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Did Punkson do it again????????

I like aah though. He is generally pretty reasonable. I'm surprised he can't see it there. It isn't like it is that difficult. Also, it isn't really even all that dirty. Just a common foul. Kid just needs to stop doing it. Obviously, doesn't look like that is going to happen.

Thanks. I genuinely can't really tell what happened there from that camera angle -- but maybe I'm just missing it. Either way, I just don't see much there that would cause me to think it was an intentionally dirty play. At the moment, it seems like twitter / blogosphere has just glued to this stroryline and now hyperscrutinizing standard basketball plays that happen all the time. Kind of like everyone getting up in arms when Allen intentionally fouled Cat Barber to stop a run out -- which is basically what every NBA player is taught to do when you have a defender ahead (i.e., a non-clear path play). Anyways, that's just my perspective on the subject. Clearly, as a white Duke player who already hard a target on his back, he's not going to a get a free pass from the media and a segment of fans if he engages in any kid of dirty play (e.g., the play in the Louisville game).
 
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Thanks. I genuinely can't really tell what happened there from that camera angle -- but maybe I'm just missing it. Either way, I just don't see much there that would cause me to think it was an intentionally dirty play. At the moment, it seems like twitter / blogosphere has just glued to this stroryline and now hyperscrutinizing standard basketball plays that happen all the time. Kind of like everyone getting up in arms when Allen intentionally fouled Cat Barber to stop a run out -- which is basically what every NBA player is taught to do when you have a defender ahead (i.e., a non-clear path play). Anyways, that's just my perspective on the subject. Clearly, as a white Duke player who already hard a target on his back, he's not got a get a pass from the media and a segment of fans for a dirty play in a game (e.g., the Louisville game).

I did not think the play on Barber was that big a deal at all. The overreaction to that play was silly. OTOH, any overreaction is kind of his own fault though because of the Louisville and FSU plays. Still, it was overblown. Even here, while a trip, it is a different situation than those. Those were pretty low IMO. This was just a foul. It is just a foul he should specifically avoid.
 
Clearly, as a white Duke player who already hard a target on his back, he's not going to a get a free pass from the media and a segment of fans if he engages in any kid of dirty play (e.g., the play in the Louisville game).

Has nothing to do with race- Dahntay Jones was much dirtier than Allen.

It's impossible for your twits to not be the victim of something, isn't it?
 
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Here goes dook with the "white guy" hate again. However when black guys act like allen against their team, they quick to label them a "thug". Smh

Yes, but when they say that, it's ok because the black guy once posted on his twitter feed a picture of a rapper who used the word thug in a song. So they clearly aren't being racist- just ask them.

Dookies are nothing but victims with the weight of the world going against them and it is amazing that they are able to play at all. Just ask Coach K.
 
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And, you can bet your ass that Allen REVELS in this kind of publicity! He loves it. That's why dook is hated. They love being hated. We're giving them what they crave.
 
You guys are losing it with the Grayson Derangement Syndrome -- and apparently CNNSI is just trying to drive up clicks by playing into that. I usually enjoy the back-and-forth notwithstanding the distinct allegiances. But, common. Not only do both of those plays look completely unintentional, I don't even think there was any contact on that first play. Grayson did exactly what he should have done on that play. He stunted on the driver to stop his penetration. If the driver had better balance / quickness, he'd have stopped, and kicked it out for a 3. But he tried to force his way through traffic and got lucky he didn't turn it over. That was a terrible play by a PG with mediocre athleticism. If the new standard is that we presume an intentional trip every time a driver makes an ill-advised attempt to maneuver through the teeth of the help defense, I'm pretty sure Grayson's been the "victim" of about 50 trips this season -- b/c he gets bodied to the ground all the time on his straightline drives. On that play posted above, the Yale guy wildly drove right into the teeth of multiple Duke guys who were providing help defense against that drive and didn't have the lateral quickness / balance to stop when the defense collapsed on him.

I'm not going to defend that play he made against Louisville. But this other stuff is just irrationale nonsense.

STFU bye Felicia!

If you don't see it its because you don't want to see it!
 
