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if you leave a “please only take one” sign prepare for the outrage.
I decided to go as something extra scary this year. . . a tourist.
Not that I agree with the approach, but I get your point in terms of the idea that all credibility has been lost such that anything he posts is immediately scrubbed. Because @randman1 is the poster and is providing the linked sources, your theory is that one can simply and automatically discount even the possibility that his information is valid or reliable. However, that's a flawed line of thought because it's personal about him and not the topic he's posting about. For instance, to use your example, if @randman1 posted that the earth were in fact round and cited a source from Epoch reporting on a scientific study, under your theory you would immediately trash the posting and the source - and you'd be dead wrong.
Incidentally, you actually didn't answer any of my questions. You just again attacked @randman1 . There are one or two who I would have expected that response from (except it probably would have included the seemingly mandatory personal insult about my breath smelling similar to orange balls or something else equally inane), but it surprised me coming from you.
I didn't attack him. I just pointed out why people don't take him seriously. As far as your question about Hunter's laptop, I don't know enough about, nor care enough about, his laptop to form an opinion or reply to that question. That's why I left it out of my response.
Attacked is hilarious! No one is "attacking" the nutjob. He loads this thread with one wacky-ass story after another, from the most notoriously extreme-right, loony sources and... somehow, you wonder why he gets mocked. If you wanna jump on the wacky wagon, just do it. It's been fun to watch how the rest of the "conservatives" will let themselves go straight down the rabbit-holes with him. It just shows how people will believe anything if they need to, in order to validate their own bias.
It's because he and so many others of the same mentality are intellectually pure trash. It doesn't matter to them what is true or not. All conservatives are automatically wrong and their Party's Narrative is always right.
The fact the entire media continually lies as we saw with the Hunter laptop situation being sold as Russian disinformation means absolutely nothing to them. Doesn't even dint their thinking. It's really not about me, or Trump, or a very credible news source like Epoch or whomever.
It's about the fact objective reality and truth no longer exist for them, at least concerning politics. If the Narrative said 2 plus 2 =5, then that's what they will say with their continual Pavlovian babel.
Everything, every fact, every news source, even if things provably true like Hunter's laptop, are mere wacko things if they do not comport to their Narrative. They are basically part of a cult and yet laughabiy think sane and objective people are the weirdos.
They also imagine they are in the majority when that is not the case. Most Americans disagree with their beliefs.
Here's an example of what I am talking about. These guys castigate someone like the following as a wacko and that Fauci is some sort of elite scientist rather than a politician.
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John Ioannidis is one of the nation’s leading public health experts, employed at Stanford University as Professor of Medicine in Stanford Prevention Research, of Epidemiology and Population Health,” as well as “of Statistics and Biomedical Data Science.”
You’d think that those impeccable qualifications and a track record of being one of the most published and cited scientists in the modern world would insulate him from criticism, but unfortunately that’s no longer how The Science™ works."
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- Ages 60-69, fatality rate 0.501%, survival rate 99.499%
- Ages 50-59, fatality rate 0.129%, survival rate 99.871%
- Ages 40-49, fatality rate 0.035% survival rate 99.965%
- Ages 30-39, fatality rate 0.011%, survival rate 99.989%
- Ages 20-29, fatality rate 0.003%, survival rate 99.997%
- Ages 0-19, fatality rate 0.0003%, survival rate 99.9997%"
A Closer Look at the Covid Mortality Rate ⋆ Brownstone Institute
Their estimates were hopelessly, catastrophically wrong, yet they maintained their unchallenged sense of authority for multiple years
brownstone.org
we turned our world upside down because of dem fear-mongering and we are still paying the price and will for quite some time. But orange man bad.Here's an example of what I am talking about. These guys castigate someone like the following as a wacko and that Fauci is some sort of elite scientist rather than a politician.
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John Ioannidis is one of the nation’s leading public health experts, employed at Stanford University as Professor of Medicine in Stanford Prevention Research, of Epidemiology and Population Health,” as well as “of Statistics and Biomedical Data Science.”
You’d think that those impeccable qualifications and a track record of being one of the most published and cited scientists in the modern world would insulate him from criticism, but unfortunately that’s no longer how The Science™ works."
