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Considering this election from a different POV- (not supportive of Trump or Hillary)

That was a really good blog/article. I think understand what he's trying to convey.

But, I do have one reservation. When he says "If you want CHANGE, you'll go with Trump." (paraphrased). Okay... yeah, you're likely to get CHANGE. But, I before I just open the "Change Door", I want to have some idea what's behind it, in the context of government and social policies.

And, to the blog in the OP: I haven't been listening to Hillary Clinton. I've been listening to Donald Trump! The bias and barrage of criticism he gets from media sources is not because they (the media) don't want to focus on issues. It's because Donald Trump never seems to realize that his "tell it like it is" approach is actually telling it like HE THINKS it is, and he does it in such an inflammatory, self-aggrandizing way, that it screams to be criticized.

The media makes a profit by amplifying what's getting attention! Trump gets attention, but he doesn't do it in a manner that will benefit his campaign. I don't hear any policy details. I never hear how he's going to implement any of these things (some of which I'd like to see happen- Marijuana legalization, for one). I liked Obama's promise to close Guantanamo... never happened. But, back to trump; From a political perspective, all I really hear is building a wall/keep illegals out, vetting Muslims, the election is rigged, and Hillary is crooked. All of this is just talk, too. And, it's talk from a guy that has alienated himself from people he'll need to get any of it done. He claims to oppose the TPP. That's great! But, it takes more than his opposition to it to keep it from being implemented. He's basically detached himself from the government structure we have in place. He's now neither party... awesome. He revels in that. I respect being neither party. But, unless he's planning to stage a coup, it's not going to go well for him or anyone who is supporting him. Presently, we still have 3 branches of government. The legislative branch basically has no interest in him, and he has none for them. That's not going to work! When he exhibits that he lacks basic understanding of how our government works, he's going to be criticized and rightfully so.
 
That was a really good blog/article. I think understand what he's trying to convey.

But, I do have one reservation. When he says "If you want CHANGE, you'll go with Trump." (paraphrased). Okay... yeah, you're likely to get CHANGE. But, I before I just open the "Change Door", I want to have some idea what's behind it, in the context of government and social policies.

And, to the blog in the OP: I haven't been listening to Hillary Clinton. I've been listening to Donald Trump! The bias and barrage of criticism he gets from media sources is not because they (the media) don't want to focus on issues. It's because Donald Trump never seems to realize that his "tell it like it is" approach is actually telling it like HE THINKS it is, and he does it in such an inflammatory, self-aggrandizing way, that it screams to be criticized.

The media makes a profit by amplifying what's getting attention! Trump gets attention, but he doesn't do it in a manner that will benefit his campaign. I don't hear any policy details. I never hear how he's going to implement any of these things (some of which I'd like to see happen- Marijuana legalization, for one). I liked Obama's promise to close Guantanamo... never happened. But, back to trump; From a political perspective, all I really hear is building a wall/keep illegals out, vetting Muslims, the election is rigged, and Hillary is crooked. All of this is just talk, too. And, it's talk from a guy that has alienated himself from people he'll need to get any of it done. He claims to oppose the TPP. That's great! But, it takes more than his opposition to it to keep it from being implemented. He's basically detached himself from the government structure we have in place. He's now neither party... awesome. He revels in that. I respect being neither party. But, unless he's planning to stage a coup, it's not going to go well for him or anyone who is supporting him. Presently, we still have 3 branches of government. The legislative branch basically has no interest in him, and he has none for them. That's not going to work! When he exhibits that he lacks basic understanding of how our government works, he's going to be criticized and rightfully so.
What has she proposed other than more of the same? Obama has done his best to operate without the 3 branches of government. You really think she can get anything done? He obviously has done a lot of negotiating in his business life. What has Hillary negotiated or touched for that matter that has worked out for the better?
 
What has she proposed other than more of the same? Obama has done his best to operate without the 3 branches of government. You really think she can get anything done? He obviously has done a lot of negotiating in his business life. What has Hillary negotiated or touched for that matter that has worked out for the better?
I'm sure buried in those emails there are plenty of things she negotiated that were better for HER, so since Trump has done well negotiating for himself, I'd say they might be equal.
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What has she proposed other than more of the same? Obama has done his best to operate without the 3 branches of government. You really think she can get anything done? He obviously has done a lot of negotiating in his business life. What has Hillary negotiated or touched for that matter that has worked out for the better?
I'm not talking about her. I said in my post: "I haven't been listening to Hillary Clinton. I've been listening to Donald Trump." That was the only time I mentioned, or referred to her, in my entire post. We're talking about Donald Trump here, right?
 
