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bluetoe said:
that's a good point but I think a better one is that libs invented the concept of man-made hurricanes being directed at certain populations. Many libs were largely convinced that GW Bush created and sicced Hurricane Katrina on the black people living in and around New Orleans, because he hated black people.

Sounds silly, but it isn't that much of an exaggeration.
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I just realized, you might not be just stupid. You seem to be completely delusional as well. Again, try therapy.
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Preseason Rankings: AP vs Pomeroy

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What Would Jesus Do? said:
OK, I won't. But since you are a top influencer here, I will offer others one example.

If Pomeroy's ratings are worthless or no good then that will be easy to test. Just do this thought experiment...

1. Create a ratings list of all 364 teams by selecting them at random.
2. Get Pomeroy's ratings.
3. Compare the random list with Pomeroy's list at different points throughout the season.
4. The null hypothesis is that neither will be appreciably better at predicting reality.

I'll bet on Pomeroy. Who's betting Pomeroy is no better than random?
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Sorry, but LMAO. That is patentaly absurd (not to mention flunks basic face validity).
Come on, man. If you select teams at random it's literally a coin-flip as to whether ANY alternative selection order will be better or worse, even if it's chosen by a trained chicken.

Moreover, by that logic, every single basketball fan of even the most rudimentary acumen will do better than random because they all know (just for example) that Gonzaga will be better than Elon.

I look at stats --- hell, as a "Dean disciple" I used them when I coached (and probably more than my contemporaries). You can certainly look back and say we need to be better this season at, say, "TO ratio" or the like, but as a fan until this season's games are played, all those "advanced metrics" from the past aren't gonna tell you any more or less than a reasonably aware eye will as to eventual records, any more than any one preseason poll is destined to be any more accurate than another.

I don't know what your obsession with this pomeroy stuff is about, but again hey, enjoy what you enjoy. And so with that said, my advice is to let it go and look forward to Monday.
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OOTB's Political Thread . ..

bluetoe
pooponduke said:
The whole control the weather thing ranks up there with the moon landings being in some secret movie set for me. But, I do wonder about one aspect of the topic that seems to be an inconsistency. I'm supposed to think that man made efforts could not possibly impact or somehow influence anything in regard to a singular storm, but I am supposed to believe and not ever question that human activity is the singular reason for and has direct impact on the entire alleged change in the overall climate such that human behavior must be modified to an extent that it will forever change life as we know it. Just seems like it would be the other way around.
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that's a good point but I think a better one is that libs invented the concept of man-made hurricanes being directed at certain populations. Many libs were largely convinced that GW Bush created and sicced Hurricane Katrina on the black people living in and around New Orleans, because he hated black people.

Sounds silly, but it isn't that much of an exaggeration.
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OOTB's Political Thread . ..

gunslingerdick
heelmanwilm said:
But it’s not “asking”. It’s a law. Then another law which only exists because the other law was enacted first. Hence the “knee jerk” Bottom line I feel it’s the parents call. Do you agree with that?
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Of course it’s the parents’ call. But as you can see from the link I provided, there are many Dems who don’t think it should be the parents’ call. Therefore a law stating it’s the parents’ call seems reasonable whereas one that states otherwise is completely absurd. No?
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Other ACC Games Week 10

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All games this week are on Saturday.

5-3 (3-2) Louisville heads into Death Valley against 6-1 (5-0) Clemson. All 3 Cards losses are by 7 points. So they are a threat against anybody. Clemson dropped in the polls on a Bye week. The Tigers still must go to VT and Pitt and then finish at Home vas. The Citadel and SoCar. The ACC needs Clemson to finish no worse tan 10-2.

6-2 (2-2) Dook is coming off a heartbreaker to SMU. The devils own team will play at 8-0 (4-0) Miami. A massive hurricane destroying all things Dook is what's needed.

2-6 (1-4) Stanford travels to the apex of Wuffie high culture. The 4-4 (1-3) Pack await. This would be a nice time for the Cardinal to have another hot and very lucky game.

5-3 (3-1) VT is headed to the Dome to face the 5-2 (2-2) Orange.A 1 loss ACC team can make the ACC CCG, so the Hokies are fighting to remain in the hunt. Syracuse is fighting to get a decent bowl.

7-0 (3-0) Pitt goes west to Big D where the 7-1 (4-0) SMU Mustangs await. SMU's lone loss is close one to BYU, and BYU easily could be in the Big 12 Championship Game. The winner of this home should step up nicely in the polls.
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OOTB's Political Thread . ..

bluetoe
joeydavid said:
Suspicious? Lol You just need to accept that you have a very low IQ and constantly fall for idioticnonsense. It's OK. We all knew people like you in grade school.
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lol, that you only reference grade school, being as how that's apparently as far as you made it. And speaking of low IQ's, I'm thinking of yours since I'm decidedly NOT falling for your 'idioticnonsense'. Get it? I guess not.

Insults and pejoratives are fine when they are well-founded. You don't have the mental acuity to understand that making the empty, ill-founded claims that you do is like insulting yourself. Maybe you shouldn't have dropped out.
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OOTB's Political Thread . ..

bluetoe
What Would Jesus Do? said:
He gave you a book reference. Have you read it yet?

It's very interesting.

Who you gonna believe? Woodward or some FOX talking head?
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no, I haven't read it because I'm not interested in it, and I'm not going to do so in order to find a single reference somewhere within it. That's why I asked him to do so, since he apparently has read it and since he is the one who either doesn't get the concept of substantiating his claims or deflects from claims that are just bullshit to begin with. See how conservatives are the ones with common sense who back up what they contend and libs are the ones who mostly spew caca? You probably don't.

However, I had already done a quick search on what McMasters has said about Trump in that regard and nothing approaching joeyjoey's claim about Trump seeking to help Putin run all over Western Europe came up. Wouldn't you think a sensational statement like that would be easy to find. You probably don't.

As to the question of who I will believe, that depends on WHAT I would be considering believing. That hasn't been presented in any credible form or at all as of yet. See what I'm saying about how common sense works? I doubt you do.
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OOTB's Political Thread . ..

bluetoe
Heels Noir said:
One minute you guys are calling Biden a senile old man who is too decrepit to put two logical sentences together. Then he says something stupid like this and you're trying to equate that with the Trump oeuvre of idiotic comments? Yeah, right.
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let's see. A clear-headed individual in full control of his mental faculties who occasionally says stupid things, or a derelict political has-been who has lost control of both his mental faculties and his bowels and occasionally does NOT say stupid things while running the country amuck. You're right, there's not much comparison. I'm still going with Trump, oeuvre and all, especially since Harris is even worse in the 'says stupid things' department..

New word 'oeuvre' though, had to look that one up. It said 'word used mostly by 'fruitcakes' '. And of course by 'fruitcakes', I'm sure that means only in the weirdo sense of the word.
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