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Don't worry about it guys, the ACC will take care of it. They plan to announce a five game suspension the day after he announces he's going pro.
 
You guys are losing it with the Grayson Derangement Syndrome -- and apparently CNNSI is just trying to drive up clicks by playing into that. I usually enjoy the back-and-forth notwithstanding the distinct allegiances. But, common. Not only do both of those plays look completely unintentional, I don't even think there was any contact on that first play. Grayson did exactly what he should have done on that play. He stunted on the driver to stop his penetration. If the driver had better balance / quickness, he'd have stopped, and kicked it out for a 3. But he tried to force his way through traffic and got lucky he didn't turn it over. That was a terrible play by a PG with mediocre athleticism. If the new standard is that we presume an intentional trip every time a driver makes an ill-advised attempt to maneuver through the teeth of the help defense, I'm pretty sure Grayson's been the "victim" of about 50 trips this season -- b/c he gets bodied to the ground all the time on his straightline drives. On that play posted above, the Yale guy wildly drove right into the teeth of multiple Duke guys who were providing help defense against that drive and didn't have the lateral quickness / balance to stop when the defense collapsed on him.

I'm not going to defend that play he made against Louisville. But this other stuff is just irrationale nonsense.

Get that B.S out of here
 
One replay look d like he raised his foot as the guy was driving. The other he appear d to to sweep his foot. Neither looked like Allen was making natural basketball movements. Just too much of a coincidence how many of these "inadvertent" plays the kid is involved in since he was called out for the obvious ones earlier. Allen plays dirty. If an opponent who had dreadlocks and tattoos did this to dook the thug label would be all over their site. Guys play with heart and a warrior mentality every game without be involved in crap like this. They can defend all they want but any coach with a hint of integrity would not allow him on the floor. I guess k values his win-loss record more than his character.
 
These look like trips. They simply aren't basketball plays. You see guys bump knees or trip over each other running for a loose ball. These don't fit that bill. Kid is an absolute punk and I believe actually likes the role of Dook villain to the point where he's willing to push the envelope.
 
These look like trips. They simply aren't basketball plays. You see guys bump knees or trip over each other running for a loose ball. These don't fit that bill. Kid is an absolute punk and I believe actually likes the role of Dook villain to the point where he's willing to push the envelope.



Have actually been told that punk is an honored position in which to be included (into)... No kidding but of course no actual quote...
 
As a Duke fan, I am biased--I don't see an intentional trip because I don't want it to be intentional. As Carolina fans, you are biased too. Of course you see an intentional trip, but would you admit that you want it to be intentional?
I am just happy we have another week to talk about Duke. I didn't think we would advance this far. We probably won't win another game but oh well.
 
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Reputation gives any tie to "guilty as charged". That's why reputation is important whether it's fans across the country or the refs. Stay clean in the first place and you won't have to defend yourself.
 
The problem you have with this is that WE are not raising this issue again. SI THE national sports pub brings it up. Look YOUR player, who BY FAR has done more of this type of dirty play than ANYONE else in college ball, has already been
"reprimanded" (LOL) by the ACC. In fact I would appreciate you NAMING the next dirtiest player. I cannot recall any one else doing this ,much less at least three and probably four times this season

BUT you are a cult follower of LTCC and Vader, a believer in a man who is the biggest fraud and phony in all of sports. Go right ahead and continue with your blind allegiance.
 
Reputation gives any tie to "guilty as charged". That's why reputation is important whether it's fans across the country or the refs. Stay clean in the first place and you won't have to defend yourself.
Agreed. Allen doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt on this.

The problem you have with this is that WE are not raising this issue again. SI THE national sports pub brings it up. Look YOUR player, who BY FAR has done more of this type of dirty play than ANYONE else in college ball, has already been
"reprimanded" (LOL) by the ACC. In fact I would appreciate you NAMING the next dirtiest player. I cannot recall any one else doing this ,much less at least three and probably four times this season

BUT you are a cult follower of LTCC and Vader, a believer in a man who is the biggest fraud and phony in all of sports. Go right ahead and continue with your blind allegiance.
Did SI say that Allen intentionally tripped Mason? Has any media outlet said as much? Even if they did, that doesn't tell us whether or not Allen actually did intentionally trip him, unless your point is that all national sports publications (or even just SI) are disinterested, all-discerning, and inherently truthful. I know you don't believe that because of some of the things SI has said about the UNC scandal.

