Well, I think that's just a testament to how far and much covid has mutated into a much less deadly virus. It also provides an interesting framework as to the continued claims of things like teacher unions wanting to perform their jobs remotely or universal mask requirements. The ball is going to continue to move.
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If people will simply think this through, any reasonably educated person can see the vaccines were never intended to stop the spread of Covid or help people in anyway at all.
1. The mRNA vaccines, by their proponents own claims, direct someone's DNA to produce the spike protein closely matching the first Covid strain.
2. The spike protein is a well-known toxin and pathogenic protein. So the vaccine was designed to tell your body to poison itself.
3. Coronaviruses are known to mutate and particularly in the spike protein area. Therefore, the vaccine was designed to mistrain the immune system (as well as damage it) through a well-known process called Original Antigenemic Sin. The body will try to fight a virus in the way it first did, and so by training it to focus on the spike protein, the body becomes more susceptible to all future variants of Covid. That's by design.
4. We were all lied to when the CDC and others claimed if one takes the vaccine, they would not get Covid except in rare cases. They backed off that lie when it was so obviously untrue and then claimed it was never designed to prevent Covid, but just to protect against severe disease. That is just another lie and there is no explanation how in the world filling people with spike protein protects from death and more serious disease. It can't. It's a toxin.
5. The vaccines contain PEGs like luciferase, which are toxic, and a lot of undisclosed material protected as "trade secrets." They are toxic as well. Researchers all over the world have found varying degrees of graphene oxide, for example, and the blood clots appear to not just be blood but consist of some sort of self-replicating nano-particles that clog up the arteries.
6. There was absolutely nothing in the science to suggest anything about these vaccines would work, and of course they haven't. They were not designed with any mechanism to confer long-term immunity and appear to be designed to spread Covid more intensely, both the initial variant but also make people more susceptible for future variants.
1. The mRNA vaccines, by their proponents own claims, direct someone's DNA to produce the spike protein closely matching the first Covid strain.
2. The spike protein is a well-known toxin and pathogenic protein. So the vaccine was designed to tell your body to poison itself.
3. Coronaviruses are known to mutate and particularly in the spike protein area. Therefore, the vaccine was designed to mistrain the immune system (as well as damage it) through a well-known process called Original Antigenemic Sin. The body will try to fight a virus in the way it first did, and so by training it to focus on the spike protein, the body becomes more susceptible to all future variants of Covid. That's by design.
4. We were all lied to when the CDC and others claimed if one takes the vaccine, they would not get Covid except in rare cases. They backed off that lie when it was so obviously untrue and then claimed it was never designed to prevent Covid, but just to protect against severe disease. That is just another lie and there is no explanation how in the world filling people with spike protein protects from death and more serious disease. It can't. It's a toxin.
5. The vaccines contain PEGs like luciferase, which are toxic, and a lot of undisclosed material protected as "trade secrets." They are toxic as well. Researchers all over the world have found varying degrees of graphene oxide, for example, and the blood clots appear to not just be blood but consist of some sort of self-replicating nano-particles that clog up the arteries.
6. There was absolutely nothing in the science to suggest anything about these vaccines would work, and of course they haven't. They were not designed with any mechanism to confer long-term immunity and appear to be designed to spread Covid more intensely, both the initial variant but also make people more susceptible for future variants.
You just can't accept that Trump lost the election can you?. It's a shame. If he had won, you'd be on here telling everybody to get vaccinated because president Trump who was reelected because of his amazing covid response team and attitude, save the day by warp speeding the vaccines. They're perfectly safe and help prevent the disease.
But, he lost, because of the covid-19 pandemic, and his crappy response to it. And so now it's necessary to come up with every, Looney ass conspiracy to make the vaccines a hoax, just like the disease itself was a hoax. Youre nuttier than Chinese chicken salad
Liar, per usual.
Trump did push the vaccines and yet the group most warning about the vaccines and not taking them were Trump supporters. When Covid first came out, I was against the push for vaccines because it was an obvious ploy to experiment on populations with mRNA and a suite of technologies. Never had anything to do with stopping Covid. It was never about that and it's proven now.