I'm not talking about her. I said in my post: "I haven't been listening to Hillary Clinton. I've been listening to Donald Trump." We're talking about Donald Trump here, right?
Seems to me we have two choices for President. Granted there are others but they stand no chance.
 
Maybe so but I think they both are the worst choices we could ever have and in my eyes equally bad even though they do different bad things.

They both love power and money, both lie, both cheat, both only care about what is good for themselves. I cannot support either. Sorry.
One of them will be president, but hey, Delta is ready when you are.
 
That was a really good blog/article. I think understand what he's trying to convey.

But, I do have one reservation. When he says "If you want CHANGE, you'll go with Trump." (paraphrased). Okay... yeah, you're likely to get CHANGE. But, I before I just open the "Change Door", I want to have some idea what's behind it, in the context of government and social policies.

He has put forth several policy initiatives.

And, to the blog in the OP: I haven't been listening to Hillary Clinton. I've been listening to Donald Trump! The bias and barrage of criticism he gets from media sources is not because they (the media) don't want to focus on issues. It's because Donald Trump never seems to realize that his "tell it like it is" approach is actually telling it like HE THINKS it is, and he does it in such an inflammatory, self-aggrandizing way, that it screams to be criticized.

No, you have been listening to what you have been spoon fed. Did you even know Trump proposed term limits or marijuana legalization? Have you watched one of his policy speeches? If so, which one?

The media makes a profit by amplifying what's getting attention!

Wrong. The media makes a profit from advertising- that's it. Have you noticed that viewers and readers are dropping from traditional media outlets? As a response the media has decided to go all in for the Clintons as that will at least get them access, something they know they will not get from Trump.

I don't hear any policy details. I never hear how he's going to implement any of these things (some of which I'd like to see happen- Marijuana legalization, for one). I liked Obama's promise to close Guantanamo... never happened. But, back to trump; From a political perspective, all I really hear is building a wall/keep illegals out, vetting Muslims, the election is rigged, and Hillary is crooked.

Of course that is all you hear. You have to look to find more information, because you can rest assured that you will not get Trump policy from the usual sources.

But, unless he's planning to stage a coup, it's not going to go well for him or anyone who is supporting him. Presently, we still have 3 branches of government. The legislative branch basically has no interest in him, and he has none for them. That's not going to work! When he exhibits that he lacks basic understanding of how our government works, he's going to be criticized and rightfully so.

He is staging a coup. And if congress doesn't go along with him, they will be replaced too. The voters haven't approved of the direction of the country since 2008 and replaced Congress in 2010. The reason Trump is here now is because the voters don't approve of Congresses failure to deliver on their mandate, which was to keep Obama from accomplishing anything. Watch and see what happens if they try to fight Trump.
 
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He has put forth several policy initiatives.



No, you have been listening to what you have been spoon fed. Did you even know Trump proposed term limits or marijuana legalization? Have you watched one of his policy speeches? If so, which one?
I'll try to respond to the others later, but I wanted to address the term-limits proposal before and forgot about it. I think that would be awesome. I think it would help get some of the corporate control out of government... for a while, until they figure a way around that.

Admittedly, no, I have not watched one of his "policy speeches." But, I will if you can recommend one.

But, again, if the other mechanisms don't cooperate, it can't become law. Now, I will concede that public opinion has the power of persuasion. You can vote-out incumbents in 2018 and get some people in there that might be willing to work for us and not those that own it.
 
In nearly every scenario you can imagine, the person experiencing an unlikely addition to their reality is the one hallucinating. If all observers see the same addition to their reality, it might be real. But if even one participant can’t see the phenomenon – no matter how many can – it is almost certainly not real.

Unless we're talking about god right?
 
I'll try to respond to the others later, but I wanted to address the term-limits proposal before and forgot about it. I think that would be awesome. I think it would help get some of the corporate control out of government... for a while, until they figure a way around that.

Admittedly, no, I have not watched one of his "policy speeches." But, I will if you can recommend one.

But, again, if the other mechanisms don't cooperate, it can't become law. Now, I will concede that public opinion has the power of persuasion. You can vote-out incumbents in 2018 and get some people in there that might be willing to work for us and not those that own it.
I am all for the term limits policy proposal. She does not want that. She's been in politics all her life. At least Trump has not made a living in politics and I'm all for someone who is not a career politician. Everyone of them come out much richer than they went in. Trump has made his $$$$$$. I am not a fan of some of his antics but I believe he is in it for the right reasons unlike Hildabeast who has been running for president for 30 years.
 
