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I did not see the game and this is the first notice of this that I have heard/seen. The fact that a MAJOR sports media outlet like SI has a big story on this does make the point however.

I looked at both videos..the first DOES look intentional and the second not as clear.

Oh well nothing will come of this. what is it the fifth trip this POS has intentionally made on opposing players in the last month and a half?? I am beginning to believe this LTCC hack cannot help himself. I am so looking forward to him getting his due in the D league, where this punk belongs


http://www.si.com/college-basketbal...son-allen-intentional-trip-yale-march-madness
 
Damn! When are they finally gonna do something with this Punk. Amazing!!!!
 
I mentioned this in another thread, but I seriously think vanilla whip has a mental issue where he just can't control himself. This behavior is not normal. But since the NCAA won't do anything about it, he's going to continue it, as his amazing coach obviously endorses this crap.
 
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I mentioned this in another thread, but I seriously think vanilla whip has a mental issue where he just can't control himself. This behavior is not normal. But since the NCAA won't do anything about it, he's going to continue it, as his amazing coach obviously endorses this crap.
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I think it is a habit he has had for years. Dude is just a punk ass chump, which is a shame because he has a nice game without it.

I'm glad though that he doesn't play for my team- I would get sick of trying to defend it.
 
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Dookies can't seriously defend that POS's actions.
We've had our share of head cases over the years but fortunately have not had to deal with punk-ass players that intentionally stomp on opponents chests, break their noses going for rebounds or intentionally trip players. Hell, I've never seen one of our guys give out a titty-twister for that matter either.
 
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Idk about anyone else but he would have gotten his ass whipped on the play ground back in the day for stuff like that.

It's hard to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one when he has done it so many times already.

What a punk bitch!
 
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keysersosay#1 said:
I did not see the game and this is the first notice of this that I have heard/seen. The fact that a MAJOR sports media outlet like SI has a big story on this does make the point however.

I looked at both videos..the first DOES look intentional and the second not as clear.

Oh well nothing will come of this. what is it the fifth trip this POS has intentionally made on opposing players in the last month and a half?? I am beginning to believe this LTCC hack cannot help himself. I am so looking forward to him getting his due in the D league, where this punk belongs


http://www.si.com/college-basketbal...son-allen-intentional-trip-yale-march-madness
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Was he called for a foul for either one?

Hopefully the refs will now be aware of this and keep and eye out for it. (I also recognize what I'm hoping for is an impossibility.)
 
You will note that in the first clip, the announcer VERY clearly says the word TRIP.

But hey punkson, according to the LTCCers is a "warrior" who plays with great "passion" and just is a "bad ass" Excuse me while I go puke:eek:

BTW I ventured over to DI( then took a VERY long shower to cleanse myself of the stench) and there is absolutely NOTHING about this on their board... ZERO. These dbags are so USED to this dirty punk and his punk ass act that this is just does NOT matter or register.
 
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You guys are losing it with the Grayson Derangement Syndrome -- and apparently CNNSI is just trying to drive up clicks by playing into that. I usually enjoy the back-and-forth notwithstanding the distinct allegiances. But, common. Not only do both of those plays look completely unintentional, I don't even think there was any contact on that first play. Grayson did exactly what he should have done on that play. He stunted on the driver to stop his penetration. If the driver had better balance / quickness, he'd have stopped, and kicked it out for a 3. But he tried to force his way through traffic and got lucky he didn't turn it over. That was a terrible play by a PG with mediocre athleticism. If the new standard is that we presume an intentional trip every time a driver makes an ill-advised attempt to maneuver through the teeth of the help defense, I'm pretty sure Grayson's been the "victim" of about 50 trips this season -- b/c he gets bodied to the ground all the time on his straightline drives. On that play posted above, the Yale guy wildly drove right into the teeth of multiple Duke guys who were providing help defense against that drive and didn't have the lateral quickness / balance to stop when the defense collapsed on him.

