NorCalTarheel said:

Dave & Dunk - I appreciate the optimism and have tried to maintain it thus far as well. I also posted pregame that we shouldn't get our panties in a wad when we get blown out at Duke. Horrible matchup of size and talent on their home floor.

What has really turned the corner on my thinking is that we are on our 23rd game of Hubert's 4th season. We finally saw a zone and a game where we switched defenses. Both slowed dook, at least long enough for them to try to figure out what we were doing.

Size is difficult to deal with on the basketball court, but not impossible. I'll never forget playing against a 7' 2 dude in college (I'm 6'7). You can't just look at the mismatch and walk off the court. You have to figure out how to utilize whatever advantage you have. So I'll ask again, what happened to utilizing our strengths that we talked about before the season began. We knew we were going to be small and we talked about pressing and running waves of people at opponents. What I have seen so far this year is half court sets (actually it's usually just one play) and us pounding the ball into the floor until we have 8 seconds left in the shot clock.

Unfortunately, all of the issues plaguing this team ultimately come down to coaching. From composition of the team, to the way utilize our players, to lineups, to sub patterns, team chemistry, and of course the X's and O's all stop with Hubert.

As I just said in another thread, I take no joy in saying that I believe Hubert needs to be replaced.

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Kool1234567 said:

You say cream puff schedule…Man we are the cream puff now….we start a lineup that NC Central would start….Think about that….

5’11 ——PG
5’11——-SG
6’4——-SF
6’3——-PF
6-7——-C


WTF is going on that a Head Coach would think this is a good lineup…It’s a clown show…

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tarwhiz said:

Spot on. My expectations for Eliott Cadeau moving forward have changed.
When we signed him, I always thought he would be here for two years.
After watching him play this season, I think there is a better chance of him playing 3-4 years in College, than playing 2.
NBA needs shotmakers, and positional size.
EC has neither at this time.
I think he will improve a great deal as a shotmaker, but he isn't close currently.
Carolina benefits with Cadeau being fair/ good shooter rather than great shooter
( longshot at best) because then we will have him a long time. I think Cadeau as a Jr/ Sr would be filthy.

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What Would Jesus Do? said:

Not sure why we think we could lure Oats from his successes at Alabama to take over a dumpster fire here.

While looking up Oats to see if he maybe had some strong NC connections - apparently not - I ran into this Wikipedia comment

During the days immediately after Hurley announced his departure, Buffalo's athletic director at the time, Danny White, interviewed the team's players, all of whom advocated for Oats becoming the permanent head coach.​

Which makes me wonder who among our current coaches our players would rally around if told that Hubert was being cut loose. Would they try to save Hubert? Would they get behind Marcus? Who's the players' choice?

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What Would Jesus Do? said:

If we lose to Pitt at home and to Clemson on the road, Hubert is gone. Just a guess.

If Hubert is cut loose, who becomes temporary head coach? I assume it would be Lebo or Frederick. I wonder which the players would prefer.

If Hubert manages to survive the next 2 games, UNC has a pretty creampuffy schedule until the Duke rematch. Out of 6 games, only @FSU "should" be much concern. So whoever is coach - Hubert, Lebo or Frederick - will have a chance to fix things and maybe even get us into the tournament.

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Goheels83 said:

Is North Carolina serious? What UNC does with basketball coach Hubert Davis will tell us
https://sports.yahoo.com/north-carolina-serious-unc-does-020845012.html
Holy crap did anybody see this article in USA Today

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DSouthr said:

This game, as I shared in the game thread, encapsulated in the very last bucket duke got to end the first half. 6'9", #1 pick over all in the next NBA draft hits a jump shot over 5'11" RJ Davis. Duke started 2 6'6" guards, their PG looked like a NFL line backer, a sweet shooting 6'7" projected as a lotto in the next draft in K'snipple, 6'9" #1 pick in the next NBA draft, and Malisquatch at what 7'2 and can hang on the rim while standing flat footed on the court? That is insane length, not just a length advantage at every single position but huge length advantage at each position. Just have to realize how hard that is to contend with.

Your passing lanes shrink, they left Malasquatch in the paint choking off drives. The biggest team in NCAA vs one of the smallest teams in the NCAA, size matter a heck of a lot. I am actually more proud that those kids stood up and fought their behinds off in that second half. I actually saw Hubert do something I did not expect, we actually went to a zone, we actually used multiple defenses I can't recall Hubert having us in a zone since he has been head coach. That was a bit of an amazing half time adjustment, maybe Hubert is beginning to learn.

Team looked intimidated in that first half but they came out and played hard in that second half. It is one thing to watch duke play on tape but UNC simply can not replicate it to be able to be prepared for it, you can only experience it and experience it we darn sure did. I felt going in we were in for a butt kicking experience, I actually felt we would get beat by 30+, it is just a game of match ups and this is the worst match up we could face.

Now I get it, this game feeds to frenzy of the Hubert must go movement, some may not like my not being as upset over this or this game as they are. I am simply looking for positives, looking for things, even this late in the season that show me that we are moving more in a positive direction. Now if we can take how we played and build on it against Pitt, we can take that game. My concern is we have been in this position to build on a tough nose second half come back before only to come out un-prepared in the next.

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