Trump got snookered. I'll still vote for him because otherwise he was a great president except he also trusted a lot of other bad actors in government.
They are not safe, and that's a proven fact. My point we can debate whether they were never intended to be safe. I think the facts conclusively show they were not.
@bleeduncblue has a good understanding of all this as his wife is in the healthcare biz. I think she might even be one that develops vaccines and such. I’d like to read his thoughts. What’s up Bleed?
Agreed. But teacher unions (for example) in Denmark are a much more healthy cohort than those in the US. I had a long weekend in Denmark once, and like all those wealthy Scandinavian countries the people just look fit & healthy. Upon return, stepping off the plane back at the American airport, I saw lots of people who looked like they were trying-out for weight-loss reality tv.
I can’t get my head around it because it’s the stupidest, most ignorant, asinine description of what being illegal is I have ever heard in my life. “It’s not offered therefore it is illegal”. Bahahahahahaha!!!! This bizarre desperation to try and rationalize your idiotic take on this is quite entertaining though. Please keep going. But you still have to pay up bitch.
This is the guy who thinks Qanon op Ed pieces is proof
so please please PLEASE tell us what they were “truly” intended for. Please. And be sure to pass along your qualifications to enable you to second guess the worlds top immunologists as well.
All of the data, both the data that's been released that was withheld from the very beginning, V-safe, data from numerous nations, every single piece of data shows this. It's proven.
Why do you think we have seen such a dramatic increase in all-cause mortality with teens and healthy young people dropping dead or disabled from heart disease?
Exactly! Thank you! It’s not “illegal” or “banned”. They’re just reacting to the science and the data for their demographic. Why offer it when the info suggests it doesn’t help. Seems simple.
The world's top immunologists denounced the vaccine, at least for the vast majority of people not at high risk a long time ago.
Fauci isn't one of them. Perhaps that's your mistake? Believing government bureaucrats are top scientists.
show your work or it’ll be marked wrong…is that easier to understand?
Ahh yes demonize fauci. Blame fauci. Lol. So you’re saying fauci isn’t a world renowned immunologist? That he’s a “bureaucrat” in on the conspiracy to control us? Of course you do. So tell us his “real” role in this. And we still wanna hear what the vaccine is “truly” designed for. Come on let’s hear it.
LOL. That sounds like the opening line of a great story. Reminds me of "I never thought it would happen to me, but . . . . ."
I agree and the people don’t mind telling you how much better they live than you. Denmark deserves more than a long weekend.
Just to be clear, I'm not saying it is or it isn't. I'm saying we don't know from what we've read. The official website or media reports are not the final word (unless they include a link or reference to the actual Danish government publication of the use allowances). One of the issues may simply be that they issued it and no one translated it to English. Once that is reviewed, we'll be able to see what has been authorized and what has been prohibited. It's likely that there are some exceptions built in because that's how they like to weasel word it all.
So, while I know how I'd rule if given the power to decide based on our limited information, it's clear that neither you or @heelmanwilm are going to concede (nor should you necessarily). How about I propose a solution? Instead of declaring a winner and one of you temporarily changing your avatar, how about you each get to pick one for the other (and that's even with my love of the Kirk one in use currently)? We'll put a constraint on it that it can't be anything involving State or dook. Put the argument to bed and let's focus on hating each other just like the rest of the country.
Fauci manages over 6 billion directly annually and is a key, if not the most key player, controlling and directing over 60 billion. No, he is not a world renowned immunologist. That's just BS. He's not really a working scientist and hasn't been for a very long time.
He's a manager, a bureaucrat, and corrupt as all get out. Has been for decades, which is how he's managed to stay in that position for so long.
Btw, have you gotten your booster or boosters? Just curious. Same with others here like Strum?
We've had this discussion before about the gameplay of "statistics" when you love to go after "Trump counties". What makes a "Trump county"? Votes were 5000 for Trump to 4999 for Biden for instance? That would fit your word play, but would have no significance whatsoever. More importantly, of the people who died, how is the statistic controlling for or determining that the deceased actually voted for Trump? In other words, it could be a "Trump County", but a majority of those that died were Biden voters or it could be people who didn't even vote.
owning the libs, even rejecting paxlovid.
