Guns n Roses reunion thread

[gteeitup]

why?

axl sucks now, he's even worse now than in the mid 90's...adler has had a stroke and izzy might still be drinking more than some of you.

i'm watching this concert from last year? or two years ago and axl can't even sing, he talking through songs...word is they've signed on to cochella and they are "getting along"...other than slash playing, what's the point, other than embarrassing themselves?...myles kennedy doesn't have the name of axl, but he's a better singer...slash should stick wo that, seriously...it's not like he needs the cash.

axl cancelled kimmel tonight, of course...sounds like more drama to me.

people of ootb, iyo, is this a good or bad thing?

 

[toophly1124]

Love GnR!! Axl's always been a prima donna don't expect that to change ... They're no where close to what they once were apparently.. Their last cd I waited .. And waited.. And waited .. Waited some more and was highly disappointed with the finished result ... But to me they're so legendary i feel it's a good thing ... The uproar (in a good way) it's already caused is amazing ... People going crazy for this ... If I had the time I'd definitely go watch

 

[UNC71-00]

Since this appears to be a thread for people who like GnR, i shall refrain from comment.

 

[JuleZ '02 HEEL]

 

[toophly1124]

Since this appears to be a thread for people who like GnR, i shall refrain from comment.

Cmon man say your peace! I'm the one who says I liked them and I hear all the time with "how they suck" or whatever ..no hard feelings here!

 

[BeezerHeel]

The people want it; they have spoken. Let there be a Reunion Tour

 

[strummingram]

I recently watched the tail-end of The Who in Hyde Park. I think it was performed last year. Anyway, I saw about the last 4 songs. Well, I got through the last 3 1/2. I couldn't bear to see them do the yell at the end of Won't Get Fooled Again. It was embarrassing to watch. I will say that Daltry's voice stood-up pretty well. Townshend, at the pause in Baba O'Riley, sounded like the weakest karaoke attempt you've ever heard. It was just sad. What's worse, 2 of the people who made the band great are long dead! STOP IT!

Same with Lynyrd Skynyrd. They became their own tribute band. Never contributing new music. Just up there milking their once-brazen image and edge.

The list is endless, really. The people- mostly baby boomers- have ruined Rock N Roll.

GnR were bad-asses that kicked-up the dust and made mayhem and edgy music... in their youth. It's there for posterity to be enjoyed and relived in your own memory from that time, for you, and them! When they belittle themselves and agree to duct-tape-together some barely-recognizable version of what was once cool, they not only make fools of themselves, but they tarnish and dull the creative appeal of what made their contributions great.

I guess if people wanna pay and can find some enjoyment from these decaying acts, go for it. Some acts and artists have music and shows that are a bit more neutral and timeless. They were never really aimed at the "anger of youth" to begin with. GnR was aimed at that. Now it just looks pathetic. It's sorta like movie sequels. Each one sucks worse than the one before it.

 

[heelmanwilm]

Since this appears to be a thread for people who like GnR, i shall refrain from comment.

I shall join u in refraint. Hows that apple watch?

 

[Heels in Space]

I recently watched the tail-end of The Who in Hyde Park. I think it was performed last year. Anyway, I saw about the last 4 songs. Well, I got through the last 3 1/2. I couldn't bear to see them do the yell at the end of Won't Get Fooled Again. It was embarrassing to watch. I will say that Daltry's voice stood-up pretty well. Townshend, at the pause in Baba O'Riley, sounded like the weakest karaoke attempt you've ever heard. It was just sad. What's worse, 2 of the people who made the band great are long dead! STOP IT!

Same with Lynyrd Skynyrd. They became their own tribute band. Never contributing new music. Just up there milking their once-brazen image and edge.

The list is endless, really. The people- mostly baby boomers- have ruined Rock N Roll.

GnR were bad-asses that kicked-up the dust and made mayhem and edgy music... in their youth. It's there for posterity to be enjoyed and relived in your own memory from that time, for you, and them! When they belittle themselves and agree to duct-tape-together some barely-recognizable version of what was once cool, they not only make fools of themselves, but they tarnish and dull the creative appeal of what made their contributions great.

I guess if people wanna pay and can find some enjoyment from these decaying acts, go for it. Some acts and artists have music and shows that are a bit more neutral and timeless. They were never really aimed at the "anger of youth" to begin with. GnR was aimed at that. Now it just looks pathetic. It's sorta like movie sequels. Each one sucks worse than the one before it.

I agree with this sentiment for the most part. That is, I agree that reunion shows 30 years after a band's heyday will never recapture the original magic or intensity. But having said that, I've enjoyed several reunion shows in recent years, even though I fully recognized that I was seeing a pale imitation of the original.

For instance, I had a blast at the recent Replacements reunion show. They're one of my favorites, but I never got to see them in their prime. So even though it was only two original members, it was great getting to hear Westerberg sing all those songs. If there's a market for it, by all means do it. Bands don't owe their fans anything. And just because it's not as good as it was doesn't mean lots of people won't still enjoy it. And rock & roll has not been ruined. It's still thriving in clubs and basements just like it always has. Half of the Who butchering Pinball Wizard won't change that. If people want to go see G n' R now, go for it. Get drunk; have fun. I won't be there, but them playing a watered-down version of You're Crazy now won't make the Appetite version any less badass.