I'm not going to defend that play he made against Louisville. But this other stuff is just irrationale nonsense.
 
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You guys are losing it with the Grayson Derangement Syndrome -- and apparently CNNSI is just trying to drive up clicks by playing into that. I usually enjoy the back-and-forth notwithstanding the distinct allegiances. But, common. Not only do both of those plays look completely unintentional, I don't even think there was any contact on that first play. Grayson did exactly what he should have done on that play. He stunted on the driver to stop his penetration. If the driver had better balance / quickness, he'd have stopped, and kicked it out for a 3. But he tried to force his way through traffic and got lucky he didn't turn it over. That was a terrible play by a PG with mediocre athleticism. If the new standard is that we presume an intentional trip every time a driver makes an ill-advised attempt to maneuver through the teeth of the help defense, I'm pretty sure Grayson's been the "victim" of about 50 trips this season -- b/c he gets bodied to the ground all the time on his straightline drives. On that play posted above, the Yale guy wildly drove right into the teeth of multiple Duke guys who were providing help defense against that drive and didn't have the lateral quickness / balance to stop when the defense collapsed on him.

I'm not going to defend that play he made against Louisville. But this other stuff is just irrationale nonsense.
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Blah blah blah. It's impossible to see because you simply don't want to see it. Dude is a punk and plays like a lil b$tch. He flops around like a fish out of water when he's driving the lane so don't mistake that for what Grayson does on the other end. He sticks out a leg on purpose to try to trip opponents. He's done it tons and tons of times - some more blatant than others. Some SO blatant that even you and your Dook buddies must admit to. These are definitely not cases of "irrational nonsense" LMAO.
 
TarHeelMark said:
I mentioned this in another thread, but I seriously think vanilla whip has a mental issue where he just can't control himself. This behavior is not normal. But since the NCAA won't do anything about it, he's going to continue it, as his amazing coach obviously endorses this crap.
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He is a serial tripper. He needs to be committed.
 
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aah555 said:
You guys are losing it with the Grayson Derangement Syndrome -- and apparently CNNSI is just trying to drive up clicks by playing into that. I usually enjoy the back-and-forth notwithstanding the distinct allegiances. But, common. Not only do both of those plays look completely unintentional, I don't even think there was any contact on that first play. Grayson did exactly what he should have done on that play. He stunted on the driver to stop his penetration. If the driver had better balance / quickness, he'd have stopped, and kicked it out for a 3. But he tried to force his way through traffic and got lucky he didn't turn it over. That was a terrible play by a PG with mediocre athleticism. If the new standard is that we presume an intentional trip every time a driver makes an ill-advised attempt to maneuver through the teeth of the help defense, I'm pretty sure Grayson's been the "victim" of about 50 trips this season -- b/c he gets bodied to the ground all the time on his straightline drives. On that play posted above, the Yale guy wildly drove right into the teeth of multiple Duke guys who were providing help defense against that drive and didn't have the lateral quickness / balance to stop when the defense collapsed on him.

I'm not going to defend that play he made against Louisville. But this other stuff is just irrationale nonsense.
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bodied to the ground? Is that the same as falling down from NO contact?
 
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Its always some one else's fault eh. So, like poor old gerald henderthug ,HE , Punkson ,is the "victim". You "forgot" the FL State trip and the other one featured on this video. SI must be "irrational" too. THEY picked up on this... NOT US. This punks rep is growing worse and worse by the day, BUT he is one of YOURS, so the fraud that coaches him allows and promotes this and he has gotten away with it so far.


Why NOT continue to play the dirty ball that is taught at LTCC?? He will continue to play as the dirty punk he is until he gets more than a "letter of reprimand'.
 
