Why do you assume it's only the libs who have a problem with this guy getting murdered or that all libs support looting?
I have friends on both sides who feel differently about all of it. Stop making this red vs. blue, or are you incapable of that?
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Why do you assume it's only the libs who have a problem with this guy getting murdered or that all libs support looting?
I have friends on both sides who feel differently about all of it. Stop making this red vs. blue, or are you incapable of that?
There are levels to oxygen deprivation and being choked though. It's possible he was slowly asphyxiating but had enough air to speak. Also, it's possible that the knee on his neck was working the way a blood choke works in jiu-jitsu. The pressure could have prevented blood flow to his brain which means his brain is still getting starved of oxygen. This is pure speculation. I'm neither a black belt nor a medical expert. But I think its fair to say that the fact that he was able to speak doesn't mean he wasn't being choked.
If you see a video of a black man having a knee pressed into his neck for eight minutes by a cop, and your reaction is that he probably died from a drug overdose, then you're a racist piece of sh*t.
I mean, you're just wrong. I have two very conservative people who say "listen, I get it." I've got one very liberal friend who thinks the looters should all be in jail.
I'm a moderate conservative and I'm very against the looting but also feel the cop should be charged with manslaughter.
Again, people are all over the place on this. Are you that simple minded that you can't comprehend the world can have many opinions on this no matter what party you affiliate with?
The autopsy acknowledges "intoxicants" as potentially contributing to his death. This was done by a trained medical professional, not a poster on the internet.
Why are you denying science?
Empathy =/= Approval
I can get why they riot and loot. I still don't think its acceptable behavior.
But there are people who think this sort of behavior is acceptable. They are libs (or even further left). I want their opinion. What's the exchange rate of looted square miles per dead black people in police custody. It's a brave new world, and their morals seemingly govern public discourse. So lets hammer these issues out.
He was clearly being "choked" or restrained by his neck. I was just noticing the ability to speak and saying "I can't breathe." Could have been sort of an instinctive thing to say. There's no need to subdue a suspect like that.
You saw a man with a knee placed on his neck for eight minutes and assumed he died of a drug overdose before the autopsy even came out. You made that assumption because you're a racist POS.
Why don't you want a conservative's opinion who think this type of behavior is acceptable?
So wait, I'm racist because I'm correct? I'm going to need some more nuanced emojis to respond to that one.
I think thats exactly it. You ever been choked or held underwater? That kind of panic cannot be compared to anything else I've ever experienced. It's terrifying. Undoubtedly he was in full on survival mode and trying anything he possibly could to not get murdered. Crying out for help was all he had left. That's no way for any human being to spend their last moments.
If you watched that video and still think he died of a drug overdose, then you're not just a racist POS, you're also an idiot. There's no toxicology report to even confirm he had any drugs in his system, much less enough to contribute to his death.
This is why we can't move forward as a society. There's clear footage of a cop murdering a man in broad daylight, and the backwards f*ckwits assume its an OD, because the guy is black.
GFY
No one here does. But you seem more concerned with looting than a man being killed for no justifiable reason.
You can be outraged at both. I know because I am. You can also think the cop was just a terrible cop who used excessive force. You don’t have to think he did it because he hates black people. And you don’t have to think I’m a racist because I don’t necessarily see the race angle here. Why can’t it just be a bad cop killed a guy?
The world is indeed upside down when Lil Wayne is the voice of reason.
https://www.xxlmag.com/news/2020/05/lil-wayne-george-floyd-death/
https://www.xxlmag.com/news/2020/05/lil-wayne-george-floyd-death/
I said above I’m against it but that’s my bad for assuming you can read.
I also think this is more about a terribly shitty cop than a racist. Probably a mix of both but I think it’s probably 75/25 shitty cop vs racist.
In this case, I don’t see the race angle either unlike in Georgia which harkened back to more dangerous times.
I don’t think the white cop was a racist and sought to end the life of a man because he was black. I do think, however, it speaks to the level of distrust that the black community has for the police and it’s not hard to understand why given incidents like this one. The focus should be community outreach and better policing.
You have to feel bad for the cop. He just happened to have his knee on the guys neck at the exact same moment the drugs and heart disease killed him. Just really bad luck for the cop.
I found the TMZ video. It looks bad. I had only seen the first few seconds when he was saying that he could not breathe. He obviously could breathe to speak so clearly. But no excuse for the final four minutes
So evidently the guy died of a heart attack while three cops kneeled on him for 8 minutes, one on his neck, and ignored his pleas of not being able to breathe. So the cops are murderers for ignoring his pleas of not being able to breathe from a heart attack instead of ignoring his pleas of not being able to breathe from asphyxiation. I stand corrected.
Autopsy results are the lead story on my Fox News app but it’s nowhere to be mentioned at all on the CNN app Unless it’s imbedded in a story I haven’t read
I have a bad feeling about all of this. Riots and protests are going to be the norm for a while... all over the country, it seems.
It will eventually die down. Nothing in this country was ever solved by rioting.
My concern is that the government under Trump won’t take this seriously. There is a clear need for police reform, but I doubt the administration will do much if anything.
Not sure how much the fed can do in regards to state/local police. That's going to have to happen at the state level.
I dunno if the president has much control over local and state law enforcement.
Nothing is solved by rioting, that's true.
Is there, though? Police probably have millions (billions?) of interactions with the general public every year. An incredibly tiny percentage of those interactions end in violence.
I'd suggest you all read https://www.propublica.org/article/the-tragedy-of-baltimore as warning to what can happen when police become radically disempowered.
I shall read it momentarily. Minneapolis is a nice city. Baltimore is scary. I was in the wrong neighborhood in Baltimore. I ran every red light praying to be escorted out by the police
