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Quick stuff (GT game)...

...and this will be a bit longer for those who get it.

So... once again we come out flat, but most noticible is that nobody (other than maybe Seth) is playing anywhere near their abilities right now. Bigs aren't looking to score, we don't finish with any consistency, Drake looked lost, RJ is forcing shots and Eliot is forcing passes. Ultimately, it does no good to scapegoat individual players --- as I've tried to explain, the underlying issue here is SCHEME.

- Before I get into that, two 2nd half moments exemplified our struggles: EC hits ahead to RJ in transition wide-open at his favorite Wing 3 spot, and misses pretty badly. Moments later, RJ on a called play (same spot) freezes his man with his patented step-back, but again, clang. I'll bet I wasn't the only one here saying "last year RJ makes that", huh? OK, so reality is RJ is in a bad shooting slump right now --- slumps happen --- but what it should expose is that we shouldn't HAVE to rely on RJ to shoot us out of trouble.

What's getting us in this trouble is scheme. THAT is the catalyst for most of the issues we're (painfully) watching.

- To wit: Since I started keeping specific game notes back in 2014, I create a grid to track our scores by 4 categories:
Fast Break (primary with number advantage or ahead of the defense)
Secondary Break (including iterations and reversals)
Half Court (Freelance or player-called actions on the fly)
Set Plays (Called from bench or OB situations)

- As an example of how things CAN work, during the last Natty season 16-17 there were some games in which there were more points in the Secondary box than any other (all wins, unsurprisingly). Most of those points won't show up in box score "fast break" stats, but it has been the key to our success.

- In stark contrast, today (aside from 4 FTs in late Press Offense, we had 5 --- count'em FIVE --- Secondary points (and 7 vs bama). Folks, that dog ain't gonna hunt. Look, I've already explained exactly how we've f***ed up the Secondary scheme, so I won't revisit it, but it also has a ripple effect by making us start Freelance from a static set vs an unstressed defense.

- That then leads us into the foibles of unsound 5-out offense. Yikes. Unless you're raining in Steph Curry range 3s, 5-out actually creates LESS perimeter space than 4-out, and makes us just too damn EASY to defend. Moreover, there's a reason coaches have long preached "inside-out" --- it's basic applied geometry. The ball has to periodically go inside WITH A PURPOSE. The Big needs to look to score (and not just be a passer), because even if it's not always successful, it STRESSES the defense vertically thus making it difficult to track perimeter motion. Right now, defenders are just anticipating and swarming RJ's cuts without having to look over their shoulders, and they're also anticipating Eliot's PnR dishes. We are easy to scout.

- Our impotency in inside threat also showed up vs their 1-1-3 matchup --- and jeez, can't even flush a perfect lob play. It's not good when our "paint" points are almost all from Guards driving.

- OK, some positives: I still can't believe we out rebounded them. It was definitely a group effort, which it will need to be going forward for sure.

- Starting just after the under-8, we legtimately turned up some defensive intensity and shut them out of FGs for a long stretch. Seth was a terror, and gotta give a shout-out to EC here, who despite apparently fighting a virus, was also key. In particular, when EC was out Stoudamire was having his taller PG iso RJ, but Eliot absolutely stoned him with some damn good footwork.

- Although we missed three front-end FTs, Seth and Ian knocked down the big ones in crunch time. Now, why we were somehow still in 1-and-1 so late is a whole nuther issue, but we'll leave that for another day.

- Finally, bottom line is there's no way this Tech team should lead us during the 2nd half of a game. I mean, they are competitive but their most dangerous shooter transfered to Auburn --- speaking of whom, found out what the ACC knows about the striped treatment at HIS, the sort of home-cooking we can never seem to get --- but I digress. Our issues these days are self-inflicted.

Anyway, we toughed out a win that shouldn't have been so hard, so there's that. And I don't mean to down-play this win --- Lord knows a loss would've been disastorus --- as the guys sucked it up and fought for 8 key minutes down the stretch for the W. The bad news is that right about now, we're Fast Break or "Hoo-Boy", so I've said it before --- December is for adjustments, and we are in dire need of doing just that. The upcoming practices and LaSalle would seem to be the ideal time. I'd rather not wait untiI UF and UCLA. I suppose we shall see... :oops:

UNC 68, Georgia Tech 65 postgame notes

UNC 68, GEORGIA TECH 65
DECEMBER 7, 2024
CHAPEL HILL, N.C.

UNC Scoring Leader:
Seth Trimble 19
UNC Rebound Leader: Ven-Allen Lubin 8
UNC Assist Leader: Elliot Cadeau 4
Team Records: UNC 5-4, 1-0 ACC; Georgia Tech 4-5, 0-1 ACC

• Carolina is 58-14 in ACC openers and 64-8 in home ACC openers.
• The Tar Heels are 73-28 all-time vs. Georgia Tech, including 33-6 in Chapel Hill.
• Carolina is 28-5 against Georgia Tech in the Smith Center, winning 18 of the last 20 games against the Yellow Jackets in the Smith Center.
• UNC committed a season-high 18 turnovers. It was the most turnovers by the Tar Heels since they made 18 in a four overtime loss against Alabama on 11/27/22. It was the most turnovers in a regulation game since committing 20 against Duke on 3/6/21.
• Carolina grabbed a season-high 48 rebounds.
• Carolina shot 21.8% from three (5 of 24), its lowest percentage in a victory since shooting 8.7% against Notre Dame on 2/22/23.