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aah555 said:
You guys are losing it with the Grayson Derangement Syndrome -- and apparently CNNSI is just trying to drive up clicks by playing into that. I usually enjoy the back-and-forth notwithstanding the distinct allegiances. But, common. Not only do both of those plays look completely unintentional, I don't even think there was any contact on that first play. Grayson did exactly what he should have done on that play. He stunted on the driver to stop his penetration. If the driver had better balance / quickness, he'd have stopped, and kicked it out for a 3. But he tried to force his way through traffic and got lucky he didn't turn it over. That was a terrible play by a PG with mediocre athleticism. If the new standard is that we presume an intentional trip every time a driver makes an ill-advised attempt to maneuver through the teeth of the help defense, I'm pretty sure Grayson's been the "victim" of about 50 trips this season -- b/c he gets bodied to the ground all the time on his straightline drives. On that play posted above, the Yale guy wildly drove right into the teeth of multiple Duke guys who were providing help defense against that drive and didn't have the lateral quickness / balance to stop when the defense collapsed on him.

I'm not going to defend that play he made against Louisville. But this other stuff is just irrationale nonsense.
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Actually, there was contact on the play and the announcer called it as well.

And go ahead an find us and example of poor Allen being tripped. Double bonus if he whips his head like he was hit by Mike Tyson. Should be easy if he has been the "victim" of about 50 trips.

Or just suck it and go back under the rock from whence you came. Your choice- put up or shut up.
 
aah555 said:
You guys are losing it with the Grayson Derangement Syndrome -- and apparently CNNSI is just trying to drive up clicks by playing into that. I usually enjoy the back-and-forth notwithstanding the distinct allegiances. But, common. Not only do both of those plays look completely unintentional, I don't even think there was any contact on that first play. Grayson did exactly what he should have done on that play. He stunted on the driver to stop his penetration. If the driver had better balance / quickness, he'd have stopped, and kicked it out for a 3. But he tried to force his way through traffic and got lucky he didn't turn it over. That was a terrible play by a PG with mediocre athleticism. If the new standard is that we presume an intentional trip every time a driver makes an ill-advised attempt to maneuver through the teeth of the help defense, I'm pretty sure Grayson's been the "victim" of about 50 trips this season -- b/c he gets bodied to the ground all the time on his straightline drives. On that play posted above, the Yale guy wildly drove right into the teeth of multiple Duke guys who were providing help defense against that drive and didn't have the lateral quickness / balance to stop when the defense collapsed on him.

I'm not going to defend that play he made against Louisville. But this other stuff is just irrationale nonsense.
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The first one is clearly intentional, unless of course you have on dook blue glasses, the 2nd one I didn't see much, but I too am starting to wonder if he's that trickster on the playground that just can't help himself. I'm thinking maybe it's an addiction, & the first step Grayson, is admitting you have a problem. We'll all clap for you!
 
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Actually, there was contact on the play and the announcer called it as well.

And go ahead an find us and example of poor Allen being tripped. Double bonus if he whips his head like he was hit by Mike Tyson. Should be easy if he has been the "victim" of about 50 trips.
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(1) The announcer did not say that Grayson tripped the Yale player; nor did anyone at real time even take note of that play at all. The announcer just said he tripped -- i.e, the Yale player lost his balance and fell to the ground. Not that anyone else tripped him; or that what Grayson did was even a foul. If you watched the game you would know that. At different points in both of Duke's games, the announcers also talked about Grayson tripping and losing the ball. Players trip and lose their balance all the time. Again, Grayson stepped in and actually makes an attempted swipe at the ball. The Yale guy tries to make a move to get away from the swipe and the right side of Grayson's body and he goes down. Maybe I'm not seeing it, but I think you'd be hardpressed to find any visual evidence of any contact. And, even if there was theoretical contact, it was in the context of him stepping in to provide help and swipe at the ball -- i.e., nothing more than a foul. If Len Elmore (the biggest whiner about refs on TV) had seen an intentional trip warranting a foul call -- we'd have heard about it.