 

[BeezerHeel]

I recently watched the tail-end of The Who in Hyde Park. I think it was performed last year. Anyway, I saw about the last 4 songs. Well, I got through the last 3 1/2. I couldn't bear to see them do the yell at the end of Won't Get Fooled Again. It was embarrassing to watch. I will say that Daltry's voice stood-up pretty well. Townshend, at the pause in Baba O'Riley, sounded like the weakest karaoke attempt you've ever heard. It was just sad. What's worse, 2 of the people who made the band great are long dead! STOP IT!

Same with Lynyrd Skynyrd. They became their own tribute band. Never contributing new music. Just up there milking their once-brazen image and edge.

The list is endless, really. The people- mostly baby boomers- have ruined Rock N Roll.

GnR were bad-asses that kicked-up the dust and made mayhem and edgy music... in their youth. It's there for posterity to be enjoyed and relived in your own memory from that time, for you, and them! When they belittle themselves and agree to duct-tape-together some barely-recognizable version of what was once cool, they not only make fools of themselves, but they tarnish and dull the creative appeal of what made their contributions great.

I guess if people wanna pay and can find some enjoyment from these decaying acts, go for it. Some acts and artists have music and shows that are a bit more neutral and timeless. They were never really aimed at the "anger of youth" to begin with. GnR was aimed at that. Now it just looks pathetic. It's sorta like movie sequels. Each one sucks worse than the one before it.

Well written and said, but GnR and The Who come from different generations thusly not nearly as old. Most everyone who will attend this Show knows this ain't the spring of 1988.

 

[strummingram]

I agree with this sentiment for the most part. That is, I agree that reunion shows 30 years after a band's heyday will never recapture the original magic or intensity. But having said that, I've enjoyed several reunion shows in recent years, even though I fully recognized that I was seeing a pale imitation of the original.

For instance, I had a blast at the recent Replacements reunion show. They're one of my favorites, but I never got to see them in their prime. So even though it was only two original members, it was great getting to hear Westerberg sing all those songs. If there's a market for it, by all means do it. Bands don't owe their fans anything. And just because it's not as good as it was doesn't mean lots of people won't still enjoy it. And rock & roll has not been ruined. It's still thriving in clubs and basements just like it always has. Half of the Who butchering Pinball Wizard won't change that. If people want to go see G n' R now, go for it. Get drunk; have fun. I won't be there, but them playing a watered-down version of You're Crazy now won't make the Appetite version any less badass.

I think some of it has to do with your exposure to the band. When I first saw the Rolling Stones and That Allman Brothers Band, they were WAY past their youthful prime. I saw the Stones as a kid in Hampton, VA in 1981, the Tattoo You Tour. Now, by many peoples' measure, they were "old farts" by then. But, they were not yet 40 and actually young by today's standard! Then, I first got to see the ABB after Warren Haynes had just joined them. It was a great line-up, but it wasn't the original line-up. I have a close friend who is about 12 years older than me. He saw the Stones with Mick Taylor and he saw the ABB with Duane and Berry Oakley. He wouldn't dream of seeing them now. To him, it would taint the original experience.

I know a handful of folks who went to London to see the Cream Reunion. Now, Cream was a band who's music and image was less "youth-oriented", for lack of a better term. The Stones, Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, The Who, and bands from later generations, were bands that thrived on youthful appeal and resisting the older generation. That's the part of Rock n Roll that I think has been compromised. HOWEVER, I have seen many a young kid go and see these aged bands and it became "real" for them, too. So, while I don't share the enthusiasm of those who are my age and older, to go and experience the bands of their youth... I will concede this much:



Watching clips like this is so much more invigorating to me. The only down side of this particular Old Grey Whistle Test clip is they aren't actually playing the music. The vocals are live, however.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Bands don't owe their fans anything. .

Disagree. They'd be "jamming" in their garage if not for their fans so I'd say they owe them something.

My overall opinion is that I usually won't watch a reunion tour simply because I want to remember my favorite bands as they were when they became one of my favorite bands. I would hate for my lasting memory of said band to be them butchering a song.

But I will add that it also depends on the band. Pink Floyd at 65 years old is still good. Red Hot Chillipeppers at 65, not so much. GNR is more the latter.

 

[Heels in Space]

Disagree. They'd be "jamming" in their garage if not for their fans so I'd say they owe them something.

To be sure, fans are owed what they pay for. I don't mean a band can charge $50 for a ticket and then fart onstage (though certain fanbases totally deserve this). I just mean a lot of "old school" fans feel betrayed by what bands do later in their careers. But I don't think bands owe their fans any obligation to stick with any particular sound, to retire at any particular point, or to make any other artistic or career choices that the fans may want. Bands (and artists generally) should do what they want to do, and fans can either buy it or not.

 

[coryfly]

I think it will be good for some fans. Some people really connect with the bands they like and hate that there is strife. It hampers their memories maybe?? Me, I get it. Rockers are different. Many of them are jerks. Most of them are pretentious. Break ups happen. I love GnR and hope this doesn't suck but I have a feeling it will. Slash will still be great.

I heard Adler wasn't down. Is that not right?

 

[gteeitup]

imo, keep the illusion sleeping, don't feed it.

when van halen came back, i thought it was a mistake...but that music was a completly different motivation than gnr...i still think van halen could write and perform stuff, not gnr, those dudes are fried, minus slash.