That brings me back to my point, you are not biased when it comes to Duke. Will you admit that? I am not biased about Duke, or Carolina for that matter. That doesn't mean you are wrong. He very well may have tried to intentionally trip Mason in both instances. And I agree with UNC-75 that Allen probably doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt when it comes to tripping.
 
Reputation gives any tie to "guilty as charged". That's why reputation is important whether it's fans across the country or the refs. Stay clean in the first place and you won't have to defend yourself.

Exactly.
 
I would simply ask again..... Has ANYONE else in college basketball done ANYTHING like this????? ONCE ???? ....name them please and the incident involved
 
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To be clear, I'm pretty sure neither Grayson nor anyone associated with Duke is staying up at nights because there is a segment of fans (& online sports media desperate for clicks) that are going to now pounce on every little thing he does -- after he legitimately reacted poorly to some physical play earlier in the year. We have a disagreement about those plays against Yale. But in the end of the day -- this is all noise that doesn't really matter. The kid's an AA on the court, he's an Academic All-ACC off the court, he's never had an issue with the law (which makes this talk about him being "guilty" a little silly), he's going to be a first round pick whenever he declares, and he's a national champion. In the grand scheme of things, while he needs to learn from his mistakes, the positives about this kid far outweigh any perceived negatives.

As for things that are far worse in the past 15 months of college b-ball, off the top of my head, I can think of the Diamond Stone head slam of a Wisconsin player on the hardwood, the Oregon State player intentionally tripping a ref., and Adam Woodbury poking like 3-4 eyes out. I mean -- even involving Grayson Allen -- I think this elbow by a Louisville player was far more dangerous than anything Grayson has done this year.



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This was basically the Singler v. Hansbrough play -- but involving a far more violent swing and post-play behavior suggesting a far greater degree of malicious intent. And I know what you guys all think about that play. And that's just the stuff I am aware of from following Duke closely and casually following college basketball. Yet, everyone is aware of Allen's trip of a Louisville player-- and barely anyone other than Duke fans watching that game have any idea about Allen taking a pretty vicious elbow right in the mouth from that same Louisville team. Certainly there was no movement out there calling for that Louisvillle player to be suspended; or to have his every move on the basketball court analyzed on a frame-by-frame basis for malicious intent. The Louisvillle kid did something wrong. He was called for a flagrant. And everyone moved on. ESPN didn't lead sportscenter with that elbow, didn't have every talking head on TV chime in on the play, and the internet wasn't saturated with feigned outrage about that play. Any discussion of that play basically ended when Grayson finished shooting the flagrant FTs.

I'm also sure there are far more controversial stuff in college b-ball that none of us have even heard about. For instance, I had no idea that Yale's captain had been expelled from school based on a finding of sexual assault until we played them on Saturday; nor, until this morning, did I know that Oregon's athletic department was currently the defendant in a lawsuit accusing the school of sweeping rape allegations under the rug. The notion that Grayson Allen's trip of a player is the most pernicious thing happening in college b-ball these days is a bit much.
 
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To be clear, I'm pretty sure neither Grayson nor anyone associated with Duke is staying up at nights because there is a segment of fans (& online sports media desperate for clicks) that are going to now pounce on every little thing he does -- after he legitimately reacted poorly to some physical play earlier in the year. We have a disagreement about those plays against Yale. But in the end of the day -- this is all noise that doesn't really matter. The kid's an AA on the court, he's an Academic All-ACC off the court, he's never had an issue with the law (which makes this talk about him being "guilty" a little silly), he's going to be a first round pick whenever he declares, and he's a national champion. In the grand scheme of things, while he needs to learn from his mistakes, the positives about this kid far outweigh any perceived negatives.