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- Ages 60-69, fatality rate 0.501%, survival rate 99.499%
- Ages 50-59, fatality rate 0.129%, survival rate 99.871%
- Ages 40-49, fatality rate 0.035% survival rate 99.965%
- Ages 30-39, fatality rate 0.011%, survival rate 99.989%
- Ages 20-29, fatality rate 0.003%, survival rate 99.997%
- Ages 0-19, fatality rate 0.0003%, survival rate 99.9997%"
A Closer Look at the Covid Mortality Rate ⋆ Brownstone Institute
Their estimates were hopelessly, catastrophically wrong, yet they maintained their unchallenged sense of authority for multiple years
But somehow in the middle of the pandemic, they could take a break and burn down neighborhoods and loot some stores, just peacefully protesting, Not wearing masks either.
Makes me wonder exactly what was going on with all the people who backed both BLM riots and the lockdowns, mask wearing, etc,.... One common theme is both entailed destroying people's livelihoods and businesses.
Of course, the other is mindless obedience to the media and Covidians but you just wonder if the bottom line is the Left hates this country so much (and for many, perhaps themselves), they are willing to destroy it by any means possible?
Another thing, @pooponduke. He also loses credibility when he calls everyone who doesn't agree with him a liberal. That's just dumb. I've never once been confused with a liberal and my posting history backs that up. But God forbid someone disagree with his crazy world. That just isn't acceptable.
You echo a lot of dem media talking points and so yeah, it can be easy to mistake you for a liberal, although I've been using the term "groomer" much more lately considering the demoncat's obsession with bringing small children to drag shows, providing them with obscene materials, teaching them sexual stuff that's age inappropriate, fostering gender confusion, etc,....
But I don't recall you supporting those things. Considering your hostility and pretending it's wacko to be against such things, perhaps you do?
You did express hostility towards either Ultra-Maga or Maga types and so forth. My guess is you don't like Trump?
On this thread, you contribute near next to nothing. No real facts or argument.
And I call BS on your response to the laptop since it's been discussed quite thoroughly right here, and protecting the Big Guy and his crimes from both prosecution and before the election means the election was stolen on that basis alone, and that a criminal faction runs our government.
Ultra-Maga stems from Biden in one of his speeches if you can call it that.So, there's MAGA... and, then there's Ultra-MAGA???
It's just typical inanity from democrats to try to act like Trump supporters are extremist when it's they that are.
Unconscionable.
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We're not grooming children; nor trying to kill American energy; opening the border to the cartels; nor trying to kill the economy with massive money printing.
MAGA is not extreme. Wokeness is.
"When you lock children out of school, there are going to be irreparable consequences – especially for our most vulnerable students. But power-hungry bureaucrats like Fauci weren’t worried about that. They thought nothing about sacrificing the future of our children for their political agenda," argued DeSantis, calling on voters to reject the "COVID theater."
floridianpress.com
DeSantis Says Fauci's 'Gaslighting' the Country
As Fauci readies himself for retirement, DeSantis warns that Fauci is "gaslighting" the country.
floridianpress.com
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That final comment is an odd one coming from Kristian Andersen.
During the earliest stage of the COVID-19 pandemic on January 31, 2020, Andersen wrote an email to Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases saying that the COVID-19 virus had “unusual features,” “looked engineered” and had a “genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory.”
They all know it came from a lab because the evidence is overwhelming and some of these people were involved in creating Covid in the first place.
It's not a leak either. It's intentional.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
That final comment is an odd one coming from Kristian Andersen.
During the earliest stage of the COVID-19 pandemic on January 31, 2020, Andersen wrote an email to Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases saying that the COVID-19 virus had “unusual features,” “looked engineered” and had a “genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory.”
They all know it came from a lab because the evidence is overwhelming and some of these people were involved in creating Covid in the first place.
It's not a leak either. It's intentional.
