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Preseason Rankings: AP vs Pomeroy

Look, I'm not attacking you, I am (quite properly) calling out an "analytics" site that is "analyzing" something that hasn't happened yet.
These things are not in a vacuum. For example, that jackass Katz is already spouting off as to how the ACC is supposedly once again "down".
Seriously?
Again, the first shot hasn't been taken and invented narratives are already out there, and this junk affects ACC tourney bids and seeding (and thus, recruiting), whether or not some want to admit it.

PLUS... if you want to get to the nitty-gritty of the math, using arbutrary assumptions as baselines invariably skews the numbers.
pomeroy is what it is --- it ain't all that --- but should least wait for actual games to set their statistical baselines.
My understanding from something I read on his site years back is that his preseason rankings used to be based mainly on his ratings of returning players, coach ratings, and school tradition. In an era when players weren't moving around very much, that sounds like a pretty good foundation.

Obviously it's lacking in accounting for new recruiting classes, and I can't remember if he had some way of incorporating those data. And, of course, the portal era means tracking all those extra moves.

Seems to me Pomeroy's approach is a pretty smart way of looking at it. For those of us without your skills, it gives us a leg up on the coming season while we wait for the actual games, and for folks like you to weigh in.
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OOTB Carolina football discussion thread

I didn't get to see the GT game, but I turned on the radio and heard the last minute. On GT's last scoring play, the radio guys said it looked like they were just trying to run out the clock and take it to overtime, yet were able to break through for a 60+ yard score. Is that how it looked on TV? Did the TV commentators have the same impression--that GT wasn't even trying to score/get into FG range?

Next Head Football Coach

We need to win more than we need to be "flashy".

A Dave Clawson type approach would work for a period of time. A coach that has had experience at a private or academically elite public to satisfy the administration, build a solid program and still be able to win 8-9 games a year.

Monken has proven himself.
Sumrall might work if he can sustain Fitz's program.
Chadwell, A huge leap from a CUSA school. Would we take a chance on another coach from East Tennessee?

What’s Left for the Tar Heels?

The only thing left for this football season is to see Mack stepping away, one way or another, and then the hiring of the next HC.
This is sad but true.
Mack's CEO approach could only work with top flight assistants which he couldn't attract from the get go. He saddled himself with rookie coaches and retreaded yes men and failed to build a program even with better than average recruits.

OOTB's Political Thread . ..

1?

10% of republicans have said that they are voting for Kamala. There's a reason so many former trump supporters and members of his administration have endorsed Kamala.

I know you think everyone is in your cult but there's still a few conservatives that think the GOP can be saved.
the only cult I know of is the cult of believing that every supporter of Trump is in a cult....the 'cult of the TDS mindfvcked' for short. The thoroughly mindfvcked by TDS dwell on meaningless numbers about republicans and post them just as meaninglessly, probably out of fear of those electoral votes going the wrong way.

So, speaking of your TDS mindfvckedness, what was posted and what I replied to referred to one person voting for one candidate, just as I said. As a matter of fact, when you hit the link the twitter or X or whatever the F it is provides, you are met with this...

VOICES: One vote for Sherrod Brown​


That's one vote for one candidate. C'mon joeyjohnjimmyjoe. Get a grip.
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