As for things that are far worse in the past 15 months of college b-ball, off the top of my head, I can think of the Diamond Stone head slam of a Wisconsin player on the hardwood, the Oregon State player intentionally tripping a ref., and Adam Woodbury poking like 3-4 eyes out. I mean -- even involving Grayson Allen -- I think this elbow by a Louisville player was far more dangerous than anything Grayson has done this year.



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This was basically the Singler v. Hansbrough play -- but involving a far more violent swing and post-play behavior suggesting a far greater degree of malicious intent. And I know what you guys all think about that play. And that's just the stuff I am aware of from following Duke closely and casually following college basketball. Yet, everyone is aware of Allen's trip of a Louisville player-- and barely anyone other than Duke fans watching that game have any idea about Allen taking a pretty vicious elbow right in the mouth from that same Louisville team. Certainly there was no movement out there calling for that Louisvillle player to be suspended; or to have his every move on the basketball court analyzed on a frame-by-frame basis for malicious intent. The Louisvillle kid did something wrong. He was called for a flagrant. And everyone moved on. ESPN didn't lead sportscenter with that elbow, didn't have every talking head on TV chime in on the play, and the internet wasn't saturated with feigned outrage about that play. Any discussion of that play basically ended when Grayson finished shooting the flagrant FTs.

I'm also sure there are far more controversial stuff in college b-ball that none of us have even heard about. For instance, I had no idea that Yale's captain had been expelled from school based on a finding of sexual assault until we played them on Saturday; nor, until this morning, did I know that Oregon's athletic department was currently the defendant in a lawsuit accusing the school of sweeping rape allegations under the rug. The notion that Grayson Allen's trip of a player is the most pernicious thing happening in college b-ball these days is a bit much.

Geese. I used the word "guilty" cause he was guilty of tripping which is a dirty and punk move. I did not imply he needed to be arrested, so to bring the law into account is irrational here. Seems as you find a need to defend the indefensible. I'm not saying others have not done things worse or move obvious. Just don't say he did not intent to trip which again is a behavior that should not be tolerated in basketball. To defend his actions is just putting your heart above your head. Greyson is a top player and I believe (as I've said before here) will play and contribute in the NBA. He may be smart and intelligent, he may be a great kid. But he needs to grow up.
 
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Lol. You guys really should look at yourselves in the mirror and think about what you are spending hours debating. Get. A. Life.
 
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Lol. You guys really should look at yourselves in the mirror and think about what you are spending hours debating. Get. A. Life.
Let me see. Member since 2005. First post. Very first post! (at least under this name). Congratulations. Just waiting to find something to comment on all these years when you felt your message to all of us rose to such significance that you felt in over 10 years to make this your first post. Hmmmm. Nice to finally hear from you. Welcome and thanks for contributing. I'm sure I speak for all in urging you to speak up more often.
 
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To be clear, I'm pretty sure neither Grayson nor anyone associated with Duke is staying up at nights because there is a segment of fans (& online sports media desperate for clicks) that are going to now pounce on every little thing he does -- after he legitimately reacted poorly to some physical play earlier in the year. We have a disagreement about those plays against Yale. But in the end of the day -- this is all noise that doesn't really matter. The kid's an AA on the court, he's an Academic All-ACC off the court, he's never had an issue with the law (which makes this talk about him being "guilty" a little silly), he's going to be a first round pick whenever he declares, and he's a national champion. In the grand scheme of things, while he needs to learn from his mistakes, the positives about this kid far outweigh any perceived negatives.

As for things that are far worse in the past 15 months of college b-ball, off the top of my head, I can think of the Diamond Stone head slam of a Wisconsin player on the hardwood, the Oregon State player intentionally tripping a ref., and Adam Woodbury poking like 3-4 eyes out. I mean -- even involving Grayson Allen -- I think this elbow by a Louisville player was far more dangerous than anything Grayson has done this year.