The Shocking Facts About the Continuing Cover-up of COVID-19’s Laboratory Origin by the U.S. Government and Colluding Scientists | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft
The shocking facts about the continuing cover-up of COVID-19’s laboratory origin by the U.S.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Patients died from COVID-19 drug treatment at Redlands, Riverside hospitals, suits allege
Although the manufacturer of remdesivir insists the drug is safe, two women allege their healthy husbands suffered organ failure and died after it was administered to them.
www.ocregister.com
But you did and that's all you've done in responding to my inquiry. I didn't ask a single question about Hunter's laptop so any reference to it is a misdirection and an avoidance of the actual questions. The laptop inclusion was simply to provide a clear-cut example of how the media got it wrong (whether due to bias, intentional, by design, or incompetence is irrelevant). It's indisputable at this point, yet, we've had the msm consistently tell us there was nothing to see there, it was russian disinformation. This now confirmed bias tells us that all sources are to be questioned and/or challenged.
I agree that it's of little value to paint everyone with a broad brush. Your past posting has revealed your insight on things and it was one reason I was surprised by your attack on him and the complete manipulation of my questions. I'll restate the topics for anyone who cares to take a swing.
What alternatives to the typical msm sources does one find acceptable regardless of whether @randman1 or anyone else uses them?
The CDC has added the covid shot to the "immunization" requirements for kids (something the numbers show is totally, utterly unnecessary). Many jurisdictions use this list as the prerequisite for being able to attend school. Attending school: required by law. Thus, in essence, the CDC is now, through the backdoor, legally requiring our kids to take a completely unnecessary shot. This has gotten almost no mention here - in a thread about coronavirus. How can this not be subject to any push back (and it's not ok to simply say because @randman1 posted the original link to the CDC vote)?
We're just going to have to disagree about me attacking him. I think you're just misinterpreting what I was saying or trying to say. As far as where to look for media, it's not really the media you look for. It's the sources they use. A source could be a person, study, poll, etc. It's easy to find ones that are legit if you look. Then you can just see if that source is being misrepresented.
Well, perhaps we are just characterizing it differently. All good.
The "source" is a factor for sure (and it makes me cringe about the dreaded "unnamed sources" articles they constantly parade out), but it's still a problem. Again, I'll refer to the laptop story. 70 or 80 intelligence "experts" signed off on that letter saying it was just russian bs. They should have known better or, worse, did know better. But, from a msm standpoint, they correctly cited the source and the source should have been reliable. Turns out it was crap - apparently all for election results in which they were all pulling for the same team. Thus, I can only conclude that:
We should question all reports from all sources. Which, ironically, means that @randman1 sources could theoretically be just as good or correct as anyone else. It's actually kind of sad because it puts us all in a constant state of not knowing who to trust.
Except that's clearly not what you do. You reject the original source material based on the media group reporting it, and so you seem to believe only primarily liberal democrat media outlets should be listened to; hence thinking you are a liberal. You act like one as the chief ways liberals debate is via censorship and demeaning the messenger. They generally cannot actually debate the facts.
You seem to fit the bill and label then because that's how you operate here.
I certainly can't tell you what media to believe and if they are fair in their reporting. Obviously that's a personal decision. I don't think the main goal of any media outlet is to be unbias. The main goal is to make money, so you always have to question them. Some have a better relationship to the truth than others, but you can choose who you think that is.
indeed…was at topsail beach this past summer and saw “ultra-maga” tee shirts being worn.So, there's MAGA... and, then there's Ultra-MAGA???
was told that’s a north topsail kinda vibe haha
My recollection is that it was a term Biden's team (might have actually been attributed to him) came up with . . . I'd guess there was a focus group involved, lol. Whether that embodies Topsail is an unknown to me.
i’m sure of biden using the term…someone put it on a tee shirt and apparently it’s rather popular…maybe biden’s team haha.
You may be right. Marketing guys are always interesting. Who knew that Brandon would take off the way it did? Of course, I think you can find a t-shirt with virtually anything on it if you look hard enough.
I got my son a heat press for Christmas a few years ago. We make shirts all the time. He made a bunch of Let's Go Brandon shirts and sold them cheap to his friends.
One of my friends makes custom holsters out of kydex in one of his side businesses. Besides having holsters that fit me perfectly, one of the benefits is he has the equipment that facilitates custom shirts. I never know what he's going to have on. . . .
It was meant as a slur (dumb political marketing) but Trump voters liked it and started saying, yeah, we're Ultra-Maga as a way to mock the democrats, the media and Biden.