(2) As somebody else said, I certainly don't even see any contact on that second play. That looked to me like a limited Yale athlete trying to stop on a dime and losing his balance while trying to free himself of a better athlete. Allen's feet look like there are a couple feet away from the guy. Certainly have not seen anything to suggest there was any contact (let alone intentional contact); and clearly the ref right next to the play didn't see it (I know -- I know -- coach K has every ref. on earth in his backpocket).

(3) The "victim" comment was tongue and cheek -- hence the quotes. But, players playing for their lives in the NCAA tourney will fall to the ground in the course of a game when they try to force the issue. All slashers will fall to the ground in the course of the game. Not every fall needs to be treated as if it's the Benghazi investigation. lol.
 
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This is pretty obvious to me. I can see how it would be missed in real time but the slow motion clearly shows the planting of the right foot in the path of the driver. That's a clear foul. Probably nothing more in that play but with the history it is pretty clear someone has taught him that move is a great equalizer when getting beat. It is in his head and becomes second nature, just like many moves in basketball.
 
aah555 said:
You guys are losing it with the Grayson Derangement Syndrome -- and apparently CNNSI is just trying to drive up clicks by playing into that. I usually enjoy the back-and-forth notwithstanding the distinct allegiances. But, common. Not only do both of those plays look completely unintentional, I don't even think there was any contact on that first play. Grayson did exactly what he should have done on that play. He stunted on the driver to stop his penetration. If the driver had better balance / quickness, he'd have stopped, and kicked it out for a 3. But he tried to force his way through traffic and got lucky he didn't turn it over. That was a terrible play by a PG with mediocre athleticism. If the new standard is that we presume an intentional trip every time a driver makes an ill-advised attempt to maneuver through the teeth of the help defense, I'm pretty sure Grayson's been the "victim" of about 50 trips this season -- b/c he gets bodied to the ground all the time on his straightline drives. On that play posted above, the Yale guy wildly drove right into the teeth of multiple Duke guys who were providing help defense against that drive and didn't have the lateral quickness / balance to stop when the defense collapsed on him.

I'm not going to defend that play he made against Louisville. But this other stuff is just irrationale nonsense.
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The one in the lane is unintentional. The next one is without a doubt on purpose. He reaches back and lifts his foot off the ground to trip him. No idea how you could even argue otherwise if you've ever played before. Even if he didn't have a weird obsession with tripping this would without a doubt be intentional. Now, there is a difference between this one and the other two though. This should have been a common foul, which some trips are. Still, it is a trip from a player who knows better and clearly did not learn anything from the talking to K supposedly gave him. If you don't see contact you don't want to. If you slow it down there isn't a question he contacted him as he brought his right foot off the ground. Hit him in the leg and tripped him. Again, not the same as the other two plays earlier in the year that were just dirty. Still a trip though. I find it odd you can look at that second one and still claim otherwise. Of course, many Duke fans think Allen actually deserves more fouls for driving straight into people.
 
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aah555 said:
(1) The announcer did not say that Grayson tripped the Yale player; nor did anyone at real time even take note of that play at all. The announcer just said he tripped -- i.e, the Yale player lost his balance and fell to the ground. Not that anyone else tripped him; or that what Grayson did was even a foul. If you watched the game you would know that. At different points in both of Duke's games, the announcers also talked about Grayson tripping and losing the ball. Players trip and lose their balance all the time. Again, Grayson stepped in and actually makes an attempted swipe at the ball. The Yale guy tries to make a move to get away from the swipe and the right side of Grayson's body and he goes down. Maybe I'm not seeing it, but I think you'd be hardpressed to find any visual evidence of any contact. And, even if there was theoretical contact, it was in the context of him stepping in to provide help and swipe at the ball -- i.e., nothing more than a foul. If Len Elmore (the biggest whiner about refs on TV) had seen an intentional trip warranting a foul call -- we'd have heard about it.