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This was basically the Singler v. Hansbrough play -- but involving a far more violent swing and post-play behavior suggesting a far greater degree of malicious intent. And I know what you guys all think about that play. And that's just the stuff I am aware of from following Duke closely and casually following college basketball. Yet, everyone is aware of Allen's trip of a Louisville player-- and barely anyone other than Duke fans watching that game have any idea about Allen taking a pretty vicious elbow right in the mouth from that same Louisville team. Certainly there was no movement out there calling for that Louisvillle player to be suspended; or to have his every move on the basketball court analyzed on a frame-by-frame basis for malicious intent. The Louisvillle kid did something wrong. He was called for a flagrant. And everyone moved on. ESPN didn't lead sportscenter with that elbow, didn't have every talking head on TV chime in on the play, and the internet wasn't saturated with feigned outrage about that play. Any discussion of that play basically ended when Grayson finished shooting the flagrant FTs.

I'm also sure there are far more controversial stuff in college b-ball that none of us have even heard about. For instance, I had no idea that Yale's captain had been expelled from school based on a finding of sexual assault until we played them on Saturday; nor, until this morning, did I know that Oregon's athletic department was currently the defendant in a lawsuit accusing the school of sweeping rape allegations under the rug. The notion that Grayson Allen's trip of a player is the most pernicious thing happening in college b-ball these days is a bit much.

Stone was also suspended for doing it once.

I agree about that play being like the Singler vs. Hansbrough play, except when that happened Duke fans argued it was completely innocent by Kyle. So it is somewhat hypocritical for them to now argue this was intentional (and it was). Allen hit the other guy in the face first, though it was completely accidental. It should not have been a retaliation situation IMO. The elbow back to Allen was completely uncalled for. I absolutely agree.

The thing about Allen's plays, and reason for the focus, is that they are so uncommon. He is also quite reckless at times, hitting guys in the knees and undercutting them. I can't remember one UNC player ever tripping someone like that and he has done it at least twice. He has also done it at least five times if you include the unintentional ones, all of them but one a little out of the ordinary. If you remember, there were tripping incidents earlier this year and a guys were suspended 3 or 4 games I think (as they should have been since one came off the bench and one was on an official). So the reason it is such a big deal is because it is a trip, which is just kind of one of those things that as a basketball player you don't do. It doesn't mean an elbow isn't just as bad or dangerous. Elbows happen at times though. Trips just do not. It is also focused on because his coach really didn't do anything about it, nothing tangible at least. There were really no real consequences. The fact this coach is one of the greatest of all time and so well respected only exacerbates the issues. Even some of his ex players were disappointed in the way it was handled. Again, the focus is because he is tripping people on purpose. It is just a very weird thing that people just do not do. I also think you are underestimating how dangerous a trip can be. So far the players tripped have just been lucky.
 
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Yet, everyone is aware of Allen's trip of a Louisville player-- and barely anyone other than Duke fans watching that game have any idea about Allen taking a pretty vicious elbow right in the mouth from that same Louisville team. Certainly there was no movement out there calling for that Louisvillle player to be suspended; or to have his every move on the basketball court analyzed on a frame-by-frame basis for malicious intent. The Louisvillle kid did something wrong. He was called for a flagrant. And everyone moved on.

... nor, until this morning, did I know that Oregon's athletic department was currently the defendant in a lawsuit accusing the school of sweeping rape allegations under the rug. The notion that Grayson Allen's trip of a player is the most pernicious thing happening in college b-ball these days is a bit much.

How many OTHER times did the Louisville player throw that elbow? (And as far as the frame-by-frame analysis it looks like Allen throws the first elbow about 2 seconds in). The media would probably move on if Allen did not continue to be involved in these type plays every game. It aint like they are rehashing an incident from January, new ones keep occurring.

As for Oregon, yeah it is extremely disturbing that a major college program would try to sweep any allegations under the rug and cover them up, whether they are NCAA violations or criminal matters.
 
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To be clear, I'm pretty sure neither Grayson nor anyone associated with Duke is staying up at nights because there is a segment of fans (& online sports media desperate for clicks) that are going to now pounce on every little thing he does -- after he legitimately reacted poorly to some physical play earlier in the year. We have a disagreement about those plays against Yale. But in the end of the day -- this is all noise that doesn't really matter. The kid's an AA on the court, he's an Academic All-ACC off the court, he's never had an issue with the law (which makes this talk about him being "guilty" a little silly), he's going to be a first round pick whenever he declares, and he's a national champion. In the grand scheme of things, while he needs to learn from his mistakes, the positives about this kid far outweigh any perceived negatives.

