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Quick stuff (BC game)...

Well, if nothing else, this was an entertaining game, like 2 boxers standing in the middle of the ring trading blows or that new slap fighting thing, no defense just hit me! LOL I think maybe I took more positives from this game than many, oh of course there for a few minutes I couldn't help but think, welcome to a Loyola Marymount Tar Heel game?

On the offensive end one of the best showings we have had in a while. I was very happy to see RJ playing more within himself rather than trying to be the hero. Some absolutely beautiful assists from RJ to Jalen, in particular, I like the emphasis over all to include our front court in the offense. Seth looked more like the Seth we had before than concussion, I don't think he is yet 100% back but each game he looks closer. Jack, felt he responded like I want to see a young kid respond when he didn't start the second half and I LOVE how he did that, by looking more to drive than settle for a jumper but not driving in to the teeth of the defense. Cadeau, played pretty well for the most part of this game, I am talking the offensive end for all so far, have not yet talked about the other end of the court. But those TO's were not just bad, they seemed to be brain dead? This kid just seems to do that, like his brain freezes at some point in every game where he nearly hands the ball to his defender? And then he does something amazing, some of those finishes from him were just tough tough? Seth's double double, 12 boards at 6'3", that is tough as nails. Claude, kid just came in and played hard nosed and about as physical as we can get, best I have seen from him as a Tar Heel. Got to give Jalen credit for those 18pts, easy looks yeah but he put himself in position for the easy look and was ready to finish and that has not always been true of our bigs this season.

Hubert, frankly, not his worse game as a coach, the only thing I did not agree with personnel wise was not using JWit more. Out side of that I was not mad at his sub decisions. Starting Cadeau, RJ, Jack, and Seth I hope was only because BC is a smaller team, that can't be our starting line up against Pitt. I did like that after BC scored we tended to run it right back down their throats, rather than passively walk it up, so we did get a lot of right back at ya scores. Yeah, trying to make some chicken salad here but one of the things we struggled with was scoring and at least in that aspect we did well, biscuits is always a good thing. And not to forget, we shot what was it, 32 or 34 treys last game, this one we shot I think it was 16. THANK YOU! As I have said for years now, just score, don't be so worried if you are beyond the 3pt line or not just score. Yesterday we just scored and we eat biscuits, game before we bombs away from trey and neither scored or won. You can lecture me all you want about how 3 is better than 2 and I will as always come back with 2 beats the heck out of ZERO and you will shut up till the next time you try the same lecture on me. This team does NOT need to shoot a ton of treys, it needs to make shots no matter where they come from!
But then there was the defensive end and on defense UNC was offensive, none of them did the so called little things, not when they allow the other team to score at will.

1) Since when did it become allowable that you give up the base line drive, you don't give up the baseline, you turn him back in to traffic, that is so basic and yet over and over we allowed it? Dang it Jalen, you are getting bullied and backed down, I get that his 270lbs is a problem but you can't just give him the baseline, you can't get any help that way, turn him to the paint and maybe you will get some help.

2) I think this auto switching is making our guys both lazy as well as confused, it takes away the need to fight thru screens, you should only switch when absolutely necessary. It is taking our guys a half step to realize the switch and way to often it sets up yet another wide open look for a shooter and our defender has to long a run to hassle the shot. Have we totally given up on teaching big men how to hedge the high screen, it looks like we have?

3) Communication or the lack of it is a thing I am sick and tired of hearing, this is not a team of deaf mutes, why do they act like they are? It is your job to communicate, don't care if it is your nature or not, I don't care if you send damn smoke signals, let your team mates know for example they are about to get nailed by a set screen, call out the switch so your team mates knows and does not have to guess. Talk to each other!

4) You see a team mate that is not putting in the work needed you get in his arse, you make him understand that is not acceptable !

5) You see one of your team mates plowed overtly physical on our offensive end you pay that crap back, don't back down from that crap, you stand and fight. They send a physical message you send one right back!

6) What happened to a team mate needing help you help him and your mates rotate to the next most likely pass to cover your help? When we do help way to often no one rotates over to the open guy left by the helper, you do realize other teams have watched that on tape right? And what happens when that help does not come, well you get Jalen at a long but lean 225lbs trying to fight off a 270lbs guy that is backing him down, how do you think that is going to work out? Or a guard a half step behind a guard driving down hill getting a lay up? What you want is for Jalen to hedge that big man away from the baseline, and force him to turn in to the paint, when that big man turns his head with the dribble you attack his dribble while his head is turned and can't see the attack.

7) I see a LOT of our guys having their heads turned AWAY from the ball on the defensive end? How the heck do you know what is going on with the ball and thus what you need to do when your head is not turned to the ball, does anyone here have eyes in the backs of our heads?

These are simple basic things, up there with raise your hands as a defender, stuff that should be ingrained in a kid way before he gets to college, up there with don't pass the ball to the other team Elliot...
Couldn't agree more Dave. especially the last 7 points listed. We are not fundamentally sound and that ultimately falls on the staff to rectify that and instill those basic principles into the players.
If thats the case (I haven't been able to attend this season) common sense and my soccer coaching tell me that right before the game is no time to be making mistakes. If you're purposely loose and not still locked in on the basics it opens you up to mistakes when they matter.
Amen Geth. Could that be one of the reasons that we've gotten such a poor start out of the gate so many times this season? I believe discipline has been relaxed too much under Hubert's tenure as HC.