Lastly, and perhaps most glaring of all, it is sadistically hilarious that you post a graph with stats trying to attack presumed Trump voters who died from covid when something like 2/3's of those fatalities occurred when Trump had his butt in Mar-a-Lago (before the two significant "advancements" noted on the graph) and the man who was going to end the pandemic was fully in charge.
Negative efficacy means getting the jab and booster increases one's risk of contracting Covid, serious illness and death from Covid.
" The Boosted are at a greater health risk than the unvaccinated, which also means they are a more expensive health risk for insurers. And not just for persistent illness. As we’ve also reported (one example), the post-vaccine world is wrestling with sudden adult death syndrome. I am referring to the 40% plus or minus spike in deaths among otherwise healthy adults in the wake of a massive global push to inject experimental pharmaceuticals into people."
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" Negative efficacy galore: Imagine engaging in societal apartheid and persecuting those who didn’t get the jabs on the assumption that they are spreaders of disease but then discovering that, in fact, the opposite is true? I’ve been reporting on negative efficacy for over a year already, but now we have a Kaiser Permanganate study that shows negative efficacy of the shots against all variants within 150 days. And this study shows the more you inject, the more you infect; specifically, over time, those with three doses fare worse than those with two."
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Horowitz: 5 shocking new studies and data points that nuke the COVID shots
“In summary, we have highlighted the pitfalls of having considered until now COVID-19 mRNA vaccines as just conventional vaccines, and we have indicated the preclinical, clinical and post-marketing safety assessments that are most urgently needed. COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are actually...
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" Even more telling is the fact that 81% of the deaths were among those who had three or more doses, even though those individuals only account for 34% of the population."
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Horowitz: 5 shocking new studies and data points that nuke the COVID shots
“In summary, we have highlighted the pitfalls of having considered until now COVID-19 mRNA vaccines as just conventional vaccines, and we have indicated the preclinical, clinical and post-marketing safety assessments that are most urgently needed. COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are actually...
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He said show "your work" not the work of crazy-ass MAGA squirrel-turd propaganda sites that feed your confirmation bias and paranoia." Even more telling is the fact that 81% of the deaths were among those who had three or more doses, even though those individuals only account for 34% of the population."
Horowitz: 5 shocking new studies and data points that nuke the COVID shots
“In summary, we have highlighted the pitfalls of having considered until now COVID-19 mRNA vaccines as just conventional vaccines, and we have indicated the preclinical, clinical and post-marketing safety assessments that are most urgently needed. COVID-19 mRNA vaccines are actually...
Well, that is kind of your work. It's obviously consuming your life, so... I'll give you a pass. Crazy as ever, and afraid of everything.
See those five shades of colors with percentages? Those are percentages of vote. C'mon man, at least try.
It isn't. You can only correlate, you can't pinpoint causation. But the correlation has pretty stark nums to call this a random coincidence.
You'll try on almost any theory to deny that Trump voters are putting themselves at harm by denying the vaccine.
Biden didn't prevent those people from saving themselves via vaccine.
It is when absorbed through the filter of crazy ultra-MAGA some such... abso-fvcking-lutely.
And conversely, you'll try to connect anything to Orange Man Bad despite any proof. When people speak of TDS, this is exactly what they're talking about.
Honestly missed that, so thanks for giving me the paint by numbers (we all can be stupid at moments). But the overall point I was making is still valid. It could be a county that voted 900 for orange and 100 for Biden so it would be a 90% Trump County. Problem is there might be another 3000 who didn't even vote, making it in reality no ones' county.
But therein lies the problem. You've got to establish causation with almost anything before the correlation is validated because it well may be due to other, unaccounted for reasons.
The other thing I hadn't noticed before but you made me go back and look at the graph, lol, was the stark contrast in the beginning with the spikes versus the reverse split later as they reverse. I'm guessing that this has more to do with the numbers behind where people live and how the disease was passed. Initially, urban and dense areas, including the elderly & nursing homes, would have been where things spread. Later, it continued its spread in more rural areas. The whole issue of natural immunity starts to kick in. I would also guess the former are Biden counties and the later are Trump counties.