As for things that are far worse in the past 15 months of college b-ball, off the top of my head, I can think of the Diamond Stone head slam of a Wisconsin player on the hardwood, the Oregon State player intentionally tripping a ref., and Adam Woodbury poking like 3-4 eyes out. I mean -- even involving Grayson Allen -- I think this elbow by a Louisville player was far more dangerous than anything Grayson has done this year.



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This was basically the Singler v. Hansbrough play -- but involving a far more violent swing and post-play behavior suggesting a far greater degree of malicious intent. And I know what you guys all think about that play. And that's just the stuff I am aware of from following Duke closely and casually following college basketball. Yet, everyone is aware of Allen's trip of a Louisville player-- and barely anyone other than Duke fans watching that game have any idea about Allen taking a pretty vicious elbow right in the mouth from that same Louisville team. Certainly there was no movement out there calling for that Louisvillle player to be suspended; or to have his every move on the basketball court analyzed on a frame-by-frame basis for malicious intent. The Louisvillle kid did something wrong. He was called for a flagrant. And everyone moved on. ESPN didn't lead sportscenter with that elbow, didn't have every talking head on TV chime in on the play, and the internet wasn't saturated with feigned outrage about that play. Any discussion of that play basically ended when Grayson finished shooting the flagrant FTs.

I'm also sure there are far more controversial stuff in college b-ball that none of us have even heard about. For instance, I had no idea that Yale's captain had been expelled from school based on a finding of sexual assault until we played them on Saturday; nor, until this morning, did I know that Oregon's athletic department was currently the defendant in a lawsuit accusing the school of sweeping rape allegations under the rug. The notion that Grayson Allen's trip of a player is the most pernicious thing happening in college b-ball these days is a bit much.

Holy moly. Take it easy. Your dude trips people on purpose. There doesn't need to be a dissertation on it.
 
To be clear, I'm pretty sure neither Grayson nor anyone associated with Duke is staying up at nights because there is a segment of fans (& online sports media desperate for clicks) that are going to now pounce on every little thing he does -- after he legitimately reacted poorly to some physical play earlier in the year. We have a disagreement about those plays against Yale. But in the end of the day -- this is all noise that doesn't really matter. The kid's an AA on the court, he's an Academic All-ACC off the court, he's never had an issue with the law (which makes this talk about him being "guilty" a little silly), he's going to be a first round pick whenever he declares, and he's a national champion. In the grand scheme of things, while he needs to learn from his mistakes, the positives about this kid far outweigh any perceived negatives.

As for things that are far worse in the past 15 months of college b-ball, off the top of my head, I can think of the Diamond Stone head slam of a Wisconsin player on the hardwood, the Oregon State player intentionally tripping a ref., and Adam Woodbury poking like 3-4 eyes out. I mean -- even involving Grayson Allen -- I think this elbow by a Louisville player was far more dangerous than anything Grayson has done this year.



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This was basically the Singler v. Hansbrough play -- but involving a far more violent swing and post-play behavior suggesting a far greater degree of malicious intent. And I know what you guys all think about that play. And that's just the stuff I am aware of from following Duke closely and casually following college basketball. Yet, everyone is aware of Allen's trip of a Louisville player-- and barely anyone other than Duke fans watching that game have any idea about Allen taking a pretty vicious elbow right in the mouth from that same Louisville team. Certainly there was no movement out there calling for that Louisvillle player to be suspended; or to have his every move on the basketball court analyzed on a frame-by-frame basis for malicious intent. The Louisvillle kid did something wrong. He was called for a flagrant. And everyone moved on. ESPN didn't lead sportscenter with that elbow, didn't have every talking head on TV chime in on the play, and the internet wasn't saturated with feigned outrage about that play. Any discussion of that play basically ended when Grayson finished shooting the flagrant FTs.

I'm also sure there are far more controversial stuff in college b-ball that none of us have even heard about. For instance, I had no idea that Yale's captain had been expelled from school based on a finding of sexual assault until we played them on Saturday; nor, until this morning, did I know that Oregon's athletic department was currently the defendant in a lawsuit accusing the school of sweeping rape allegations under the rug. The notion that Grayson Allen's trip of a player is the most pernicious thing happening in college b-ball these days is a bit much.