OMG

Garcia had the clutch buzzer beater in their huge upset win about a week ago as well. I think he had like 31 and 11 boards or something in that one though. I for one enjoy seeing them do well.

Caleb was Pac-10 player of the year last year, and has had a kinda like RJ step back this year. Dawson is probably going to be 1st team all Big- 10.

OMG

I know it sounds crazy because you bring losing in regulation into the equation... But I would miss the second FT. Arizona has no timeouts, a big man is probably getting the rebound, then he has to gather then move towards the basket while getting a shot off.

I mean, I don't think Iowa State did anything improperly, Caleb Love made a 1/100 shot, lol. But I think missing the second FT avoids certain things that gave Caleb a chance to even get that

OOTB's Political Thread . ..



"While increased awareness has made it easier for some children to express their struggles, we cannot ignore the possibility that social contagion, along with peer influence and social media—may be contributing to this surge," he said.
and "Mental health experts warned social factors could be contributing to the rise in gender dysphoria in children, after a new study found cases have skyrocketed over a ten-year period."

This is why I used to tell our resident changeling carolinablue (can't recall the exact handle) that I wasn't against any individual who crosses over but that I was adamantly against the condition being promoted in any way and to any audience, but most especially children. And this is why I want @strummingham to come around and tell us once again that there's no problem, we're just uptight neanderthals who are 'afraid' of and hate transgenders.

OMG

I can't in that situation, a second on the clock, they inbound it 70 feet from the basket if he gets into shooting motion, you just gave him 3 shots to tie the game from 65 feet out. He hit a nearly 3 quarter court shot 😳.
I know it sounds crazy because you bring losing in regulation into the equation... But I would miss the second FT. Arizona has no timeouts, a big man is probably getting the rebound, then he has to gather then move towards the basket while getting a shot off.

I mean, I don't think Iowa State did anything improperly, Caleb Love made a 1/100 shot, lol. But I think missing the second FT avoids certain things that gave Caleb a chance to even get that shot off.

A nostalgic 1989 reminder to Coach Davis and Coach Lebo...

It was off a missed shot. Pete started in half-court defense like everyone else. He just sprinted to the rim as he was taught.
Great, well executed push back at that them after what looks to be being beaten down court themselves. It does look like a run back after a failed dook fast break though. There are only 2 Heels and 3 from dook even in the picture below the 3 point lines ( one barely in screen, pivoting and trying to get back cause he knows the miss is giving up numbers). A quick miss with most players still crossing half court, well executed for sure with the numbers, with the big rim running and good spacing.

A nostalgic 1989 reminder to Coach Davis and Coach Lebo...

Check out that roster. The only freshman was Davis (and he was offered basically as a favor to his uncle). Amazing how continuity and familiarity with teammates can make an offense (and defense) so much more fluid and efficient. That play never makes a Sportscenter top 10 list but it wins games.

Sometimes the simple, old stuff is a good idea.
Yep, and here's the other beauty of the Secondary: Even when you don't get anything off the action, it gives you continuity motion into Freelance (as opposed to having to call plays from the bench on the fly every damn time).

As y'all know, Roy took the Secondary to the next level, adding wrinkles and options, which made perfect sense in the shorter shot-clock era. Where we really perfected it was in 2017, when we'd often go thru several iterations, and if it got down to 8-10 seconds, we'd get the rock back to Joel at the top and we pretty much ALWAYS got a good look.

Unfortunately, after Joel we didn't have another floor general to pull that off --- well, until now, if we'd actually use that luxury.

A nostalgic 1989 reminder to Coach Davis and Coach Lebo...

FWIW, the gif doesn't show his starting location. He could've already been across half court when the posession change occurred. Wherever he was, he made a break toward the basket catching his man severely out of position, coupled with the patience of #20.

To me the most impressive part of the clip is the "point to the passer" acknowledgement by JR, who wasn't even the one who made the pitch ahead, the assist, nor the made basket (I do acknowledge that I can't say that with 100% surety from the context of the clip though; just "extrapolating")
It was off a missed shot. Pete started in half-court defense like everyone else. He just sprinted to the rim as he was taught.

A nostalgic 1989 reminder to Coach Davis and Coach Lebo...

Would love a big that can run rim to rim like that.

Not too sure a 55 foot pass is wide ass open like that with modern athletes but it would be nice to have a set of bigs that can get down the court rim to rim.
WHAT??? "Modern athletes"? LMAO. Just who in the hell do you think you were watching there?

And literally EVERY BIg on our current roster is perfectly capable of rim-running. It's a matter of what they're being told to do.

As for that long pitch-ahead, it was done correctly down the sideliine --- and WHY was that open? Because the retreating defense had to scramble to account for our guys in the Secondary lanes, ESPECIALLY the guy stressing the rim.

A nostalgic 1989 reminder to Coach Davis and Coach Lebo...

You have people that have spent every moment of their life after playing, while coaching as an assist or sitting around as a fan and thinking, I could do it better or I would do it this way or that way and then when they get the shot they do all the things they thought was better and find out that coach they watched for year did what they did for a reason.

That is the only explanation of why they would go away from what they know and have seen work.
Trying to reinvent the proverbial wheel... or falling for silly NBA fads.
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