gary-7 said:

Look, there's no objection to rants --- I know my pen will never be the same after several table slams --- so yeah, I get it.

Meanwhile, before I respond, allow me to digress for a second:

I just watched another game tonight, and the very idea that Doug Shows is allowed within 50 feet of a basketball arena wearing a striped shirt is an abomination on the game. Lord knows, he and Groover gave us a royal butt-f***ing in Winston Tuesday, and with all that said, I have little doubt that one or both of those jabronies will show up in Durham Saturday...

Anyway, while I'm not backing away from my systemic critiques of what we are doing (and the 1st-half defensive no-show tonight), there were some things that can be objectively taken as positives. For example, we batted a thousand in OT on the offensive end, while making enough plays on the other end to take a must-win home...

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notashelbyfan said:

Keep in mind this is the same team with a better version on Jackson and Powell not that earlier in the year played Florida, Kansas, Michigan State, and Louisville and had shots to win all 3 of those games but lost so I have a hard time believing that talent is our issue. You don't play teams like that well, and then wet the bed against Stanford, and have to pull wins out of your ass against BC and ND unless there are issues elsewhere.

I rarely agree with Gary on anything but what we do agree on is misuse of the players we do have.

If we don't make a change we are headed for mediocrity, in the long term.

Getting Caleb Wilson is a huge help but if he can keep what we should be having back next and use Wilson right then we are going to be on the same track we are on now.

I don't know about everyone else but I am not going to be satisfied with one year okay and the next year sucking pattern and that where we look to be right now.

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DaveChapelle said:

To start with he fouls way too much. His foul rate is significantly higher than Washington, Withers, and Lubin. The only big with a worse foul rate is Claude, and in recent games Brown has played while Claude has not. UNC has been in NINE games decided by one possession. You can't give minutes to guys who are going to give the opposing team free throws when the margin between winning and losing is so close.

Secondly, he has the worst rebounding rate of any big on the roster, including walk-on Holbrook.

Why did UNC recruit him? He was a top 40 big that seemed to be climbing towards 5 star status. After he committed he plummeted down the rankings over the remainder of his high school career. He finished ranked 122 and 3 star on at least one site.

That doesn't mean we should give up on him becoming a good player over time. It just means your initial comment was wrong. He is in fact the worst big on our roster. Had we been able to buy a good portal center, he probably should have redshirted.

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JovialMuse said:

The rational part of my brain knows that sometimes bad teams just have good nights against you and also that it's really difficult for teams to bring their all every game, especially against less talented teams with big games coming up. But, man, this was really hard to watch. I have almost zero confidence that UNC can win any of the next 4 games. On a positive note, I do remember a really bad home loss to Pitt in 2022 and feeling the same way and then the team clicking and going on that magical run. Conversely, with the exception of 2024, all of our teams under Hubert have had these months-long stretches of atrocious unCarolina basketball. I listened to the podcast with Pinson, Felton, and JJ recently where they chalked this up to missing in the portal and the need for players to shoulder responsibility. But if we can't also recognize an inability to bring in the necessary talent to arguably the most storied basketball school with what should be almost unlimited funds and big names then what are we doing? Or if we can't recognize an inability to adapt to roster imperfections and still maximize the top 15 in the country talent that is there...what are we doing?

End of rant. Glad we won. But still, ugh

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JovialMuse said:

The rational part of my brain knows that sometimes bad teams just have good nights against you and also that it's really difficult for teams to bring their all every game, especially against less talented teams with big games coming up. But, man, this was really hard to watch. I have almost zero confidence that UNC can win any of the next 4 games. On a positive note, I do remember a really bad home loss to Pitt in 2022 and feeling the same way and then the team clicking and going on that magical run. Conversely, with the exception of 2024, all of our teams under Hubert have had these months-long stretches of atrocious unCarolina basketball. I listened to the podcast with Pinson, Felton, and JJ recently where they chalked this up to missing in the portal and the need for players to shoulder responsibility. But if we can't also recognize an inability to bring in the necessary talent to arguably the most storied basketball school with what should be almost unlimited funds and big names then what are we doing? Or if we can't recognize an inability to adapt to roster imperfections and still maximize the top 15 in the country talent that is there...what are we doing?

End of rant. Glad we won. But still, ugh

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Kool1234567 said:

What Big Men has May produce…

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al would said:

no bro ... maybe the lower deck but I saw some tv shots and the top was very light from what I saw.

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notashelbyfan said:

Logically speaking if we have enough talent to had a shot to beat 4 of those teams then we have enough talent to not be squeaking out wins against Boston College at home in overtime

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