Haha - it's always a good feeling when I realize I'm not biggest moron on the internet
 
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I do disagree with the 'response' to physical play. Allen creates the physical play. It is part of who he is. It isn't fair to then be critical of the physical play that exists in large part because of the way he plays.
 
I do disagree with the 'response' to physical play. Allen creates the physical play. It is part of who he is. It isn't fair to then be critical of the physical play that exists in large part because of the way he plays.

Are you suggesting a single standard be used in analyzing college teams? You realize that k and dook will then be subject to the same criticisms that others face
 
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Here's the deal that our neighborhood Duke lurkers can't wrap their stubby little arms around:

UNC fans/alums don't deny that Hansbrough got away with walks and contact, that Zeller flopped, that Dean whined, that Roy pretends to be "aw shucks" when he really is vindictive as hell, so on and so forth. And if we had actually had a dirty player, we would own that too.

Duke fans (I won't mention alums here because 99% of Duke fans couldn't find Hansbrough Indoor under penalty of death even while using all available GPS gizmos) deny that their guys flop, deny that they get all the calls and deny that K works the refs like Ron Jeremy in his prime and have never had a dirty player in the history of western civilization. And that's the worst part- not one other top team has rolled out as many dirty, punk-ass dickheaded jackasses as you have since the 1980s Detroit Pistons, but you jacklegs act like your team should be compared to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. Just stop embarrassing yourselves and own who you are.

It is precisely what makes you asshats so hateable. Be who you are instead of trying to make like you are a team of orphans coached by Mother Teresa. Your team wins, by and large. Just quit pretending like you didn't sell your soul to Satan in order to procure those wins.
 
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Here's the deal that our neighborhood Duke lurkers can't wrap their stubby little arms around:

UNC fans/alums don't deny that Hansbrough got away with walks and contact, that Zeller flopped, that Dean whined, that Roy pretends to be "aw shucks" when he really is vindictive as hell, so on and so forth. And if we had actually had a dirty player, we would own that too.

Duke fans (I won't mention alums here because 99% of Duke fans couldn't find Hansbrough Indoor under penalty of death even while using all available GPS gizmos) deny that their guys flop, deny that they get all the calls and deny that K works the refs like Ron Jeremy in his prime and have never had a dirty player in the history of western civilization. And that's the worst part- not one other top team has rolled out as many dirty, punk-ass dickheaded jackasses as you have since the 1980s Detroit Pistons, but you jacklegs act like your team should be compared to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. Just stop embarrassing yourselves and own who you are.

It is precisely what makes you asshats so hateable. Be who you are instead of trying to make like you are a team of orphans coached by Mother Teresa. Your team wins, by and large. Just quit pretending like you didn't sell your soul to Satan in order to procure those wins.
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Here's the deal that our neighborhood Duke lurkers can't wrap their stubby little arms around:

UNC fans/alums don't deny that Hansbrough got away with walks and contact, that Zeller flopped, that Dean whined, that Roy pretends to be "aw shucks" when he really is vindictive as hell, so on and so forth. And if we had actually had a dirty player, we would own that too.

Duke fans (I won't mention alums here because 99% of Duke fans couldn't find Hansbrough Indoor under penalty of death even while using all available GPS gizmos) deny that their guys flop, deny that they get all the calls and deny that K works the refs like Ron Jeremy in his prime and have never had a dirty player in the history of western civilization. And that's the worst part- not one other top team has rolled out as many dirty, punk-ass dickheaded jackasses as you have since the 1980s Detroit Pistons, but you jacklegs act like your team should be compared to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. Just stop embarrassing yourselves and own who you are.

It is precisely what makes you asshats so hateable. Be who you are instead of trying to make like you are a team of orphans coached by Mother Teresa. Your team wins, by and large. Just quit pretending like you didn't sell your soul to Satan in order to procure those wins.
I wish I could fit this $#!+ on a t shirt... Well done sir.
 
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