(2) As somebody else said, I certainly don't even see any contact on that second play. That looked to me like a limited Yale athlete trying to stop on a dime and losing his balance while trying to free himself of a better athlete. Allen's feet look like there are a couple feet away from the guy. Certainly have not seen anything to suggest there was any contact (let alone intentional contact); and clearly the ref right next to the play didn't see it (I know -- I know -- coach K has every ref. on earth in his backpocket).

(3) The "victim" comment was tongue and cheek -- hence the quotes. But, players playing for their lives in the NCAA tourney will fall to the ground in the course of a game when they try to force the issue. All slashers will fall to the ground in the course of the game. Not every fall needs to be treated as if it's the Benghazi investigation. lol.
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Blah blah blah. The dude is a compulsive tripper and head whipping, flopping little punk, despite your best Johnny Cochran impersonation.

Just post one clip of poor Grayson being tripped by someone else. Go on. You can do it.
 
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The one in the lane is unintentional. The next one is without a doubt on purpose. He reaches back and lifts his foot off the ground to trip him. No idea how you could even argue otherwise if you've ever played before. Even if he didn't have a weird obsession with tripping this would without a doubt be intentional. Now, there is a difference between this one and the other two though. This should have been a common foul, which some trips are. Still, it is a trip from a player who knows better and clearly did not learn anything from the talking to K supposedly gave him. If you don't see contact you don't want to. If you slow it down there isn't a question he contacted him as he brought his right foot off the ground. Hit him in the leg and tripped him. Again, not the same as the other two plays earlier in the year that were just dirty. Still a trip though. I find it odd you can look at that second one and still claim otherwise. Of course, many Duke fans think Allen actually deserves more fouls for driving straight into people.
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These poor suckers are so brainwashed by K that they actually believe they are the victims in all scenarios. No sense in trying to reason with any of them.
 
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These poor suckers are so brainwashed by K that they actually believe they are the victims in all scenarios. No sense in trying to reason with any of them.
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I like aah though. He is generally pretty reasonable. I'm surprised he can't see it there. It isn't like it is that difficult. Also, it isn't really even all that dirty. Just a common foul. Kid just needs to stop doing it. Obviously, doesn't look like that is going to happen.
 
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aah555 said:
You guys are losing it with the Grayson Derangement Syndrome -- and apparently CNNSI is just trying to drive up clicks by playing into that. I usually enjoy the back-and-forth notwithstanding the distinct allegiances. But, common. Not only do both of those plays look completely unintentional, I don't even think there was any contact on that first play. Grayson did exactly what he should have done on that play. He stunted on the driver to stop his penetration. If the driver had better balance / quickness, he'd have stopped, and kicked it out for a 3. But he tried to force his way through traffic and got lucky he didn't turn it over. That was a terrible play by a PG with mediocre athleticism. If the new standard is that we presume an intentional trip every time a driver makes an ill-advised attempt to maneuver through the teeth of the help defense, I'm pretty sure Grayson's been the "victim" of about 50 trips this season -- b/c he gets bodied to the ground all the time on his straightline drives. On that play posted above, the Yale guy wildly drove right into the teeth of multiple Duke guys who were providing help defense against that drive and didn't have the lateral quickness / balance to stop when the defense collapsed on him.

I'm not going to defend that play he made against Louisville. But this other stuff is just irrationale nonsense.
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That is some major league spew right there
 
Who cares? The best part is going to be seeing them get steamed rolled by Oregon and that will hopefully be the end of him in a turd jersey.
 
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Who cares? The best part is going to be seeing them get steamed rolled by Oregon and that will hopefully be the end of him in a turd jersey.
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St Joseph's gonna beat Oregon, aren't you aware the bracket always opens up for dook, that's why Yale was such an easy upset pick over Baylor. Also why I'm pulling for Kansas & Oklahoma until the Devils are gone. I can easily see dook making the FF, & at that point it's anybody's ball game. Sickening to think about.
 
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