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OOTB's Political Thread . ..

Which best describes your education? You have:​

2020

Never attended college (19%)46% Biden54% Trump
Attended college but received no degree (23%)51% Biden47% Trump
Associate's degree (AA or AS) (16%)47% Biden50% Trump
Bachelor's degree (BA or BS) (27%)51% Biden47% Trump
An advanced degree after a bachelor's degree (such as JD, MA, MBA, MD, PhD) (15%)62% Biden37% Trump
2024

Never attended college (15%)37% Harris62% Trump
Attended college but received no degree (26%)49% Harris50% Trump
Associate's degree (AA or AS) (16%)42% Harris55% Trump
Bachelor's degree (BA or BS) (24%)54% Harris44% Trump
An advanced degree after a bachelor's degree (such as JD, MA, MBA, MD, PhD) (19%)61% Harris37% Trump

So in 2024 the non-college folks went further red, the college educated folks further away from Trump.

OOTB's Political Thread . ..

Hey guys. I thought of a fun activity if y’all are bored. I’m going back and reading this thread in certain spots. I just took a break but I’m on page 1502 if y’all want to read along. The discussions around that time
were (1) Vance’s eyeliner and a bunch of innuendo about furniture, (2) how no black men in Michigan were voting for Trump and how Kamala was gaining momentum.

I’ll update as I find some bangers.
Why do you want to reread something that wasn't worth reading the first time?

OOTB's Political Thread . ..

Which best describes your education? You have:​

2020

Never attended college (19%)46% Biden54% Trump
Attended college but received no degree (23%)51% Biden47% Trump
Associate's degree (AA or AS) (16%)47% Biden50% Trump
Bachelor's degree (BA or BS) (27%)51% Biden47% Trump
An advanced degree after a bachelor's degree (such as JD, MA, MBA, MD, PhD) (15%)62% Biden37% Trump
2024

Never attended college (15%)37% Harris62% Trump
Attended college but received no degree (26%)49% Harris50% Trump
Associate's degree (AA or AS) (16%)42% Harris55% Trump
Bachelor's degree (BA or BS) (24%)54% Harris44% Trump
An advanced degree after a bachelor's degree (such as JD, MA, MBA, MD, PhD) (19%)61% Harris37% Trump

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Gender​

2020

Men (48%)45% Biden53% Trump
Women (52%)57% Biden42% Trump
2024

Men (47%)44% Harris54% Trump
Women (53%)54% Harris44% Trump

Race​

2020

White (67%)41% Biden58% Trump
Black (13%)87% Biden12% Trump
Hispanic/Latino (13%)65% Biden32% Trump
Asian (4%)61% Biden34% Trump
Other (4%)55% Biden41% Trump
2024

White (71%)43% Harris55% Trump
Black (11%)86% Harris12% Trump
Hispanic/Latino (12%)53% Harris45% Trump
Asian (3%)56% Harris38% Trump
Other (3%)43% Harris53% Trump

Sex by race​

2020

White men (35%)38% Biden61% Trump
White women (32%)44% Biden55% Trump
Black men (4%)79% Biden19% Trump
Black women (8%)90% Biden9% Trump
Latino men (5%)59% Biden36% Trump
Latino women (8%)69% Biden30% Trump
All other races (8%)58% Biden38% Trump
2024

White men (34%)39% Harris59% Trump
White women (37%)47% Harris52% Trump
Black men (5%)78% Harris20% Trump
Black women (7%)92% Harris7% Trump
Latino men (6%)44% Harris54% Trump
Latino women (6%)61% Harris37% Trump
All other races (6%)50% Harris45% Trump

Age group​

2020

18-29 (17%)60% Biden36% Trump
30-44 (23%)52% Biden46% Trump
45-64 (38%)49% Biden50% Trump
65 or over (22%)47% Biden52% Trump
2024

18-29 (14%)55% Harris42% Trump
30-44 (23%)51% Harris46% Trump
45-64 (35%)45% Harris53% Trump
65 or over (28%)50% Harris49% Trump
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Late stuff (Elon game)...

Geez, you're getting as bad as some others here. I was responding to a comment on recruiting misses.
I stand by every word I said! I respect your opinions even when I don't agree with them, and I don't feel like I can categorize you as a problem poster. I am extremely tired of the recruiting "miss" conversation because I don't see what can be done now. The Elon game had everything to do with poor execution at times, focus/intensity, and missing bunnies! The post you responded to, and your post had nothing to do with this game and seems to be just an attempt to keep this tired narrative going. Adding another Big would not have made those layups or dunks fall. Heck, on one occasion during Elon's run, we had 4 opportunities at point blank range and 2 of them were missed dunks! I loved that the team suffered some adversity, and I feel that secretly so did Hubs! Did we know they had grit before getting down by 2 in the 2nd half? I also feel Hubs experimented with some lineups like this was an exhibition and Elon took advantage. I prefer they learn from a win but even a loss would have been an incredibly strong teaching tool! BTW: I haven't changed one bit since I joined this site, I have always supported my team and coaches (some would say to a fault) AND I always take a dim view of peeps who constantly harp on the negative or who won't let an issue go! This issue seems to be some peep's white whale, but I hope this exciting team will make it better once they start clicking!
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When will Trump end the filibuster and pack the SC? The Dims wanted that right?

And all of a sudden, no one is talking about this.