• Carolina has shot less than 21% from three-point range in consecutive games for the first time since 2016.
• Carolina made 11 steals, which tied its season high (also Elon).
• UNC’s 31 first-half points were its fewest in a half this season.
• UNC held Georgia Tech to 31.3% from the floor, the second-lowest percentage by an opponent this season (American shot 31.1%).
• Carolina held Georgia Tech to 30 points in the first half, the fewest in a first half by an opponent this season.

• Seth Trimble led UNC with 19 points. He scored in double figures for the eighth time in nine games this season. He scored in double figures seven times in his first two seasons.
• Trimble led UNC in scoring for the third time this season.
• Trimble was 8 for 9 from the free throw line. The eight made free throws tied his career best (8 for 8 at Kansas on 11/8/24).
• Trimble tied his career high with four steals.
• Trimble also led UNC with three offensive rebounds, which tied his career high (Dayton).
• Ian Jackson scored in double figures (15) for the third consecutive game, the first time a Tar Heel freshman has scored in double figures in three straight games since Caleb Love did so in four straight games in 2021.

• RJ Davis hit multiple 3FGs for the fifth time this season (UNC is 4-1 this season when Davis hits multiple 3FGs) and the 84th time in his career. UNC is 64-20 when Davis makes multiple 3FGs.
• Davis scored 16 points. He is the only Tar Heel to score in double figures in all nine games this season.
• Elliot Cadeau’s seven turnovers were the most by a Tar Heel since Caleb Love had seven against Louisville on 2/21/22.
• Cadeau hit arguably the biggest shot of the game, a three-pointer with 2:26 to play that gave Carolina a 62-57 lead.
• Carolina used its third different starting lineup in the last three games, starting Elliot Cadeau, RJ Davis, Seth Trimble, Drake Powell and Ven-Allen Lubin. It was Lubin’s first start as a Tar Heel.
• The game featured 12 ties and nine lead changes, season highs in both categories.
• Carolina trailed by as many as eight points in the first half but took the lead on a 13-0 run.
• It was the fifth time this season UNC went on a double-digit run.
• Ty Claude was unavailable due to a right corneal abrasion.

Next Game: Saturday, December 14 vs. La Salle (4 p.m., The CW)

UNC vs Georgia Tech game thread (12/7/2024)

We'd have lost the game today if not for RJ's play at point guard. And a home loss to GT (which I believe qualifies as a quad 4 game) would have ended any chance at the NCAA tournament.

And none of Cadeau's turnovers today were a result of his teammates "not having a feel for him."
I agree and we definitely need both of them to do anything extra this year. lol I can’t even type final four after watching the last several games. I’d take making the tournament with two wins.

UNC vs Georgia Tech game thread (12/7/2024)

They don’t run an offense at all when RJ is “at the one”. EC hasn’t been good but he is the only PG on the roster again this year. Part of the problem is teammates that don’t have a feel for him, which got better last year but would be much better if the coach and the team were clear that he is the PG. EC, Trimble, Jackson, Powell, JWash/Lublin I believe would be a much more dynamic core by March but we’ll never know.
This was not true tonight. EC couldn’t run offense for turnovers. RJ literally passed up shots tonight for a better shot(surprised the crap out of me too)lol. If you were to listen to non biased announcers like this game, they literally nailed the heels problems. Front court, where are you? All points from the guards in the first half. Pitiful
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UNC vs Georgia Tech game thread (12/7/2024)

They don’t run an offense at all when RJ is “at the one”. EC hasn’t been good but he is the only PG on the roster again this year. Part of the problem is teammates that don’t have a feel for him, which got better last year but would be much better if the coach and the team were clear that he is the PG. EC, Trimble, Jackson, Powell, JWash/Lublin I believe would be a much more dynamic core by March but we’ll never know.
We'd have lost the game today if not for RJ's play at point guard. And a home loss to GT (which I believe qualifies as a quad 4 game) would have ended any chance at the NCAA tournament.

And none of Cadeau's turnovers today were a result of his teammates "not having a feel for him."
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UNC vs Georgia Tech game thread (12/7/2024)

1. Cadeau had 7 turnovers today. RJ was definitely better than Cadeau at running the team today.

2. Much of RJ's NIL comes from actual endorsements procured by his agent. It's not like his total NIL value would have suddenly been available had he not returned. You'd only be freeing up the amount UNC's NIL collective is directly paying RJ.
They don’t run an offense at all when RJ is “at the one”. EC hasn’t been good but he is the only PG on the roster again this year. Part of the problem is teammates that don’t have a feel for him, which got better last year but would be much better if the coach and the team were clear that he is the PG. EC, Trimble, Jackson, Powell, JWash/Lublin I believe would be a much more dynamic core by March but we’ll never know.
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UNC vs Georgia Tech game thread (12/7/2024)

So if they had spent RJs NIL on a big how much better could this team be? Blame EC all you want but they are two different teams depending on whether RJ decides to dominate the ball or not. Choosing him over EC is going to limit the ceiling. No way RJ earned 38 minutes today.
1. Cadeau had 7 turnovers today. RJ was definitely better than Cadeau at running the team today.

2. Much of RJ's NIL comes from actual endorsements procured by his agent. It's not like his total NIL value would have suddenly been available had he not returned. You'd only be freeing up the amount UNC's NIL collective is directly paying RJ.
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