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Immigration, Terrorism, National debt etc. I think he sees it as a challenge to try and fix these things.
I don't, but I'm sure you do. I think he's in it for the attention but I respect your opinion and hope you respect mine.
 
I don't, but I'm sure you do. I think he's in it for the attention but I respect your opinion and hope you respect mine.
I'm not so sure we both aren't right. No doubt in my mind the man loves attention. But I think he loves a challenge as well
 
Immigration, Terrorism, National debt etc. I think he sees it as a challenge to try and fix these things.

He wants to make the country a better place- I'm not even sure he went after it because it's a challenge.
 
You bring up a very good point. What are his reasons for getting in?
That was to be my response, too.

I honestly just do NOT trust the man at all. I'm TRYING to be open on some level since he has managed to garner so much support... and Hillary Clinton is hardly my ideal candidate.
 
I don't, but I'm sure you do. I think he's in it for the attention but I respect your opinion and hope you respect mine.

I respect you but think your opinion is wrong. It's easy for a guy like Trump to get all the attention he craves- he doesn't need this shit.
 
That was to be my response, too.

I honestly just do NOT trust the man at all. I'm TRYING to be open on some level since he has managed to garner so much support... and Hillary Clinton is hardly my ideal candidate.

What don't you trust?
 
I respect you but think your opinion is wrong. It's easy for a guy like Trump to get all the attention he craves- he doesn't need this shit.
No, I think that is one of his many problems, he does "need this shit" and he needs it in a way that is bad for the country. Everything that has been said bad about Clinton is true but your guy is just too far out there and too big of a risk.
 
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No, I think that is one of his many problems, he does "need this shit" and he needs it in a way that is bad for the country. Everything that has been said bad about Clinton is true but your guy is just too far out there and too big of a risk.
I think he needs attention as well but I also think he needs a challenge. Most very successful people love a challenge.
 
I think he needs attention as well but I also think he needs a challenge. Most very successful people love a challenge.
I haven't seen anything that would show he has been successful in anything. The only thing any of us can go by is his long history of failed businesses.
 
What don't you trust?
Just his entire persona. His whole presence has very selfish vibe to me.

I used to watch/listen to Howard Stern a lot. When I couldn't get his radio show anymore, I watched the E! show a lot. Trump would come on there fairly regularly and make comments about whatever was going on. And, that persona is what I grew to know and expect. It wasn't "good" or "bad", necessarily, just... Donald Trump. He'd call-in and give his 2 cents about what was going on. Howard Stern is hardly an intellectual's mainstay. It was comedy and extreme gags... I liked that! But, he (Trump) was never someone that ever exhibited any insight that I could empathize with.

I never took him serious. He's always been sort of an inside joke, I guess. He's like an entertainment icon. He thinks he's amazing, but no one takes him seriously. He does have things that he knows how to do well. He has his "zone" for sure. He markets well. I don't mean that he is vapid, like, say, the Kardashians. But, he's not many rungs above that!
 
Immigration, Terrorism, National debt etc. I think he sees it as a challenge to try and fix these things.
I can agree with that. I believe he sees those things as a challenge and he wants to try and fix those. That, I will give you. I don't think I'd agree with how he would deal with 2 out of the 3, however.
 
Just his entire persona. His whole presence has very selfish vibe to me.

I used to watch/listen to Howard Stern a lot. When I couldn't get his radio show anymore, I watched the E! show a lot. Trump would come on there fairly regularly and make comments about whatever was going on. And, that persona is what I grew to know and expect. It wasn't "good" or "bad", necessarily, just... Donald Trump. He'd call-in and give his 2 cents about what was going on. Howard Stern is hardly an intellectual's mainstay. It was comedy and extreme gags... I liked that! But, he was never someone that ever exhibited any insight that I could empathize with.

I never took him serious. He's always been sort of an inside joke, I guess. He's like an entertainment icon. He thinks he's amazing, but no one takes him seriously. He does have things that he knows how to do well. He has his "zone" for sure. He markets well. I don't mean that he is vapid, like, say, the Kardashians. But, he's not many rungs above that!

Well these guys have hope at least when Trump loses. I hear Kanye is running against Hillary next time.
 
Pretty sure his wealth surpasses anyone's on this board.
No one on this board is running for president and leader of the free world. Don't take me wrong I respect your opinion and I'm not trying to change you opinion.
 
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