Staying true to my beliefs, I don’t want to see the filibuster done away with and I don’t want to see court expansion. Alito and Thomas will do what RBG should have done and retire so Trump can replace them with younger justices.

OOTB's Political Thread . ..

Hey guys. I thought of a fun activity if y’all are bored. I’m going back and reading this thread in certain spots. I just took a break but I’m on page 1502 if y’all want to read along. The discussions around that time
were (1) Vance’s eyeliner and a bunch of innuendo about furniture, (2) how no black men in Michigan were voting for Trump and how Kamala was gaining momentum.

I’ll update as I find some bangers.

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No, no. You're taking my comment to mean I care. I don't. I'm simply highlighting that BLM has become annoyed and looks to be turning their back on the Dems. It's couples with all the other demographics that were once a safe bloc for the Dems waking up to the fact the Dems don't care about them. All the money in the world that kamala raised from miserable single white cat women won't save her. Trump is going to win by a lot.

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And these judicious non-sheep feel Trump is somehow different from people like Mark Robinson and Morrow?
It would appear that way based on outcome.

If so, why?
You'd have to ask them. The voter rolls are available on line. You can start with anyone you want to.

And what are the policies of Dan Bishop which are so bad he loses while Trump wins?
See above.

You're welcome.

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But they weren't. Whether it would make a difference in the eyes of the Supremes is an entirely different question. David Weiss was a sitting United States Attorney who had been confirmed by the Senate and was serving in that role when Garland appointed him to serve in a new capacity - he was essentially retasked. Thus, he was already working for the DOJ and had been confirmed by the Senate.

Jack Smith, on the other hand, was a former US Attorney who had resigned and was no longer serving in any capacity under Garland's authority. In fact, when Garland appointed him, Smith had for several years been serving as chief prosecutor for the Kosovo Specialist Chambers in The Hague, investigating war crimes in the Kosovo War. He resigned from that position to accept that of Special Prosecutor back in the US.

So, they are far different and the argument is that Smith would need to again be confirmed to serve in a role with the DOJ, whether as a special prosecutor or any other. Again, whether the SCt. will agree with that pitch or whether it is a distinction without one remains to be seen. But, they were not done the same way.

The entire discussion though is likely moot due to yesterday's events. Both will likely be resolved through other actions. The real question is what Judge Merchan does over the next couple of weeks.
You know I'm not reading that, so why type it?
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Well, the idea of never underestimating the stupidity of the masses is valid. Truth be told, but for that phenomenon, the incumbent would be ending his second term. Covid would have nailed anyone. The interesting aspect to me is that all they did was delay Trump's second term and instead of having to fight against a really weak incumbent in Pence as the automatic frontrunner, the future will be everyone running against JD. And if things go at all well, he will be formidable.
true dat. Thankfully, the masses got a little smarter. Having your previous poor choices staring you in the face every day will tend to do that.

If things go at all well. Vance will be unbeatable. He's impressive.

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I'm sure he's strutting around this morning like a peacock, but he's no smarter or dumber today than he was yesterday. In fact, if we're all aboard a ship crossing the Atlantic and @gunslingerdick is the captain, @bluetoe is the navigator, and @pooponduke is at the helm (with @nctransplant onboard as ballast because that's all he's good for), and suddenly we hit rough seas, who isn't putting on a life jacket?

I know I am and I'm also bending over and kissing my ass goodbye.
that old joke. Two guys hiking through the woods are accosted by a bear, and one immediately starts changing into some running shoes. The other says 'hurry up let's go, you can't outrun a bear with those'. Running shoe guy says, 'I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you'.

So @gunslingerdick slinger doesn't have to be any smarter than he was yesterday, he just has to have been smarter than you. And he was, or else you would have been bending over and kissing your ass goodbye yesterday.

Now just sit back and relax, enjoy the cruise. We're going to take good care of you and everybody else who doesn't deserve to have it so good. Our first port of call is Haiti, we have some cargo to return there....If I can find it. Har har.

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Who would care? She lost any value to R's when she sold out and the D's have no use for her now that she won't be sitting beside KH to nod.

She is a textbook example of being careful what political road you drive down. It's a good thing she's gotten rich off of foreign wars.
You mean M's for maga instead of R's? R used to mean conservative.

There is nothing conservative (free market?) about tariffs.
Letting Ukraine fall to Russia isn't conservative.
Trying to create a massive deportation machine is as "big guvment" as it gets.
Conservatives claim to be tough on crime, but look the other way when it comes to pressuring states to find votes.

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"get the economy working again for regular working class americans"
"fix immigration"
"get crime under control"
... later mentions inflation.

He is right.

But aside for inflation/prices, the economy is humming. And I don't think Trump can do much about inflation/prices. Polled Americans admitted their own financial state was okay but that the overall economy was bad... think about that for a minute too.

What has Trump said he said he'll do, other than tariffs (which will be burden)? What would he have done to prevent inflation?

Economically, i think anyone could've beaten the incumbent since the masses don't understand inflation and economics. The immigration and crime rhetoric obviously helps with the base. I don't see much LONGTERM changing regarding immigration, America needs it.
Well, the idea of never underestimating the stupidity of the masses is valid. Truth be told, but for that phenomenon, the incumbent would be ending his second term. Covid would have nailed anyone. The interesting aspect to me is that all they did was delay Trump's second term and instead of having to fight against a really weak incumbent in Pence as the automatic frontrunner, the future will be everyone running against JD. And if things go at all well, he will be formidable.
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