I am no math guy and certainly not a statistic's guy. I've just got to believe there is more to this than who a person voted for and it's not as simple as your graph wants to portray it. And ultimately, what was the point? Why are we still talking about orangeman? Joe was gonna solve all this. Why do I still see people wearing masks?
Again, you are assuming those dying are actual Trump voters. Further, the death rate for the current variant is way, way down. Unless you are one of the few remaining who are of a certain age, who have conditions that make it much more complicated, or who haven't already died, there really isn't a huge argument anymore that those people need the vax.
If a person is an otherwise healthy 35 years old, who happened to vote for Trump, how are they putting themselves at risk? What is the death rate for those individuals at this point? How does the virus know who they voted for, let alone if they voted?
But we know that on average more than half the country votes - some states are upper 70%, others closer to 60.
Perhaps in your scenario you are saying a big 40% no-show demographic could make the county look red or blue incorrectly. But for that to be the case the entire chunk would have to be on particular side... Dem turnout isn't as good as Repub, but not that drastically different.
Fair points
Immunity is immunity whether natural or via vaccine. Studies show immunity wanes regardless of how you got that immunity. Studies do NOT show extra protection from "natural" immunity though apparently the "waning" part can change - but... boosters offset.
Plus plenty of people have gotten the vaccine AND become infected due to wane or variants, etc.
So i'm not sure how "natural" could be much of a factor to ponder.
People who vote for Trump have been reluctant to vaccinate and have been reluctant to take paxlovid, hence more severity/death.
As you see in the graph, the number is ticking up at higher rates in red than blue, likely because Repubs are rejecting paxlovid. Despite the latest variants being less deadly, they are still deadly to people getting old, getting sick, getting obese, etc.
I would argue and concede that there is a goodly chunk of people who would break towards Trump that are more likely to be anti vax, but I think the issue isn't limited to covid. They are going to be generally distrustful of government, distrustful of healthcare in general, and probably have a much, much higher rate of co-conditions and health issues. They also are probably going to seek out help much later in the disease process and blunt the effectiveness of any antiviral even if they would accept it.
At least to my understanding, it doesn't help that the latest booster has been released and pushed out without any real numbers behind any big studies and is largely based on theory regarding its effectiveness and need.
Like your post and thought I'd add:
" This analysis found that there is an 84% increase in the relative incidence of cardiac-related death among males 18-39 years old within 28 days following mRNA vaccination."
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You need to compare deaths caused by the vaccines themselves to have any real handle on the issue in these comparisons. You may not believe it but the vaccines are killing far more people than Covid and killing young, healthy people as well.
" Any medical expert with standard microscope equipment would have been able to observe these horrific abnormalities in the blood."
If you took the jab, you were poisoned.
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If you took the jab, you were poisoned.
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Covid was the little bioweapon. The Vax is the big one.
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"The mRNA Covid vaccines are killing people, plain and simple."... - Revolver News
An emboldened Alex Berenson is absolutely going off on the beastly jabs today... a major thorn in the side of the Great Reset Regime.
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re: the vaccines. the medical world panicked, which caused the politicians to panic (Fauci is a politician in this scenario). the rush to market was the only thing that mattered and many folks inside the drug development industry knew that lack of long term testing was a problem, but there was so much pressure on them from the medical/political fields, they essentially had to get it out there ... and now the post-vaxx data is revealing why long term, full drug testing is important.
what has spoke volumes to us is the huge number of employees in the drug development world who have declined to be vaccinated, even to the point of leaving their job over it. many of them are die hard liberals who would otherwise do anything a Democratic POTUS said to do, but they know too much about the mRNA stuff and lack of testing.
the vaxx clearly helps the elderly and at-risk not get as sick, but no one beyond that should have been asked to take it until long term testing had been done. i still cannot believe how many healthy people put that stuff in their bodies!
Thanks. Check this out (video).
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