find 71-00's contributions to be a bit more refined and show a little more capacity for broader thinking than 58. Even GSD is more on-the-ball than him. 58 offers very little challenge. But, he shows more balls by hanging in here with us. So, for that, he gets a big prop from me.
 
I'm phony in that I am not stubborn. I will concede to that. If I feel I have made an error in judgment or understanding, I will openly admit it. If I see that what I thought was 'right" is no longer serving me, and maybe it was "wrong", then I have the humility to say "You know, that was wrong of me." If that makes me phony, then I'm phony, too.

There's a difference between principled and stubborn. One of my principles is to NOT BE STUBBORN.
I wasn't trying to say you were a phony, just replying to GSD to confirm that I was talking to you. I can accept and respect the explanation that you gave earlier.
 
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Excuse me! Nobody can run this country better than me. Believe me, I know.

Welcome to the board of deplorables, DJ . . now that the shackles have been taken off of you, we sorta expected your arrival.

Did you bring Ivanka . . . and may I grab her p***y . . ?
 
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Some people out there are hurling some nasty, nasty things about what I've allegedly said. Let me clear the record - I love women. Believe me, nobody loves women the way I love women. There are many different ways that I love women, of course. And I mean that in a nice way. I love women, I do. I have the utmost respect for them. They're great. Nobody respects women more than I do, believe me.
 
Welcome to the board of deplorables, DJ . . now that the shackles have been taken off of you, we sorta expected your arrival.

Did you bring Ivanka . . . and may I grab her p***y . . ?
I wouldn't hold it against you if you tried. ;)

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This is disgraceful. If Ivanka wasn't my daughter, I'd probably be dating her. She has one of the best figures in the world. But I can't tolerate creeps like you. We demand an apology. She should not be objectified like some piece of glorified meat.
 
Some people out there are hurling some nasty, nasty things about what I've allegedly said. Let me clear the record - I love women. Believe me, nobody loves women the way I love women. There are many different ways that I love women, of course. And I mean that in a nice way. I love women, I do. I have the utmost respect for them. They're great. Nobody respects women more than I do, believe me.
Welcome to the board Don. Please follow us on our twitter account @thiootb. Thanks!
 
You need a better class of friends.

Who said they were my friends?

I've been in plenty of locker rooms and worked on plenty of job sites with all kinds of tradespeople.

I believe that as much I believe that crapola Ignored member has been poasting here for years.

I don't recall a single conversation about or claim of sexual assault.

Way to pigeon hole it and avoid the larger discussion. Have you or have you not ever heard other men objectifying women? Have you ever heard a friend make an inappropriate comment about the opposite sex? Have you ever heard a friend make an inappropriate comment about someone's race? Customs? Language? Disability? Or, I'm sorry,...have you ever heard another tradesperson at the scads of job sites you've been on make a comment in any way that could be accused of being inappropriate? **rhetorical question because I won't believe you anyway

Hope to God you don't have daughters.

Nope. Two boys...who will at some point most likely make an inappropriate comment about relations with a girl when talking with their buddies...because that's what guys do. That's what I've done. That's what every male poaster here has done at some point and that's what you've done. You don't need to deny it because I won't believe you.

“By the way, your daughter,” Stern said to Trump.

“She’s beautiful,” the brash businessman responded.

“Can I say this? A piece of ass,” Stern asked.

“Yeah,” Trump replied.

Father of the Year right there.

You mean there was some inappropriate discussion on the Howard Stern show? Knock me over with a feather.

Father of The Year? I doubt it. I also doubt Hillary could win Woman of The Year. You know,...with the way she shamed and blamed those women that were assaulted by her husband.
 
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Well, I find 71-00's contributions to be a bit more refined and show a little more capacity for broader thinking than 58. Even GSD is more on-the-ball than him. 58 offers very little challenge. But, he shows more balls by hanging in here with us. So, for that, he gets a big prop from me.
I was being facetious when I said that. What I've learned from those guys is we have some stubborn white guys around here.
 
Someone on the Iowa board offered this:

"Man, if it was his goal to deliver Clinton the Presidency and splinter the R party, I take back calling him a moron... he's a genius."

Trump is hardly a true Republican. He loves the attention. And, he never wanted to be president. The only downside was the deception to his supporters.
 
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